Luxury Live Outfits and Frig 2.0

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:01:12 Hello and welcome to The Luxury Podcast. My name's Jonathan Vernon-Smith, and with me is William Hanson. This is the podcast that helps you live a more luxury life.

William Hanson 0:01:22 Hello, Jonathan and I are here to help you create the everyday moments of luxury that make life worth living. Whatever your budget.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:01:28 So, welcome to another bonus episode of The Luxury Podcast, where William and I will trade tips and stories from our own luxury lifestyles, as well as delving into our lovely great big male sacks. So, William, how's your week been?

William Hanson 0:01:41 It's been all right, thank you. How's yours been?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:01:43 It's been okay.

William Hanson 0:01:44 I have got so much to talk to you about.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:01:46 Ditto!

William Hanson 0:01:47 I literally think this might be an hour-long episode because— Wow. Oh my gosh, so much. Before we talk about all of this, we should say this is an exciting episode, not only because we are free of that plastic tat we were wearing yesterday for our Halloween episode.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:02:02 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:02:03 But because through some staffing anomaly, we are produced today by the man, the myth, the legend that is Rodrigo.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:02:24 Hola. It's a Rodrigo special.

William Hanson 0:02:26 Hello.

Rodrigo 0:02:26 Hello.

William Hanson 0:02:27 And you've been given a microphone.

Rodrigo 0:02:29 Yeah, I have a fancy microphone right here on my desk.

William Hanson 0:02:33 Now, we have been talking a while, we have been talking for a while about doing a special Meet Rodrigo episode for our Luxury Members Club. We might, probably, I would hope, Rodrigo, if you're up for it, we'll do that another time.

Rodrigo 0:02:45 Yeah, of course.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:02:46 We want to find out about We want to probe you, Rodrigo.

William Hanson 0:02:51 We want to find out about the man, the myths, the moths.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:02:54 Oh yes. No moths in there today, Rodrigo.

Rodrigo 0:02:57 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:02:58 No? Good. Okay, well, I'm pleased we've established that.

William Hanson 0:03:02 How are you finding producing us so far?

Rodrigo 0:03:04 Lovely. Really fun. Even though we just started.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:09 Exactly. It could all go horribly wrong from here.

William Hanson 0:03:12 It could. Where do we start?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:15 I don't know.

William Hanson 0:03:16 Where do we start?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:17 Anything on your mind? Anything on your mind you want to get off?

William Hanson 0:03:20 Shawn Mendes?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:31 Easy.

William Hanson 0:03:34 Shall we start with the weekend?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:35 Yeah, let's start with the weekend, yeah.

William Hanson 0:03:37 Why? Is there anything I'm meant to be getting off?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:39 No. No, no, no. No, no, no, not at all. No, I'm just looking— Anything on your mind? I'm looking down at the list of things you've written to discuss.

William Hanson 0:03:46 Yeah, I mean, and then I thought of a gazillion other things as well. Oh, okay. We'll start with this weekend.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:51 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:03:51 Because at time of recording, it's the second intergenerational.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:03:56 It is absolutely the second intergenerational. And I've got good news, and I've got bad news. And I'm gonna tell you now.

William Hanson 0:04:04 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:04 I'm gonna tell you the bad news.

William Hanson 0:04:06 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:06 I am. No, I'll tell you the good news first.

William Hanson 0:04:08 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:09 Guess what I've ordered this week?

William Hanson 0:04:11 A picanha?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:12 A couple of picanhas. 2 picanhas.

William Hanson 0:04:13 Good.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:14 I went down my butcher, and, uh, my butcher and his father were there.

William Hanson 0:04:19 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:20 And I said, I am— I need a couple of picanhas. They got no idea what that was.

William Hanson 0:04:25 What? They call themselves a butcher.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:27 No, well, it's a rump cap.

William Hanson 0:04:29 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:29 In the UK, we call it a rump cap.

William Hanson 0:04:32 Right.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:32 So I said, I need a couple of rump caps, your finest, please.

William Hanson 0:04:36 And then they knew what you were talking about.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:37 They knew what I was talking about. Although they did warn me that their current rump caps are not aged to the extent that they would normally like them to be. I said, well, is there any alternative to that? They said, not really. It is what it is.

William Hanson 0:04:53 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:53 So, I'm afraid our rump caps—

William Hanson 0:04:55 Is that the bad news?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:04:56 Have only been aged for 14 days.

William Hanson 0:04:59 What would they normally be aged for?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:00 Oh, 28. But I think it will still be fine, because on the Kamado, I hope, unless I completely ruin it, which is—

William Hanson 0:05:11 Are there good delivery options around here?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:13 Which is potentially an issue. Don't let me drink too much, will you? You know what I'm like.

William Hanson 0:05:19 Drink once you've served your picanhas.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:22 If I am sloshed trying to cook those picanhas, it's all going to go pear-shaped.

William Hanson 0:05:26 At least, yeah, start your drinking before you get the roulade out the freezer.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:31 Right. So, I'm going to do a couple of picanhas. They're ordered. I'm collecting them from the butcher on Saturday.

William Hanson 0:05:37 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:38 So, they're ready to go on.

William Hanson 0:05:39 So, the bad news is it's not aged well?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:05:41 No, the bad news is Barb's Baps won't be there. I messaged Barb this week, and I said, Barb, I've got William and the gang coming, and I need a couple of your baps. And she said, I'm sorry, this is my no-bake week.

William Hanson 0:06:00 Who has a no-bake week when they run a bap supply?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:05 She's got a no— I said— so I then messaged, I said—

William Hanson 0:06:09 There better be a good reason.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:10 I said, William will be devastated.

William Hanson 0:06:12 Livid.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:13 Just no response. Yep.

William Hanson 0:06:18 Well, I'm gonna bring some from Gayle's.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:20 So, I don't quite know, what do we do? Because I was planning on a Camembert starter. I was going to bake a Camembert into it.

William Hanson 0:06:28 I don't even know if I can tell the rest of them.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:30 I know. But what can I do?

William Hanson 0:06:32 Should we look at new dates?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:33 What? Work it around Barb's baps?

William Hanson 0:06:38 Could she not— I think that is Barb's fault, because she should have let you know well in advance. If you're a regular customer, when is a no-bake week?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:47 Right. Shall I phone her?

William Hanson 0:06:51 Do you want to phone her now?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:52 Shall I try? Shall I see if she answers?

William Hanson 0:06:54 Can we not tempt her? Because you pay her for her bakes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:06:57 I was going to say, how much could we offer her to bake?

William Hanson 0:07:01 I'm going to write— Rodrigo, please, can I have a pen?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:04 Are we gonna— are we gonna start bidding? I'm gonna write down a figure.

William Hanson 0:07:06 What does a barbed bap normally cost? And how many do you think we need?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:11 2.

William Hanson 0:07:12 Okay, I will offer her per bap, that.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:16 Are you joking?

William Hanson 0:07:18 Or that can go to charity.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:19 Hang on, let me just write. I don't know if she's gonna answer, because she'll know what I'm phoning her about.

Speaker H 0:07:25 Calls to this number are not being connected.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:28 Oh, what?

William Hanson 0:07:29 She's blocked your number.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:30 She has blocked me. Hang on, hang on, hang on a minute. Hang on, that can't be right. Blocked your number? Hang on, that can't be right.

William Hanson 0:07:37 Don't say I'm here.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:37 So what?

William Hanson 0:07:39 Just talk to her.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:40 No, I've got to tell her we're doing the podcast. Oh, I can't not tell her.

William Hanson 0:07:44 She's screening your call.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:07:47 She's screening me.

Speaker I 0:07:48 Your call has been forwarded to voicemail. The person you're trying to reach is not available. Please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang up.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:08:01 Hi, Barb. Uh, it's Jonathan. We are just in the middle of recording the podcast, and I've just broken the news to William about Saturday. Yeah. Uh, it hasn't gone down well, and he does actually have quite an impressive offer that we'd like to put to you. Um, could you give me a call back? I'd really appreciate it. You've got my number. Thank you. Bye-bye.

William Hanson 0:08:26 Now you leave that open, and she might phone.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:08:29 I'm gonna leave it open.

William Hanson 0:08:30 Or she might potentially phone next week. But either way, leave it up.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:08:41 Yeah, but next week you're not paying her that much, are you?

William Hanson 0:08:43 No. If she phones next week, that goes down by half.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:08:46 Okay. Well—

William Hanson 0:08:48 At least she hasn't blocked your number. I mean, that would've been hilarious.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:08:53 She literally got rid of me. So, as things stand, where are we going to get sourdough? Where does one get it?

William Hanson 0:09:02 A supermarket. A baker's.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:04 Right.

William Hanson 0:09:05 How about that one near Harpenden station?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:07 Simmons?

William Hanson 0:09:08 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:08 Oh, I could try there.

William Hanson 0:09:10 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:11 Yeah, I could try there.

William Hanson 0:09:12 I used to go and get stuff from Simmons when I was visiting you, if I was early.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:15 Did you?

William Hanson 0:09:16 Yeah, or if I was driving.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:17 Look at you, supporting a Hertfordshire business. Nice.

William Hanson 0:09:21 Oh, I thought that was water. That's not water, is it?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:23 Is it gin?

William Hanson 0:09:24 Yeah, I gulped it a bit quickly.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:25 Lovely. Well, so that's the bad news, but I'm so looking forward to our soirée.

William Hanson 0:09:31 Oh, it's going to be great fun. We have— so we're all going to arrive by train. So we're taking the train from that there London.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:38 It's gonna be a boozy evening, is it?

William Hanson 0:09:39 Mhm. We will make our own way to you. We're not expecting a pickup. We're gonna get a taxi.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:46 Well, we'd have to hire a minibus. We'll get there one way.

William Hanson 0:09:48 Yeah, we'll get 2 taxis from Harpenden Station to come to yours. Probably with you, I think about 7:40, probably.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:56 7:40?

William Hanson 0:09:57 Because our train gets in at 7:18.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:09:59 Right.

William Hanson 0:09:59 So, by the time we've got a car and got in a car, I think it's going to be 7:40.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:03 Okay.

William Hanson 0:10:03 So, we'll all arrive en masse. We've all booked a minibus to take us back.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:10 A minibus?

William Hanson 0:10:11 Well, A 6-seat. Well, 6-seater plus a driver.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:14 Right.

William Hanson 0:10:15 They know there are 6. It's going to do 2 drops. It's picking us up at quarter past 11.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:20 Oh, that's a bit early. Why are you going that early?

William Hanson 0:10:23 Well, Jo's got work the next day.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:26 Quarter past 11?

William Hanson 0:10:27 Do you want me to make it 11:30?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:29 Oh, at least.

William Hanson 0:10:30 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:31 We'll be mid-flow.

William Hanson 0:10:32 Well, originally—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:33 Knowing my luck, I'll still have the pecanias on.

William Hanson 0:10:35 It was originally booked for 10:30.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:40 10:30?

William Hanson 0:10:41 Yeah, well, I thought, you know, sometimes your evenings drag, but the— obviously. No, joking. I'm joking, I'm joking. No, and then we all went, that's too early. So we've moved it to quarter past 11, but I'll make it 11:30.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:10:55 Oh, at least. Fancy leaving at half past 11 on a Saturday?

William Hanson 0:11:00 Poor Joe's got to work the next day.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:02 Oh, he's a highly trained professional. He'll be fine.

William Hanson 0:11:06 Well, that's what Luke said.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:07 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:11:08 He said, don't worry about him. But I do worry about him, because I'm a considerate person.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:11 Well, talk to him and find out what time he's prepared to leave. Bye.

William Hanson 0:11:16 I suggested 2 AM on a group text.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:18 Well, no, let's not be silly. I'd like you gone by midnight. But—

William Hanson 0:11:21 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:21 You know, up until 1 minute to midnight, you're welcome to stay. You know.

William Hanson 0:11:26 To be fair, if we're not having Barb's baps, the evening will go a bit quicker.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:31 Oh.

William Hanson 0:11:31 Could make— oh no, if we're not having a first course.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:34 We're gonna have fun. And what are you doing for pudding?

William Hanson 0:11:37 What of Cook's range are you guessing?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:40 I'm not revealing any more other than the picanhas and the lack of barbs bats.

William Hanson 0:11:43 Mikey reminded me of a story when I came over— well, he and I came over for dinner years ago, and you did some strawberries with Chantilly cream.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:11:51 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:11:52 And Mikey said as we were leaving, oh, I'd love the recipe for that Chantilly cream. And knowing you, apparently I— and I probably had a drink— I just laughed and went, Mikey, it was bought. In front of you. I remember that. Can you remember that?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:06 Yeah, I do.

William Hanson 0:12:06 And he was like, no.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:07 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:12:08 And you were like, no, it was homemade. And it was.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:10 It was homemade.

William Hanson 0:12:10 And I apologise for that rudeness, because that was really rude.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:13 That was rude. Etiquette consultant. I was—

William Hanson 0:12:16 we're all allowed a day off.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:17 Very— well, yes, you've been having quite a few recently. Anyway, so that's this weekend. Last weekend, I had a busy weekend. I went to London.

William Hanson 0:12:28 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:29 For my fitting accordions.

William Hanson 0:12:31 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:32 For the Luxury Live Show.

William Hanson 0:12:34 Indeed. Did you— now, I—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:35 Took my girls. The girls were there.

William Hanson 0:12:38 Yep.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:38 Yep. Poppy and Betty.

William Hanson 0:12:39 Were they behaved?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:40 Yeah, yeah, they were kind of. Yeah, they were quite well behaved.

William Hanson 0:12:44 And Cordings allows dogs, do they?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:12:45 Yes. Well, they did that day. I don't know if they normally do, but they were very nice.

William Hanson 0:12:49 They're more service animals with you really, aren't they? Service animals.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:01 Yes, yes, William Nair.

William Hanson 0:13:03 Yeah, yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:05 But yeah, so I was there, met Calvin.

William Hanson 0:13:07 Lovely Calvin.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:08 Wonderful Calvin.

William Hanson 0:13:09 Patient.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:10 Patient. Poor chap.

William Hanson 0:13:12 So at time of recording, I am seeing Calvin tomorrow.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:15 Are you?

William Hanson 0:13:15 Before the Intergenerational. Not before, as in the day before the Intergenerational. So I will get the full—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:20 You could have picked up my outfit!

William Hanson 0:13:22 Well, you didn't ask me.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:23 He's sending me the outfit by courier.

William Hanson 0:13:27 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:27 Yes.

William Hanson 0:13:28 Doesn't do that for me. Well… But I live in London.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:31 He's doing it for me. Oh, if I'd known, you could have picked it up and brought it.

William Hanson 0:13:35 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:35 Oh, 'cause all my adjustments have been made.

William Hanson 0:13:38 To take it in.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:38 Absolute cow.

William Hanson 0:13:43 Well, it might be.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:46 You cow. Yes, it was actually. Yes. Taking the jacket.

William Hanson 0:13:49 Exactly. That's always the way. Go, I get a bigger jacket and have it taken in.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:13:54 Have it taken in. Exactly, yeah. So, he was very patient. I tried on, I think, everything they sell at Corbett's.

William Hanson 0:14:02 Oh God, poor Calvin.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:14:04 Yeah, it was. And at one point, Calvin, I could see he was, you know, desperately trying to find something that I liked because he was surprised that I love yellow. I do. I've always liked yellow.

William Hanson 0:14:16 But does yellow love you?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:14:17 Well, I love yellow. And he did say at one point, I don't want you to look cartoony. I said, I quite like cartoony, Calvin. So, he was trying to find a pocket square that I liked, and I was just just rejecting everything. So, he went upstairs and came down with the whole display unit and put the whole display unit downstairs. And one of his colleagues said, Calvin, you're supposed to take the customers to the unit, not bring the unit to them. But Calvin needed to try and do something to salvage this situation.

William Hanson 0:14:52 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:14:53 And sure enough, there was a pocket square that I thought popped.

William Hanson 0:14:57 Lovely.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:14:58 Guess what colour?

William Hanson 0:14:58 Yellow. Good. Well, I can't wait to see it.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:03 Yes. Country? I'm going to ooze country.

William Hanson 0:15:07 In the centre of Manchester and London. That's right.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:10 Yes, absolutely. Good.

William Hanson 0:15:11 Well, I can't wait. You're going to look very smart. In other news—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:14 Yes.

William Hanson 0:15:15 Well, actually, I'll do the other news before the other news. I am now on bowing terms with the wife of the Japanese ambassador.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:25 You are joking.

William Hanson 0:15:26 I'm not joking. She accosted me right in the middle of the Piccadilly Arcade.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:29 Did she?

William Hanson 0:15:30 She did. She came up and said hello. And literally, we bowed to each other.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:34 The wife of the ambassador?

William Hanson 0:15:35 The wife of the Japanese ambassador.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:37 Gosh. You must tell all your neighbours.

William Hanson 0:15:40 I have told all my neighbours.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:41 Because if she's ever on the phone to you, you'll need them to walk past the house quietly.

William Hanson 0:15:44 I wonder if we get the Japanese ambassador's wife on the podcast?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:49 Oh.

William Hanson 0:15:49 That's not a bad idea.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:51 Is she a hoot?

William Hanson 0:15:52 She was fun. She had a Paddington Bear bag.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:15:55 Okay. She sounds fun. Let's get her on. She was fun.

William Hanson 0:15:57 She's great fun. Don't know if she wants to do media. Do we count as media?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:02 Barely. Barely. That's a good idea.

William Hanson 0:16:07 Rodrigo, do you know the Peruvian ambassador?

Rodrigo 0:16:09 No.

William Hanson 0:16:10 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:10 I'm sorry.

William Hanson 0:16:14 Oh, Paddington!

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:17 Oh, nice.

William Hanson 0:16:17 Connection.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:18 There you go.

William Hanson 0:16:19 Yeah, okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:19 It was a sign.

William Hanson 0:16:20 So not only that, but we have also been talking— and, Bucketheads, we're not going to go on about this for a whole year, don't panic— we've been talking about Friggiana next year, haven't we?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:32 Well, I raised it.

William Hanson 0:16:33 In quite a persistent way on a group chat.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:38 Yes, but do you notice I haven't mentioned it since? Because I thought, do you know what? I've suggested something.

William Hanson 0:16:45 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:45 And it's entirely up to you now what happens. And I thought, I don't want to pressurise you. It's down to you to decide what happens.

William Hanson 0:16:52 In no way at any point did we feel pressurised with the 14 links to villas that came through.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:16:57 No, hang on. We've got to tell the story then, because that makes me sound awful.

William Hanson 0:17:03 No, you're not awful. You're just excited.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:05 So, I found— the perfect villa for William to come to Frigg again. And having booked Frigg for next year, which I did, as I always do— Are you going twice next year? No, just once.

William Hanson 0:17:19 Oh, just once.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:20 But I always book— when I come back, about 2 or 3 days later, I think, oh my God, I need to get something in the diary for Frigg next year. I can't not go to Frigg. So, I booked Frigg next year, and I was just looking around.

William Hanson 0:17:33 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:34 And I found the perfect villa for you.

William Hanson 0:17:36 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:37 So I sent you a link to it, and I said, how about this? And you said, oh, that does look lovely.

William Hanson 0:17:42 That does look very nice.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:42 Does look very nice. So I said to you, strike while the iron's hot, remembering what happened at the Balcon.

William Hanson 0:17:48 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:48 I said, strike while the iron's hot, William. And you did.

William Hanson 0:17:52 I did.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:17:52 Much to my surprise, you got straight on it.

William Hanson 0:17:55 And then about having put in my credit card information and all of that, about 3 hours later, I got an email to say, oh, the people that have just left, Have booked it for like a month next year, including your date. So, I'm sorry, we can't honour your booking. It's cancelled.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:18:09 I was very angry about it. I was very angry. I was angry on your behalf, because I thought that was the perfect villa for you. Yeah. And to have it advertised and allow a booking to go through, and then turn around and say, oh, sorry, actually, I did a verbal deal with someone this morning. You know, I'm sorry, sloppy. Well, I did talk—

William Hanson 0:18:30 what— I mean, I don't want to ask you your consumer rights, what were my consumer rights, but could I have pushed back and go, well, I'm sorry, you were advertising it at that, you've done a verbal deal, you owe it to me?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:18:41 Well, probably, but they've probably got some part of their terms and conditions that does say that in exceptional circumstances they can cancel. So they've probably got that covered.

William Hanson 0:18:52 But also, if I got all stroppy and then next year we turn up, I mean, they're going to be a bit awkward, isn't it? Yeah, exactly.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:18:57 And it is a beautiful villa. So, having found that you'd been let down—

William Hanson 0:19:01 Terrifically let down. That was what then motivated me.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:04 I thought, oh no, I've got to find something else because you're going to be angry and disappointed. So, that's when I just sat there night and day trawling every single available property in Frigiliana.

William Hanson 0:19:18 I know every single available property in Frigiliana.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:20 To provide a selection of choices.

William Hanson 0:19:23 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:23 And I thought, if I send that to you, then you can decide what you do. Do you come? Do you stay? What do you do?

William Hanson 0:19:31 And we should say, this is not just for me. It's for Freddie and George, and Mikey is going to come as well.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:36 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:19:36 Mikey has said he will come. Now, we don't quite know our dates exactly. We won't be there because— are you going for like 10 days again or something?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:43 Of course, yeah.

William Hanson 0:19:44 Yes. At a push, it'll be a week for us.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:47 Right.

William Hanson 0:19:48 But it might be a little bit shorter, or people might do, you know, bits and bits because a year out, we don't quite know what we're doing. We've booked a villa.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:55 Have you?

William Hanson 0:19:56 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:19:56 Now, which one have you booked? Have you booked—

William Hanson 0:19:58 Don't ask me which of the 14 links. One of them. It's got a pool. It's got air conditioning. I will let you know after this.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:04 Is it the one that I sent you first?

William Hanson 0:20:07 I mean, Jonathan, it was booked a week ago. I can't remember.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:10 Is it the one that I said, you should go for this one, William?

William Hanson 0:20:14 I don't know where— Show me. I'll get the map. I'll tell you.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:17 Because I found a couple.

William Hanson 0:20:18 I knew you'd be happy.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:20 I am happy, and I didn't want to mention anything to you because—

William Hanson 0:20:23 No, I thought you'd been very chaste, actually.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:25 I just didn't want you to feel pressurised. I thought I've done— Again?

William Hanson 0:20:30 No. I was flying to Wales. I was on a BA flight. I was at 36,000 feet. They wouldn't load.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:37 I felt bad for you. No. I thought, this is bad, because I've got you to dip your toe in.

William Hanson 0:20:45 I dipped more than my toe in it. I dipped my chip and pin.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:47 And a bloody piranha's bitten it off. Yes. That's why I felt I needed to sort something out.

William Hanson 0:20:52 To be honest, when they emailed back— and it wasn't your fault— when they emailed back to say it, I was like, well, sod you.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:20:57 Right.

William Hanson 0:20:57 I will not be giving my money to the Frigiliana region.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:00 Is it this one? This one with the hot tub?

William Hanson 0:21:03 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:04 Oh no?

William Hanson 0:21:04 Ooh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:06 That was the best one.

William Hanson 0:21:07 Oh, was it?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:08 That was the one I said, this one. That one—

William Hanson 0:21:12 Oh, it does look quite nice.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:13 It's gorgeous, that one.

William Hanson 0:21:14 But it's got a hot tub.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:15 No, no, no, but never mind the hot tub. It's got a beautiful pool. It's beautifully furnished throughout. And the reviews I found were from people saying this is absolutely lovely. Just that one? Oh, were you going there? Oh, okay.

William Hanson 0:21:30 Don't say it like that!

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:31 No, my brother stayed there.

William Hanson 0:21:33 Oh, fine.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:33 Yeah. He said it's not as nice as the first one.

William Hanson 0:21:36 Well, no, I wanted to be in the first one.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:38 Yeah, yeah. No, but it's perfectly acceptable. It's acceptable.

William Hanson 0:21:42 Sorry, do I look like perfectly acceptable?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:44 Well, that— that's— it's one of the more affordable options, isn't it, William? What?

William Hanson 0:21:57 I thought it looked very nice. It is.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:21:59 It is very nice, yeah.

William Hanson 0:22:01 Do you think— can I cancel?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:02 Did you book it with them?

William Hanson 0:22:04 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:05 No.

William Hanson 0:22:07 What do you mean, mm, no?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:08 Well, I don't— no, I don't—

William Hanson 0:22:09 I think it is free cancellation up until certain—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:11 Is it?

William Hanson 0:22:12 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:12 Oh, okay.

William Hanson 0:22:13 'Cause I think that was one of the—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:14 Well, that's who I booked my villa through, that company. They're a very good company. Yeah. But, well, you'll be fine. You'll be fine there.

William Hanson 0:22:22 I'm still within the 14 days, am I not?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:24 I don't know what you've agreed to, William, so I can't take responsibility for that. It was up to you to do your due diligence on what you were booking.

William Hanson 0:22:33 Oh, I just did it quickly.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:35 Oh, William. What are we going to do?

William Hanson 0:22:37 I do not want a perfectly acceptable villa.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:40 And so it starts.

William Hanson 0:22:42 But we are not— I promise you, we are not going on about the frig for a whole year.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:46 And so it starts. So you've booked a villa that you weren't really concentrating on? Out of all of the 14 different choices?

William Hanson 0:22:54 No, we sent it around the group and was like, does this look okay for everyone?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:22:57 Right.

William Hanson 0:22:58 It's 3-bedroom.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:23:00 Yeah, it's nice. My brother stayed there. Yeah. Do you want me to phone my brother?

William Hanson 0:23:04 No. Any news from Bob?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:23:08 Nothing. Nothing from Bob.

William Hanson 0:23:11 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:23:11 Hang on. Let me just phone my brother. He'll tell you. If he's able to answer the phone. He might not. He hasn't blocked my number. That's good, isn't it? Why does no one want to talk to me?

Speaker I 0:23:37 Hi, sorry I can't get to you.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:23:41 Oh, I can't believe it! No one will talk to me.

William Hanson 0:23:44 Well, maybe he'll phone next week as well.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:23:45 Maybe.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:25:39 Welcome back, Bucketheads. We're going to read your questions now, so let's dive into our heaving bags of post. Do remember, if there's something on your mind that needs a luxury touch, postman@luxurypodcast.co.uk is the place for your queries and your questions. Also, a reminder, you can watch these episodes on Patreon if you join our Luxury Members Club, so just head over to luxurypodcast.co.uk to join.

William Hanson 0:26:06 Okay, this first one is from Jessica.

William Hanson 0:26:08 Dear William and Jonathan, I would love to hear your thoughts regarding the increasingly neglected art of handwriting. In the digital age, when almost everything is typed, does it still matter to have beautiful, clear, and elegant handwriting? Is good penmanship simply a charming accomplishment from a bygone era, or does it remain an important part of being a well-educated, well-mannered person? And perhaps more practically, how does one improve one's handwriting as an adult? Are there particular styles, exercises, or writing instruments you would recommend for someone helping to develop a more elegant hand?

William Hanson 0:26:38 I'd love to hear your thoughts on whether good handwriting is an art worth preserving and how one might go about mastering it. Yours digitally, Jessica.

William Hanson 0:26:47 I think it is a skill. I don't possess it. I mean, my handwriting's—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:26:51 You've got quite nice handwriting.

William Hanson 0:26:53 Yeah, I start— when I write my thank you letters, it starts off very nicely, and my signature's fine, but I don't— and then it sort of loses it in the middle.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:05 My handwriting is appalling now. I mean, it's always been bad. Yeah, I write like a GP. So I've got a kind of— I've got a slant to the right.

William Hanson 0:27:22 Hmm.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:25 A slant to the right, which I think is good because if it slants to the left, it means you're a psycho, doesn't it?

William Hanson 0:27:29 It does.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:29 Yeah. So I slant to the right, but then gradually it just gets worse and worse. And you can't— I— some— most of the time I cannot even read my own handwriting.

William Hanson 0:27:37 Oh no, I can read my handwriting. It's not that bad.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:40 Oh no, mine's terrible. Yeah, it's absolutely appalling.

William Hanson 0:27:42 Did you have teachers— I had Miss Spencer who used to at school give us hand— you would do one letter, and then you would go and get it checked, and if you got that letter correct, you could then complete the word. Yeah, then you got the word checked, then you went back, and then you did the sentence.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:54 Did you do calligraphy as well at school?

William Hanson 0:27:58 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:27:58 Oh, you didn't?

William Hanson 0:27:59 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:00 You didn't have, um, one of those special, uh, pens?

William Hanson 0:28:03 What, quill and ink? Well, no. What, a calligraphy pen?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:07 Yeah, we used to have to have a calligraphy pen.

William Hanson 0:28:09 Oh no.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:10 So we'd do our italic and all that kind of stuff in our—

William Hanson 0:28:12 No, but in fact, George, one of my very good friends from school, father to Artemis, my goddaughter, he can write in 7 different fonts.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:20 He can write in 7 fonts?

William Hanson 0:28:23 Literally, he can write. I mean, they probably all slant to the left. Comic Sans? No, no, no, but he has 7 different styles of writing.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:29 Wow. My late mother used to have beautiful handwriting, like a perfect little girl.

William Hanson 0:28:38 Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:39 You know when— Yeah, yeah, yeah.

William Hanson 0:28:41 Girls always have neater handwriting.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:42 Girls always have nice, neat, little kind of perfect handwriting. Her handwriting was always perfect.

William Hanson 0:28:47 I have creative handwriting.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:49 Yes.

William Hanson 0:28:50 Yes, artistic, I would say.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:28:52 Mine is like the handwriting of a stark raving lunatic, to be honest.

William Hanson 0:28:57 In fact, whilst we were in LA, For whatever reason, Freddie decided that we would spend most of our free time, him learning to forge my signature.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:04 Oh.

William Hanson 0:29:05 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:05 Did he manage it?

William Hanson 0:29:06 He thinks so. I don't think it's— I think it's fine. It's fine. I don't think the bank would accept it, thank God. But I think, you know, he could sign a book for— he can do the W, the Anson, or the Hanson.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:21 That's convenient for you.

William Hanson 0:29:22 Oh, it is convenient, yes. Isn't it?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:24 Because you don't have to bother doing it now. You can just get Freddie to do it.

William Hanson 0:29:27 Freddie signed this. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But it is an art. I thought I had quite an easy signature to forge. Turns out I don't, which is reassuring.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:35 Right.

William Hanson 0:29:36 What's your signature?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:37 Well, hang on.

William Hanson 0:29:39 Just do it for me.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:40 We're not going to show it on camera, are we? No.

William Hanson 0:29:43 Yeah, but do you have 2 different— like if someone comes up to you, a fan comes up to you in the street and says, Jonathan, can you sign my breasts? Or something. Do you not have a—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:51 No. That's my signature for everything.

William Hanson 0:29:54 That's like Carol Smiley. That doesn't even look like Jonathan. How would you— how can you work that out as Jonathan Vernon Smith?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:29:59 What are you talking about? Jonathan Vernon Smith. What's wrong with that?

William Hanson 0:30:11 That's a series of loops!

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:12 How dare you!

William Hanson 0:30:14 That's an O!

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:15 Jonathan Vernon Smith.

William Hanson 0:30:20 That's better.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:22 No, what are you talking about? That's my signature.

William Hanson 0:30:24 That does not say Jonathan Burnham-Smith.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:27 Do you want to see my late mother's signature? Okay. So my late mother's signature was like this. Hang on, it's gonna take me a little while.

William Hanson 0:30:33 Okay. This is good for audio. I blame the producer, frankly.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:42 It's like that.

William Hanson 0:30:43 Oh, well, that's just writing her name.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:46 Literally.

William Hanson 0:30:48 I can't see my script.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:49 Literally.

William Hanson 0:30:50 Right.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:50 Show me yours.

William Hanson 0:30:51 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:52 I've showed you mine.

William Hanson 0:30:53 Yeah.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:30:54 Show me yours. What's up? You've got an absolute cheat to have a go at me.

William Hanson 0:31:00 Look, W. Hanson.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:02 That's not a W.

William Hanson 0:31:04 That is.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:05 It's a couple of boobies.

William Hanson 0:31:06 People have said it looks like testicles before.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:11 Booby Hanson. Booby Hanson.

William Hanson 0:31:15 Shut up and read Marcel's.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:16 Right, Marcel has been in touch, who says, salutations, Luxury Pod. After a lifetime of being unlucky in love, I recently met someone special. Oh. This summer, we went to Brighton for our first weekend away.

William Hanson 0:31:33 Okay.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:33 The highlight was going down to the beach for a romantic stroll one night. Hand in hand— Sorry, I'm not being a bit negative. You're being so negative. Oh, I don't like— I don't like holding hands.

William Hanson 0:31:49 Well, no, but some people do.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:50 Hand in hand down the endless pebble beach. At one point, he laid— oh, yeah.

William Hanson 0:31:57 Got it. Told you.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:31:58 He laid his head against a railing. I laid my head on his chest. He put his arms around me and said he loved me for the first time. Has anyone got any Pepto? Moments later, a couple approached the other side of the railing, and I craned my neck up to see them. A well-dressed man and woman seemingly on their one night away from the kids. As I said, it was very dark, and at one point he bunched up her billowy floor-length dress with one hand and with the other one started reaching for her kidneys. Her eyes rolled back, mouth agape.

William Hanson 0:32:42 What the dickens is going on?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:32:43 Good for her, I thought. However, my boyfriend and I became increasingly uncomfortable being privy to this not-so-intimate rendezvous. Should we have announced our presence or just let them get on with it and hope they didn't spot us? But what if they had spotted us? What would happen then? How terribly awkward. How would you handle this predicament in a luxury way? Huge fan, Marcel from St. Lucia.

William Hanson 0:33:15 Gosh. Um, cough.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:18 Oh.

William Hanson 0:33:20 I think you need to step in before it gets this far.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:23 Yes.

William Hanson 0:33:23 Is this a sex act?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:25 I think it was. And I think they knew you were there, Marcel.

William Hanson 0:33:29 They might. Yeah, it's Brighton. It all goes on.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:33 Oh, I don't like the idea of that.

William Hanson 0:33:35 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:35 But you were to blame with all those public displays of affection.

William Hanson 0:33:39 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:39 A manly handshake, that's all that's needed. Or a pat on the back. A pat on the back and a nod.

William Hanson 0:33:45 Not enough couples nod together.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:48 Isn't that right? South Americans are very touchy-feely, aren't you, Rodrigo?

Rodrigo 0:33:52 Yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:53 Yes.

William Hanson 0:33:53 Yes. Oh, yes.

Rodrigo 0:33:55 I like holding hands.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:33:56 I know you do. I've seen you.

William Hanson 0:33:57 Oh. When we went to Frigg, He didn't hold hands in frig, did he?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:34:01 Oh, all the time, weren't you, Rodrigo?

Rodrigo 0:34:03 Yes.

William Hanson 0:34:04 Oh.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:34:05 Not with me.

William Hanson 0:34:07 Oh dear.

William Hanson 0:34:13 This is from Liam. Ahoy there, William and Jonathan. Once again, I seek your distinguished opinions on a matter of social etiquette, as part of our eternal mission to raise and refine those poor unfortunate souls who are less socially fortunate. I recently attended a family gathering on the quietly luxurious Crown Dependency of Jersey. During this trip, we had reserved a meal out in a sophisticated restaurant booked for 6 PM by one of the less luxurious members of my family.

William Hanson 0:34:38 When she asked me what time I intended to arrive at the restaurant, I told her 6 PM, only to be met with a slight disbelief that I would not be arriving, as she was, at 5:45. A slightly terse discussion followed in which she queried why I would not routinely arrive 15 minutes in advance of a table reservation, and I retorted that this is not necessary and frankly a bit odd. When I asked her why she wanted to do this, she responded, To get sat down and stuff. Clearly, the act of sitting in a chair takes her a full 15 minutes. In the end, I told her firmly, but fairly, that I would arrive at 6 PM or a few minutes before.

William Hanson 0:35:09 When I did arrive at the meal, I was smug to see her sitting there alone, half a glass of house Pinot Grigio down, with everyone else turning up just before the reserved time. I understand that if one is by chance early to a table reservation, then sitting down early and waiting is perfectly fine as long as the restaurant is ready, but in my opinion, systematically planning to arrive 15 minutes early and trying to force this on everyone else is borderline psychopathic. If you want 5:45 PM, why not just reserve for 5:45 PM? What are your opinions on this? She is a lady of reasonably advanced years, so perhaps this is an antediluvian etiquette feature that is no longer practised.

William Hanson 0:35:43 Or frankly, should I report her to the relevant authorities as being a danger to herself and others? Best wishes and nautical salutations, Liam.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:35:51 I mean, I like getting places early, but I wouldn't do that.

William Hanson 0:35:56 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:35:57 No.

William Hanson 0:35:57 Again, as Liam says, if you turn up by accident early, or you've, you know, your journey didn't take as long, fine. But no, 6 is 6.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:06 Yeah.

William Hanson 0:36:06 And also, like, you know, it's been a long time since I've been to Jersey, but I would imagine that's not the hottest ticket in town where they are perhaps going to turn you away if you're not there on time. Oh, I hate it in New York. It's a very New York thing. I think other states do it where if it's a table for 4 and 3 of you turn up, they won't seat you until you're all there. I hate that. I hate it.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:28 Why do they do that?

William Hanson 0:36:30 I don't know. And you can see your table sitting there empty.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:33 No, it's very frustrating.

William Hanson 0:36:35 I really don't like that.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:36 But can you say—

William Hanson 0:36:37 And I bet you that's coming over here.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:38 But can you say, can we go and sit down at the table, please?

William Hanson 0:36:43 I've tried that. I said, oh, can I go and wait? They said, no, you can wait at the bar.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:46 Oh, how rude.

William Hanson 0:36:48 Maybe they think you'll order a drink if you're at the bar, whereas you won't at the table. I don't know.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:51 Well, they don't know us Englishmen, do they?

William Hanson 0:36:53 No.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:54 We'll order a drink wherever we are.

William Hanson 0:36:56 Excuse me, I'm English.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:36:57 Yes. I want a drink. Is your concern that I won't order a drink? Because I can guarantee you, I'm British, and I will be ordering a drink.

William Hanson 0:37:05 I know it's an elderly person thing, and generally elderly people like to get there early and be rushed, etc. But I think you say, no thank you, I'll see you at 6. Keep it short and sweet.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:16 Yeah, exactly. That's what you need to do. Well done. Well, do you know what, William? I think that's more than enough luxury.

William Hanson 0:37:21 I still haven't told you about half the stuff, but I'm gonna have to do another bonus next week, aren't I?

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:25 We'll do another bonus. And I'm still buzzing about Frigg. I can't wait. Why are you looking crestfallen?

William Hanson 0:37:31 'Cause I'm going to have to spend up to a week in a perfectly acceptable villa.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:36 It's nice. It's nicer than mine.

William Hanson 0:37:39 Yeah, but—

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:43 You are awful!

William Hanson 0:37:44 Rodrigo, how's been producing us?

Rodrigo 0:37:47 Interesting.

William Hanson 0:37:49 Oh.

Speaker J 0:37:49 Well—

William Hanson 0:37:52 I was gonna ask you to produce us next week.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:55 Yeah, well— Oh, come on, do it next week, will you, Rodrigo?

Rodrigo 0:37:59 I will.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:37:59 Oh, lovely. We'll leave it there for now. We will be back on Wednesday with another Rodrigo production. We'll be talking about bedding, won't we?

William Hanson 0:38:10 Oh yes.

Jonathan Vernon-Smith 0:38:11 Lovely. But until then, goodbye!