EP235: Nat’s Nieces #53 – Would you steal the food bin?

Speaker E 0:02:17 Lovely warm drink.

Speaker F 0:02:32 On a warm day. Yeah, that is the pits.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:35 The fridge is broke. Right.

Speaker F 0:02:38 You've got another fridge.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:39 No, there's no room. I've had to put all the stuff from the freezer in Grandad's freezer. There is no room for ice.

Speaker F 0:02:45 Don't you have a freezer in the garage? Garage?

Speaker H 0:02:47 Yeah. I do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:48 I didn't think of that.

Speaker F 0:02:50 Oh my goodness. I could have—

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:52 and I know I had all my ice in the thing and I just poured it down the sink.

Speaker F 0:02:57 You dope.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:58 Yeah. I didn't think, but then you need a vessel to put it in, a container of some kind.

Speaker F 0:03:02 I'm sure. Just a little bag. Yeah. Or I'm sure. Or a Tupperware. Exactly.

Speaker H 0:03:06 I think you'd be all right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:07 Yeah. I was just aware.

Speaker H 0:03:09 Or just, or the tray from said freezer.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:11 No, I know. Mark's got the part. He's taken the fridge, the back bit off of the fridge. He's looked, he thinks it's a fan, but it was still cold. Got no fans. Got no fans. Got no fans. But it is still not warranty. No, it's over 5 years old.

Speaker H 0:03:27 Oh, and how bad is that though? What do you do?

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:30 Oh, it's just a nightmare. I mean, what would I've done? And you know what's really funny? What's that? For the last 3 months, I've been very unorganised with dinners, getting things every day, not knowing what to cook.

Speaker H 0:03:41 Did you stock up? And honestly, and blames me. Oh, I listened to you. I've done a shop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:45 Yeah. 'Cause she's like, it's disgusting. You don't have things in.

Speaker H 0:03:49 So I took it on. It is though. Every day I've gotta go. I'm like, just do an order or go to the shop and get 4 dinners at least. Yeah, I don't do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:56 So anyway, Sunday.

Speaker H 0:03:58 No, I know, but you're, you're a bit different. You're here, there, and everywhere. You're working from home, you can nip out. Not when you're working, you're in London all day and then you're coming back and you've gotta feed 4 people. You have gotta be a little— I'm not great at it, but I can pop to the shop, but I still try and have a couple of days under my belt.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:16 So I took Joanie and Flossie to David Lloyd on Sunday.

Speaker F 0:04:19 That's so weird.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:21 Why?

Speaker F 0:04:22 So I was driving here and I thought, No one goes. I dunno what made me think of it. I was thinking of me and Eliza going. I thought, oh, I missed that. Do you go?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:33 Yeah, I'm starting to. I mean, no, no, not, not as much as I should, but yes, I'm hoping to make the most of it. However, so I went and whilst I was swimming, I sat and did ChatGPT.

Speaker F 0:04:43 She's obsessed with it. It's great though.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:46 I did a meal plan.

Speaker F 0:04:48 Oh, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:48 I said, this is what my children like. This is what we like. I'd like to eat healthy. I'd like a vegetarian meal, but we like meat. That's a good idea. This one doesn't like mozzarella. Did a 5-day plan.

Speaker F 0:04:59 Is this killing our cookbook?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:59 No, no, it's not because cookbooks are, you know, they're my favourite thing in the world. But just whilst I was sat there.

Speaker H 0:05:07 Yeah, but even if it's just sort of giving you, yeah, right. A bit of inspo.

Speaker F 0:05:10 No, I love it.

Speaker H 0:05:11 A bit of inspiration plus planning it out a little bit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:14 So that's what I did. Practising Sunday. Got all things for 4 days and the fridge broke. Packed, packed to the rafters. Don't know how I've packed it into the fridge in Grandad's.

Speaker F 0:05:25 Well, thank goodness you got spare, 'cause—

Speaker H 0:05:27 Yeah, I mean, what you'd have to be, you'd have to buy a, buy one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:30 Well, or you'd have to cook it all that night.

Speaker H 0:05:33 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What, put it in the fucking freezer that don't work?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:36 One in the garage I forgot about.

Speaker H 0:05:39 But no, yeah, what would you do? You'd have to buy a little one just to put in the shed or just something.

Speaker F 0:05:44 I've got one in the shed actually.

Speaker H 0:05:46 Oh good.

Speaker F 0:05:46 It's small though. Have you got my chair?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:49 Still. Yes. You have. That was a, a conversation had the other day, and I said, I know Maria's still got it, 'cause Mark was like, you've lost a chair. Why have I got it? You had it once. I brought it round for the garden.

Speaker F 0:06:00 I'm watching it.

Speaker H 0:06:01 I'm watching it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:01 No, you're not, 'cause I have 2 and they're actually handy.

Speaker H 0:06:04 Really?

Speaker F 0:06:04 I've had it for years.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:05 If we go to the farmer's. No, I know, but it's come up and you don't know.

Speaker F 0:06:08 Like a sunbed.

Speaker H 0:06:11 Oh, the foldable sun loungers. Chunks they were.

Speaker F 0:06:15 Yeah. Do I have it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:16 I hope so. You definitely had it in your shed.

Speaker H 0:06:19 Oh wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:21 Probably chucked it away.

Speaker F 0:06:22 No, I think I have. Oh, I don't know. That's right. No, I think I have.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:25 Have a little butcher's for me.

Speaker F 0:06:26 Yeah, I haven't got it.

Speaker H 0:06:26 She's saying that just so she can keep it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:28 Yeah. No, you can have it back.

Speaker F 0:06:29 I'm joking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:30 That's right. Just good for the beach and that, aren't they?

Speaker F 0:06:32 The beach.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:33 The beach I go to all the time.

Speaker H 0:06:34 What the fuck is she talking about? No, you wanna have 2 of them? Well, no, it's yours.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:39 But it's very good for the, it is good for the railway if you go there to, if it's sunny to sit out rather than a bench. Anyway, that's fine.

Speaker H 0:06:48 Enjoy yourself.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:49 You've been all right?

Speaker F 0:06:50 Yes. Yeah. All good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:52 All good. I missed you. You've been away.

Speaker F 0:06:53 I know. It was lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:54 Did you have a nice time?

Speaker F 0:06:55 It was really lovely. It was nice because we didn't overplan. Although one day we was like, oh shit, maybe we should have booked a beach club. Cause it, everything was obviously busy. Couldn't get in anywhere.

Speaker H 0:07:04 Did you not try the one I told you to go to? Everywhere. Everywhere busy.

Speaker F 0:07:07 But we, it was fine. We went to the beach, went for a lovely, no, it was just really nice, really chilled. We didn't like have to put pressure on like going out every night. I had an early night one night, so I woke up feeling brand new.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:20 Oh, that's good.

Speaker F 0:07:20 Yeah. Went to my favourite place, Sneaky Pete. Ah. Yeah. Love, really easy, just easy crowd and yeah, go with the flow. And I've realised I'm allergic to this country, which is a shame.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:33 No, you're fine when you, you in the other country. I'm telling you now. I know.

Speaker F 0:07:37 I was coughing before I went. Yeah. Did you? I didn't cough. I've stepped off that plane. My eyes went like that.

Speaker H 0:07:45 Maybe it's just all in the mind.

Speaker F 0:07:47 No, it's not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:47 It's holiday.

Speaker F 0:07:48 Last night I was coughing.

Speaker H 0:07:49 Oh, that's hay fever.

Speaker F 0:07:51 It's, this country's fucked.

Speaker H 0:07:53 Well, it's not just the hay fever, the reason we're fucked, but yeah. Amongst a lot of other things.

Speaker F 0:07:59 But I did really miss the kids.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:01 Of course you did.

Speaker F 0:08:02 And they have grown up. so much in how many days? 4 days. It's weird. Really? Yeah. They change so much for not seeing them for that amount of time. It's horrible. I don't like it.

Speaker H 0:08:16 Oh yeah, but I've even noticed with James over the last couple of weeks, I feel like we had a little spell of just not, not angry, like frustrated.

Speaker F 0:08:24 Little growth spurt.

Speaker H 0:08:25 Tantrum-y. And yeah, definitely a growth spurt. And now he's calmer. He's like, he's listening more. But we, he, we were here today, we popped in 'cause I walked to get Joni and he was just, you know, Nat steps into the lounge, he was just bouncing off 'em. And I was like, what? Normally he would stop, hand. But he's just— But he's learned to be able to just go up and down.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:46 He's just much more walking around.

Speaker H 0:08:47 And even that, I think maybe that was a bit of a— It is. Bit of independence to do things.

Speaker F 0:08:52 Before I went away, they didn't sleep. I had about 3 hours sleep every night. I dunno what happened. Oh yeah.

Speaker H 0:08:58 Well, maybe that was a bit of a growth spurt. That's what I mean.

Speaker F 0:09:00 It was mental. So I was kind of like, I'm exhausted. That's why that early night really helped me out. But even like, I picked them up from school yesterday and loads of conversation. Alfie just looked grown up and he's just, he's just so beautiful sometimes, that kid. And then Ruby—

Speaker H 0:09:18 Sometimes. Sometimes.

Speaker F 0:09:20 No, but he is. But they have their moments. Even Ruby just, she just comes out with stuff and I'm like, oh my goodness.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:26 I think it's the development.

Speaker F 0:09:29 Hmm. It's divine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:31 Fundamental. Thank you. I can't talk today, which is not great for what we're doing.

Speaker F 0:09:35 That happens often.

Speaker H 0:09:36 Yeah. I mean, I feel like you say that every time.

Speaker F 0:09:38 I wonder if it's just the way she comes out with stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:41 Yeah.

Speaker F 0:09:41 And it's copying what I say, just the way she phrases things or can't— what was that? I'm sorry. Can't think of it now, but just, I dunno if she'll be like, that's really— I thought it was just so sort of— Well, it's James.

Speaker H 0:09:55 Everything. Wow. Yeah. Wow. We pulled up here. Mark's got his trailer. He's seen it. Wow. Everything. We'd walk around the shops, you could see a leaf. Wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:08 Oh, he's so cute.

Speaker H 0:10:10 Definitely my son.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:11 They're all so lovely, aren't they?

Speaker F 0:10:13 Well, yeah, they can be. They, yeah, not all the time. But no, they've been, they've been lovely. And Alfie's learning guitar.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:20 Your dream.

Speaker F 0:10:21 He's started. I can't believe it. You should learn with him. I know, but I don't think I can, can I? But I think if he starts practising at home, I can, I'm gonna get my dad to get my guitar out the loft and I might, I think you should.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:31 Trying to do it with him.

Speaker F 0:10:32 Just a lot. I just feel, today I feel very overwhelmed. I've not stopped working, but in between quiet times and all, like, not that I have lunch breaks, quiet times, I've been trying to sort out their birthdays because I just feel like everything, I'm so busy. Yeah, but it's good.

Speaker H 0:10:47 It's sometimes when it's all in your head, it's like when you wake up and you think, I've got this to do, I've got that to do. Actually, once you crack on with it, it's, you think, oh, it's not that bad.

Speaker F 0:10:55 Oh no, I think it is.

Speaker H 0:10:56 No, it is. But yeah, but as long as you deal with it.

Speaker F 0:10:59 Yeah. So I've sort of booked their parties and stuff.

Speaker H 0:11:03 Excellent. I thought that the other day, I thought that's James's first proper party.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:08 Oh yeah, it is.

Speaker H 0:11:09 Not that he's gonna know what's going on, but even just the music and all the food, he's gonna love it. He'll probably be like, get me outta here.

Speaker F 0:11:16 Yeah, even that, I was like, I've got a cake, but I'm not, I'm not gonna overthink it. I'm just gonna do what I'm doing and they'll have a nice time. They'll just have a nice time. I mean, he'll love that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:25 Don't need to go mad.

Speaker H 0:11:27 Speaking, you mentioned Dad. We went to the garden centre yesterday yesterday, did all my pots for me, which was really cute. And, um, as we walked outside, I saw—

Speaker F 0:11:36 Really cute, that. Really cute.

Speaker H 0:11:37 Why?

Speaker H 0:11:38 Why is that? Why are you saying that? Our garden's fucked. Okay, well, I'm on it. And I picked him up, we had a nice little afternoon.

Speaker H 0:11:44 That's all Mum kept saying, you need to go and sort the others out as well now. I'm like, oh Jesus. So we walked, as we walked outside, I saw this rose and it was beautiful. You know, I love that Amnesia rose. It was a bit like that, but it wasn't one of those, but it was a bit lilacy.

Speaker H 0:11:59 And I've gone, and Dad was like, yeah, it's lovely. I said, oh, I'd love that in a pot. And then as I picked it out, it said, my lovely Dad. Oh. So it was a my lovely Dad rose.

Speaker H 0:12:06 And I was like, that's really cute, but is it weird? Now I feel like I've got this weird thing around me. Oh, perfect. It's horrible. Oh no, it's not.

Speaker H 0:12:14 No, it's not. And then I said, no, do you know what? It's not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:17 I didn't have any roses about my dad though till he was dead.

Speaker H 0:12:20 No, I—

Speaker F 0:12:21 That's what we're saying. I know. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker H 0:12:23 So it's a bit, I feel like I'm buying it from— Premonition. No, I don't mean that. That's awful. But then I thought, no, you've planted it. It's a, and you've had a, it's a memory.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:33 Yeah.

Speaker H 0:12:33 But I just thought it's weird that we'll just say it's for Jack Father's Day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:37 I've gotta take these socks off. Hang on a minute. Hang on.

Speaker H 0:12:41 Oh, I took my socks off just now. So what? I've got one. No, it's not that. I did not think of that. Father's Day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:47 There you go.

Speaker H 0:12:47 Oh, I'm gonna go hide it.

Speaker F 0:12:49 Buy a little plaque. Yeah. And do that. Stick a little bow on it.

Speaker H 0:12:52 Yeah. Jack will be thrilled.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:53 Who wears socks at home?

Speaker F 0:12:56 Me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:57 All the time. You don't go barefoot at home?

Speaker H 0:12:59 Yeah. No.

Speaker F 0:13:00 Slippers.

Speaker H 0:13:00 Slippers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:01 So you're never barefoot at home?

Speaker F 0:13:03 No. Hate it. I don't like it.

Speaker H 0:13:05 I used to always be barefoot, but I really struggle with the hard floor on my feet. Same. It hurts.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:12 I think because I've got such hard skin, probably because I'm barefoot all the time.

Speaker H 0:13:16 Yeah, maybe I've— but no, if I sit on the sofa, slippers off. I can't. I like my feet out. Like now, I've, I've took my socks off.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:24 It was so funny actually, cuz when Tony comes over, I noticed the socks come off. He takes his socks off as well.

Speaker H 0:13:30 Does he?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:30 But he has slippers. But if he sat on the sofa, he'll take the socks off.

Speaker H 0:13:34 Yeah. I like that. Funny, innit? Yeah. But you wear socks to bed, you fucking weirdo.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:39 Sometimes. No, no, not, not all the time.

Speaker F 0:13:41 Yeah.

Speaker H 0:13:41 That's weird for the person that don't wear socks all day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:43 I can wear socks in bed. Joanie loves a sock in bed. Yeah, she does. It can be 100 degrees and she's got fluffy Winter big socks on.

Speaker H 0:13:50 Yeah, socks in bed is a no-no.

Speaker F 0:13:52 No, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:54 There we go. Absolutely not. We've got some— Are you all right? Yeah, I'm good, yeah.

Speaker H 0:13:58 I feel like me and Maria have been up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:59 No, no, no, I'm, I'm very good. I'm just playing. I did, I did Chris and Rosie Ramsay's pod today. Lovely. Shagged, Married and Annoyed. They're a lovely couple. But I did Sewing Bee with her anyway. Oh, nice. But we're very similar way we chat about staying in and good wine and no, it was a good old natter. So everyone will be able to listen to that soon. There's lots going on with the pod, which is very, very exciting. Oh, and, and we need to talk about the World Cup because it starts when this comes out.

Speaker H 0:14:25 Woo! Buzzing.

Speaker F 0:14:27 What's the theme tune? I was gonna do— You want me to write the theme tune?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:31 Sing the theme tune.

Speaker H 0:14:32 Um, no, that's Match of the Day.

Speaker F 0:14:36 Match of the Day.

Speaker H 0:14:37 Oh no, that's Champions League.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:41 Can I just say that they— it could be a new one because it's 4 years. I think they actually do New ones, don't they?

Speaker F 0:14:48 Do they?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:48 Have a little look. But Audio Always, who we are now with as a company.

Speaker F 0:14:54 Thanks.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:54 They've only done— no, well, telling everyone so they know who it is. Across the network, we've been randomly assigned a team. Oh.

Speaker H 0:15:04 Oh. Little sweet thing. Come on, be a good 'em.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:08 I've got Germany.

Speaker F 0:15:10 What do you mean you've got?

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:12 I've got Germany.

Speaker H 0:15:13 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:14 I've been given 3 teams. Because there's a lot of us on this pod.

Speaker F 0:15:17 Oh, she's mugged us off with someone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:18 No, but I've gotta stick with what it is.

Speaker F 0:15:20 All right, fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:21 I have Germany.

Speaker H 0:15:23 The girls, oh, as in me, Maria, and Mum, correct?

Speaker F 0:15:27 Oh yeah, Mum loves the World Cup.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:29 Japan. Oh, you've got Japan? Perfect. Well, the boys have got Haiti, so all the best.

Speaker H 0:15:37 Haiti? Haiti. Oh, Haiti.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:39 Haiti. Oh, is it? Haiti. I don't, I don't travel.

Speaker H 0:15:42 It's— No, but, Dom was saying, it could go some, like a team that you would never think.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:49 Really?

Speaker H 0:15:50 And it could, yeah.

Speaker F 0:15:51 Well, I'm up for that. Well, I'm up for that. That's fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:53 Jack and Ash pod. Jack's got England.

Speaker H 0:15:56 Wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:57 I am so jealous.

Speaker H 0:15:58 Why? They're not gonna win anyway.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:00 Yeah, but it's nice, isn't it? No, no, I like that there's another team.

Speaker H 0:16:04 Why are they not gonna win? Just think they just fuck it up all the time. Oh, faith.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:08 Oh, that's nice of you.

Speaker H 0:16:09 No, I like to have someone else, 'cause then you've got—

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:11 Well, it's a bit of interest, isn't it? Yeah. Drunk Women Solving Crime, a pod I did before. Lovely people, Hannah and Taylor. They've got Ecuador and Croatia, which is excellent. And then—

Speaker F 0:16:22 Why is that excellent?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:23 I wanted to have a little look here. Jordan North's got Portugal.

Speaker H 0:16:27 Nice. Portugal, that's a good one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:28 Jordan, I've got the hump, mate. I tell you what.

Speaker H 0:16:30 Get Ronaldo right, mate. Remember I beat you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:31 I beat you at the old food board, and now you're gonna beat me at football. William's got Austria.

Speaker H 0:16:37 What do we win?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:39 Money? Does not say. Hopefully a number 1 spot in the old podcast chart.

Speaker F 0:16:43 When's Japan's first game? Oh, we'll find out. I'm not getting invested in this.

Speaker H 0:16:48 But let's get invested. It's not, it is the Shakira Afrobeat song with Burna Boy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:52 Yes, it is.

Speaker H 0:16:53 Excellent.

Speaker F 0:16:53 Yeah, it's right up my straza.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:55 It's excellent. Really good. Yeah, so it's a nice little bit of interest. Brilliant.

Speaker F 0:16:59 When does it start?

Speaker H 0:17:00 Thursday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:01 Today. Thursday. Today.

Speaker F 0:17:02 Excellent. What time?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:02 Not sure.

Speaker H 0:17:03 9 o'clock, I think, might be the first game.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:05 There we go.

Speaker H 0:17:06 I'll have a little look. What time are the games on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:09 'Cause you're good at all this stuff. It's in the USA, right?

Speaker H 0:17:11 No, they're like 2 o'clock in the morning, something stupid. I think South Korea and Czech, 3 AM. There's a couple at like 5 o'clock, but then there's, yeah, midnight, 3 AM. England's first game is Wednesday the 17th, is that right? Wednesday the 17th at 9 o'clock, Croatia. Oh, that sounds too bad.

Speaker F 0:17:33 I heard, I don't know how true it is, that they're gonna let the pubs stay open later. Well, I would imagine so.

Speaker H 0:17:39 Yeah, that's what I heard too. Hmm. But who, even if you don't want to go to the pub for, at 3 o'clock in the morning, who's doing that?

Speaker F 0:17:47 That's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:47 No, it's ridiculous. Who's gonna stay up to watch it? Well, people will, won't they? Of course. But it is a very, very inconvenient time. It's not a little bit late, is it?

Speaker H 0:17:55 It's a real shame.

Speaker F 0:17:56 Why is it in the US of A?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:58 No idea.

Speaker H 0:18:00 Don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:01 I dunno how it works.

Speaker H 0:18:02 They don't play football. They played soccer.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:05 Soccer.

Speaker H 0:18:06 I don't get it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:24 Right, we've got loads of correspondence to get through, so I'm gonna start because they're all very good. In fact, we just had one, Justin, which I'm going to— Who's Justin?

Speaker H 0:20:35 Uh, Timberlake.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:39 Couldn't think of a song quick enough. I'm devastated. Oh, really?

Speaker F 0:20:42 Or another name?

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:43 Just couldn't do it. I was gonna do Justin's House, it's the way you wanna play it.

Speaker H 0:20:48 Wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:48 Julie is just in whilst you were on your way.

Speaker H 0:20:53 My Julie.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:54 Hi Nat, just finished listening to ep 230, Nat's nieces. Helping or offending? Some years ago on the train home from work, I offered another lady my seat as I thought she was pregnant. Her response, I'm not pregnant, I'm just fat. Oh no. I was mortified. I will now only now offer my seat to someone wearing a badge. Badge, yeah.

Speaker H 0:21:16 Oh, that is risky.

Speaker F 0:21:18 That's happened to someone I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:19 Really?

Speaker H 0:21:22 Really? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, that is, that's hardcore.

Speaker F 0:21:26 I, yeah, I, I think unless they're—

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:29 But really, there were no badges in my day.

Speaker F 0:21:31 Was it? No. You fucking didn't get the train. What do you mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:37 Well, I did at times, I think. I'm just saying.

Speaker F 0:21:40 There were definitely badges.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:40 Really? Yeah. I'm not sure.

Speaker H 0:21:43 A lovely 2 young girls were in the shop the other day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:47 Yeah.

Speaker H 0:21:47 And I was in there with James just grabbing some bits. And thankfully it was the morning and they were sort of interacting with James a bit. And then after swung round, like come round and she went, I'm really sorry, I've just gotta tell you, you've got your label. 'Cause I went, oh no, what? She went, you've got your label hanging out of your t-shirt. She went, I'm sorry. I said, no, I fully appreciate that. Thank you so much. How weird. And she pulled it out for me. I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:11 Gee.

Speaker H 0:22:12 Thank God, because I was going to like a, like a toddler group and that—

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:17 God forbid it was out, the toddler group.

Speaker H 0:22:19 No, I know, but you fucking met Gala, is it? No, I know, but you just know that people are dickheads and they wouldn't have said anything.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:24 Yeah, no, I hear you.

Speaker H 0:22:25 And I'd have been fuming.

Speaker F 0:22:26 That is brilliant. Yeah, no, it's, um, yeah, I think, yeah, just the badge.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:32 Gotta wear a badge. You be wearing a badge unless it's very obvious.

Speaker H 0:22:40 I think there's a lot. If you've got a whole belly, 7 months.

Speaker F 0:22:43 However, what's mad—

Speaker H 0:22:44 A whole belly.

Speaker F 0:22:45 A whole belly. However, what's mad is I remember, because you hide it, don't you? You don't tell people for some reason. I don't actually know why. So—

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:55 Oh, it's to go up to the 3 months when it's safer.

Speaker F 0:22:57 No, I know. No, I know that. But also, what? I know, but in my head I was like, why? Because then if something does happen, I'm still gonna tell people.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:09 No, I understand what you're saying. I'm just gonna say it to you, but not everyone.

Speaker F 0:23:12 No, no, no, I do get what you mean. No, I get it. But what I was getting to is the first 3 months. Is it 3 months? First 3 months. That's the worst bit. That's the worst bit. I remember standing on the train and at one point I thought, oh my God, I'm gonna faint. I was all, you know, you just go. I was sweating. No one offered me a seat. They didn't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:27 No.

Speaker F 0:23:28 Really, I should have said, excuse me, can I sit down? But that is actually the most, for me, when I'm heavily pregnant, I could have stood, it was fine. Yeah, that is.

Speaker H 0:23:34 I always say that, that first 3 months is the hardest. Mate, I mean—

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:40 Well, it depends. Everyone's different, but I found that the first—

Speaker H 0:23:42 I mean, I didn't know for 8 weeks, so.

Speaker F 0:23:44 Lucky you.

Speaker H 0:23:45 But I did. Now it makes sense why I'd walk into work and feel like, and I'd sit down and say to someone in my team, I need something to eat. Has anyone got like a cereal bar? Because I'd been up since 7, but I never really had breakfast. Obviously now I realise why.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:00 Morning. After listening to your pod last week when you were talking about whether or not you would tell people if they have something in their teeth or a label has come off, It reminded me of my friend's experience. She was at a black tie ball at the National History Museum a few years ago. Big posh do, poker tables, champagne, et cetera.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:18 She was looking after— Fancy. So she was looking after one of the clients. She saw an eyelash on his cheek and said to them, let me get that for you. And it didn't move. So she got the hair between her nails and she pulled it and it was attached to a little mole on his cheek.

Speaker H 0:24:32 Oh no. I mean, that's bold.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:35 Let me get that for you.

Speaker F 0:24:36 Well, no, but she thought it was an eyelash. But I wouldn't get that. Yeah, but I wouldn't say the mole. Could you not see the mole? I wouldn't get that up close and personal. Let me get that. I'll do it to you. I think you've got an eyelash.

Speaker H 0:24:47 Well, like to a client especially, you know, it's a bit—

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:50 that's a lot. It's bold. Bold move, honey. Bold move.

Speaker F 0:24:56 Did she pluck it out or did it not come out?

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:58 Oh no, she hasn't said.

Speaker H 0:25:00 I've got a story and I weren't going to share it Do it. I think we're all— I think we're all right. All right, do it. I bumped into someone the other day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:09 We're all friends here.

Speaker F 0:25:10 This is a cracker.

Speaker H 0:25:11 I bumped— I told Maria and Mum and that earlier. I said, I bumped into someone the other day, and it only just dawned on me this morning. So I'm chatting away. I've not seen this person for a long time. I know who they are, but it's a sort of a distant friend.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:25 Desperate to know who it is.

Speaker H 0:25:27 And I don't even think you'd know who it is. And I said, you know, hello, da da da, chatting away. And I said, oh, I see all your bits on Facebook. This person is on a weight loss journey. And I said, oh, you're doing really well. It's not her. It's a different person. And then I was told that this person doesn't have Facebook. So she must have thought, what the fuck is she talking about? And, and she went, oh, do you? Bless her.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:55 No, she didn't. Oh.

Speaker F 0:25:57 Have you looked to see if she's on Facebook?

Speaker H 0:25:59 No, I don't wanna know anything more, and I don't ever wanna see her again. And I, I, I knew who she was, but I got her confused with another person.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:07 It happens.

Speaker H 0:26:09 But also, I'm just lying to you. But I had— I do. It's just a different person that I see. No, you wasn't lying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:15 You got it confused. She was lying to you by going, yeah, yeah, really good. She should— I would've said, what are you talking about?

Speaker H 0:26:21 Thank God she fucking didn't. I'd have said, oh, I think James has done a poo, gotta go. Oh, well, I love stuff like that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:29 Would you have stood there and gone, yeah, yeah, I genuinely— Yeah, no, I would. Would you?

Speaker H 0:26:33 Depends who it was, but I don't care who that was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:35 I would have said, sorry, I'm not on Facebook, what are you talking about? Not in a rude way. I would have said, no, I'm not on it, because that's such a thing to differentiate you. If you're not on something, I'd be like, sorry, that's not me. What?

Speaker F 0:26:45 Um, I don't know if this is the same thing, but it's just reminded me. Last night I had to— I took a snippet of EastEnders and sent it to Kitty.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:53 Oh, yeah.

Speaker F 0:26:54 And just put the dead face with loads of laughing emojis. They're talking about— the storyline is that Ian's run over the little boy by accident. What's her face?

Speaker H 0:27:05 Jordan.

Speaker F 0:27:06 No, what's her name? Chelsea's little boy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:08 Yep.

Speaker F 0:27:09 Anyway, they chat. They're all like, Kathy's in the street, you know, they're having a go. Kitty's having— Penny, whatever her name is, in it. Then Max is saying, like, You know, he could end up with, like, a wheelchair. He got run over like you did to Kitty.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:23 No.

Speaker F 0:27:25 Obviously it's— No, I didn't. And in it she just, like, rolls her eyes and I, I messaged her. I said, that is the funniest line. Like, obviously assuming, 'cause she's in a wheelchair, she got run over. That was the line in the show. No, but didn't she? Oh, did she?

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:38 In the show.

Speaker H 0:27:39 Oh, did she? Oh, I don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:42 I don't know. But I know what you mean.

Speaker H 0:27:44 That is, yeah, but that is not how it was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:47 But that's, again, it's a very Iain Beale thing to say. That's why I'm writing it. Well, was it, Max? Oh, well, even better. He's an asshole anyway. Max is an asshole.

Speaker F 0:27:54 Oh, I know. It was just so funny about her reaction to it, as if Sarah was just assuming I've been run over. I see. Well, that's how I took it. I didn't, I didn't know if she'd got run over or not. Yeah. I can't hear you.

Speaker H 0:28:04 Possibly.

Speaker F 0:28:04 But I just thought that is hilarious.

Speaker H 0:28:06 So she's not on Facebook. I just checked.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:10 Fabulous. Fabulous. Fabulous.

Speaker H 0:28:13 Oh, sickening.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:16 Moving on.

Speaker H 0:28:17 That's bad, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:18 Moving on.

Speaker H 0:28:19 How have I done that?

Speaker F 0:28:20 Because you are blathering on for a long time.

Speaker H 0:28:24 Yeah, just shut up. Just shut up. Say hello. Yeah, this is my son. Nice to see you. Bye-bye.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:28 Hi, Nat's nieces. Just listening to the pod on telling people when they have something on them. Once my cousin was eating a sausage roll and then later was told, oh, you have some pastry left around your mouth. She said, oh no, that's just my dry, flaky lips. The old flaky lips. Mummy, what is happening? Another one. She's got another one. She's cracking, old Emma in Cornwall. I would've died with embarrassment. Another one. I was at friend's having dinner and she made me a lasagne. Later in the evening, we were dancing around and one of the girls went to try and flick some mincemeat off another girl's back. I mean, it's me.

Speaker I 0:29:21 It's me. I'm my shit. Yeah.

Speaker F 0:29:22 What's going on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:24 They're having a boogie around the kitchen, aren't they?

Speaker F 0:29:29 Oh, I love it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:30 Oh dear.

Speaker F 0:29:31 I love shit like this.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:32 Thank you for bringing us all the joy in the world. Never missed an episode from Emma in Cornwall. Thanks, Emma. Very, very good.

Speaker H 0:29:39 I've got many.

Speaker F 0:29:39 We need more of these stories. I've got many. I've got someone I just can't think of. I just can't share them. I can't share them. Oh, really?

Speaker H 0:29:45 Yeah, I can't. I've got many. Maybe one day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:48 Patreon. Save it for Patreon. Not long now, guys. Not long now.

Speaker F 0:29:52 I feel like there's some that I've done before, or— wish I knew.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:56 You know, last time we were in here, it was about 38 degrees outside, and you said, how do cleaners click? We were talking about cleaners.

Speaker H 0:30:02 Oh, yeah.

Speaker F 0:30:02 A lot. We had a lot of messages saying thank you for the recognition in this weather. We do. Yeah, I did get quite a few. We recognise. Yeah. We sympathise, but you carry on, 'cause you're great. You did a great job.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:14 Tara from Farnborough said, morning, Natalie.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:16 I was just listening to your latest pod with the nieces, and you were talking about working in last week's heatwave. I am myself a domestic house cleaner, and you were saying it must be extremely hard to work in this heat cleaning someone's house. Let me tell you, it was absolutely horrendous. Oh, gross. I didn't wanna let my ladies down.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:35 I pulled my big girl pants up, And I got on and cleaned all my clients' houses. I have absolutely lovely ladies that I clean for. Could I stop here? Why is it lovely ladies? Why do all of the cleaning community, all right, might, might not be all of you, but our cleaner will say, oh, ladies.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:56 Is it 'cause we organise it all?

Speaker F 0:30:57 Yes, of course. Do you know what I'm saying?

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:59 But she's saying lady. I mean, it's a whole house full of people, isn't it?

Speaker F 0:31:03 Oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:04 It's a funny one. Yeah. Anyway, she had to take 2 pairs of rubber gloves because she sweated so much inside the gloves were soaking. So she had to keep changing them. That's how hot it was. Wow. So well done, Tara.

Speaker F 0:31:17 Yeah, well done, girl.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:17 Well done.

Speaker H 0:31:18 And it's coming back next week, the old heatwave.

Speaker F 0:31:21 Is it though?

Speaker H 0:31:22 Oh, I think we've got some nice weather coming up. Have we? 24, 27.

Speaker F 0:31:25 That's not a heatwave, is it? 24? I cannot believe it at all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:30 Oi, can we get a box for a ring-a-ding-a-ding? in here. 5 every time a noise goes off.

Speaker F 0:31:35 I'll be loaded. Bring it on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:38 I'm working.

Speaker H 0:31:40 Oh, I think it's next door with the old swaps.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:43 The old swaps is for the stickers.

Speaker H 0:31:45 Yeah, I forgot to— that's another thing. While we were talking about the World Cup, I'm doing my beans on these stickers. Have you got any spares for Alfie?

Speaker F 0:31:53 Yes. I ain't buying any more of them. Taking the piss.

Speaker H 0:31:55 Uh, they are— I am doing my absolute—

Speaker F 0:31:58 £10 for 5 packs? 4 packs?

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:00 No, it's more than that.

Speaker H 0:32:01 It's £1.75 a pack. How much? £1.25.

Speaker F 0:32:05 That's not that bad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:07 There's a lot of stickers in those books.

Speaker H 0:32:08 Do you know, I've been buying them for weeks.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:10 And do you know what's annoying? My Marks and Spencer's book is nearly filled up. Joanie's got done ages ago.

Speaker H 0:32:17 Why is that annoying?

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:18 Well, because now I'm, I feel bereft, so I've bought another sticker book to do.

Speaker H 0:32:23 Yeah, no, it's fortunes.

Speaker F 0:32:26 Any W's this way.

Speaker H 0:32:27 Yeah, all right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:28 I'll just give you a load of the ones I ain't done yet for Alfie tonight.

Speaker F 0:32:32 The—

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:32 I've got a stack.

Speaker F 0:32:33 Not the Marxes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:34 No, the other one.

Speaker F 0:32:35 Fine, thank you.

Speaker H 0:32:36 I'll have some and all. Um, yeah, heatwave. Well, we've got nice weather. Okay, not a heatwave. I didn't mean to say that. Just some nice weather. That's all we want out there. Like today, what has been— I'm sweating, I'm cold.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:49 Freezing. I wore that lovely blazer that you got me, the brown one.

Speaker F 0:32:52 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:52 But it's short sleeves with a vest. I was absolutely blitters on the train.

Speaker H 0:32:57 Freezing. And this morning when I left, beautiful it was. I came out of the club, class. Don't show. Out of the club. Out of the club. I got absolutely soaked. When I say like, that's my hair was all done nice. Sodden. Sodden through. And leggings. Yeah. And all of your leggings are wet.

Speaker F 0:33:14 No, I had shorts on, was freezing, put sweatshirt on and joggers, and then I've changed back. Yeah. And I'm sweating now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:21 What can you do?

Speaker H 0:33:22 But yeah, got some, yeah, looking forward to having a little chill.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:25 Lovely for the garden though. That's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker F 0:33:27 Yes. Yeah. I mean, my grass is still fucked. I'm gonna go ask for sure. I'm sick of it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:32 Are you?

Speaker F 0:33:32 I have to.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:33 Do you remember the last time I was about grass paddling poles and you were talking about the lead? Listen to this, bud. Not bud. Sorry, I'm gonna have to do that again.

Speaker F 0:33:42 Please leave it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:43 No, I can't. I can't.

Speaker F 0:33:45 Why?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:45 No, no. It's derogatory.

Speaker F 0:33:47 No. Why? Why are you—

Speaker H 0:33:48 Well, Em, you decide.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:50 You decide.

Speaker F 0:33:50 Why is bud derogatory though?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:53 Birds.

Speaker F 0:33:54 Yeah, but what does it mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:58 Flappy little chirping away. I don't think it's very nice.

Speaker F 0:34:08 No, that's like rabbit, rabbit, flappy little chirpy. I mean, what is going on? Is it because we lay eggs? No, we don't lay eggs.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:18 Emma, RoRo revelation number 4. Stick that in your file.

Speaker F 0:34:24 Didn't mean to come out.

Speaker H 0:34:25 Informal colloquial slang for a woman or girlfriend. Why? Uh, the term likely traces back to the Middle English word bird, which was used to refer to a noblewoman or young maiden.

Speaker J 0:34:38 Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Speaker F 0:34:42 What? Bird. Bird. Bird's the word.

Speaker H 0:34:47 Don't you know about the bird?

Speaker F 0:34:49 Um, I was thinking my king bird. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:54 Don't know what that is. No.

Speaker F 0:34:58 My king bird, don't ever. Oh, uh, anywho, so it doesn't really tell us.

Speaker H 0:35:04 It's now considered objectifying or patronising.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:07 There you are.

Speaker H 0:35:08 But hopefully your mate, what's her name?

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:09 Don't know her name yet, but listen to this. It's all about the lead on the paddling pool pump.

Speaker H 0:35:14 Maybe she can let us know what she thinks of being called bird. Yes, at least it's not Big Bird. True, you've been called that a couple of times.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:22 I know, I'm just listening to the Nat's Nieces episode talking about the, um, short lead electronic blow-up things. I don't know what you call them, my brain's frazzled today, but it reminded me of a memory that I must have locked away. I went camping one year and I was staying in my van and I wanted to blow up my mattress, and I only had an electric pump that I had to plug in, and I really didn't have it in me to manually blow it up with my manual one. So I went into a pub and asked if I could blow it up in there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:59 And again, because the lead was so short, the only bit I could do it was right in front of the TV where they were playing the World Cup. Ouch. I was blowing the mattress up. it got bigger and bigger and bigger and it just covered the entire TV. Brilliant.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:15 No! It was quite an old pub, quite low ceilings or whatever, and I'm just there like, oh my God, I wanted the ground to swallow me up. And then I'm trying to battle this mattress outside of this little worldy pub in Wales. And, uh, yeah, mortified. But, you know, I laugh about it now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:35 Well, I laughed about it then. I just found the whole thing hilarious. Yes. Couldn't really do anything else but laugh, to be honest. No, I bet the people watching the fucking World Cup weren't laughing.

Speaker H 0:36:43 But I love that she still just carried on. Yes. Not like, oh, I'll take it out now.

Speaker F 0:36:48 But if that had been back in the day, there would've been a little cigarette hole stamped right into that.

Speaker H 0:36:56 I mean, she's there. I bet they were cursing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:58 I wonder how long it took. Hopefully it was a quick one.

Speaker F 0:37:01 That is, because it was a plug. Talking of Leeds. I was saying about organising the kids' party. I'm, for Alfie, I'm thinking of like, this is really bad. I hate myself, but they'll love it. It's only an hour. A gaming bus that comes outside your house.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:16 Yeah.

Speaker F 0:37:16 And they've said to me, we've got a 100-meter foot-long, 100-meter foot-long lead.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:22 Metres and feet are different, terms of measure.

Speaker F 0:37:25 A very long lead they've got.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:27 Yep.

Speaker F 0:37:27 And they need to plug it in, in my house.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:29 Well, yeah. Where else are they gonna plug it in?

Speaker F 0:37:33 That's weird though, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:34 What do you want him to do, bring a generator along as well?

Speaker H 0:37:36 I can bring a generator. Well, yeah, where do you want him to fucking stick it?

Speaker F 0:37:41 I know.

Speaker H 0:37:42 But yeah, it's a piss take because you're paying for that, then you're paying for the electricity. You tell them to just come in and all. They'll probably want a cup of tea as well.

Speaker F 0:37:50 I thought—

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:50 She loves doing a cup of tea for everyone.

Speaker H 0:37:52 And you'll need to get a permit.

Speaker F 0:37:53 Yes, I will.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:55 And not just one permit for that. Can you imagine?

Speaker F 0:37:56 Yeah, no, I'm not doing one then. themselves. And then I thought, could I not just set up a few TVs in my house and do it for free? One with the PlayStation.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:07 No, you're not doing that one. I'm not doing that.

Speaker F 0:38:09 Also, talking of just permits and councils. Yep. Someone has stolen my food bin.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:17 What do you expect? Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Speaker F 0:38:21 Why? Does it not have your number on it? No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:23 You haven't got a number on it? No. I've got no, absolutely.

Speaker F 0:38:27 How'd you put a number on it? I've got no—

Speaker H 0:38:29 Buy a sticker? I've stopped thinking. I don't know I've got no, uh, interest. Sympathy.

Speaker F 0:38:35 Sympathy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:35 I've got no sympathy for you at all.

Speaker F 0:38:37 That's not nice.

Speaker H 0:38:38 And also, my bin got— but I didn't stick the number on it. My number was on my big bin.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:43 Oh, I think probably Jack's done it for you.

Speaker H 0:38:45 No, we've never bought number stickers.

Speaker F 0:38:48 I've got no numbers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:50 No, you've gotta put numbers on.

Speaker F 0:38:52 It's outside my house, Natalie. Who is taking my bin? Do you know what? It happened a little while ago and I went round the street, I found a spare bin and I took it.

Speaker H 0:39:00 Wow. Wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:01 So you're stealing someone else's?

Speaker F 0:39:03 Because someone took mine. So I saw one left out, it was there for a few days, so I thought I'll maybe—

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:07 Stop there a minute. Just stay there. Keep that info. Stealing. What's the name of the title? Stealing bins.

Speaker F 0:39:16 So a few weeks ago I went out, or a month or so, my bin wasn't there. Weird. The little brown one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:23 Yeah, I know.

Speaker F 0:39:24 Don't use it. Next day Little mooch around. There's a little, little bin all on its own. So I thought, I'll take it. I knew it weren't my bin 'cause it was scratched up. My bin didn't look like that. But I thought, beggars can't be choosers. Now my bin is gone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:39 Well, maybe that person— The person has realised.

Speaker F 0:39:42 So where's my bin?

Speaker H 0:39:43 That's not— For someone else. That's not their problem. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Speaker F 0:39:47 So I email the council. Yep. She says, I've ordered you a new bin. It's gonna take 3 weeks.

Speaker H 0:39:54 3 weeks.

Speaker F 0:39:54 I said, so what am I doing with said food bags? She said, I'll just put it in another bin.

Speaker H 0:40:01 Oh no, she didn't. Could you not just leave the food bags out? Oh yeah, the foxes will lap that up.

Speaker F 0:40:09 No, I can't do that. So I'm thinking what I'll do is I'll put 'em in a plastic bag.

Speaker H 0:40:14 Yep.

Speaker F 0:40:14 Inside one of my other bins.

Speaker H 0:40:16 Yep.

Speaker F 0:40:17 Then use my little green bin that I have inside. Yes. And put that out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:21 Yeah, you could do that.

Speaker F 0:40:22 Isn't that, yeah, great. A lot of work. So I actually I might just put 'em in, in the old fucking bin. How about that one?

Speaker H 0:40:27 Yeah, just put— she's told you to do it.

Speaker F 0:40:29 She said put it in the purple bin. Yeah. Which says no food. Yeah. On the sticker.

Speaker H 0:40:35 Well, that just shows it's all a load of bollocks.

Speaker F 0:40:37 But that's bad, isn't it? Who's taking bins? So annoying. People that have been stolen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:43 People like you. People like you. That's—

Speaker H 0:40:46 you're not a binfluencer, you're a bin robber.

Speaker F 0:40:49 Oh shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:51 I like to.

Speaker H 0:40:52 No, I'm just saying. Oh, it's not meant to be funny. It's just what it is. You rob the bins. You're not influencing anyone. You're just someone, and you're now in a cycle. Mm-hmm.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:02 And now the whole of Ware are just stealing bins.

Speaker F 0:41:04 I understand, but we, we are missing the point. Someone took my bin in the first instance. No, I know. It's weird. I'm not missing the point. You know where you put your bin. You know where my bin is. Why are you taking my bin?

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:13 Could it have been a windy day? Because we, you know, we do get strong winds around here.

Speaker F 0:41:18 I don't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:18 You do?

Speaker F 0:41:19 No, I don't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:20 Well, we do, don't we?

Speaker F 0:41:22 Yeah. Fucking bins all over the gaff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:25 Honestly, bin juice everywhere.

Speaker F 0:41:27 Oh, bin juice. And I clean them and I clean mine. So someone's got my nice clean unscratched bin. Fucking— well, you've got a nice brand new one coming.

Speaker H 0:41:35 You had to pay for it? No, I have not. Oh, fair play.

Speaker F 0:41:38 They said they were gonna have to pay for them.

Speaker H 0:41:40 These—

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:40 did you have to give evidence?

Speaker F 0:41:42 What?

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:45 That your bin's gone?

Speaker F 0:41:46 I'm not lying. I want— do you know what? I've got 6 bins. I, I quite fancy a What, a picture of the floor?

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:52 In my head I'm thinking, can I, you know, get another? I'd love a couple. He's gonna know. What, should I pretend?

Speaker F 0:41:58 But why do you want more bins?

Speaker H 0:41:59 You can't put more. They're very small, aren't they? Yeah, but you can't put more than one out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:03 How are they gonna fucking know if there's 8 down the end of the road? Could be Tom, Dick, Harry, Jills, whoever's.

Speaker H 0:42:09 That's cracking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:11 Oh, my email. Fucking know now.

Speaker H 0:42:14 What about on your Ring doorbell?

Speaker F 0:42:17 Oh my, do you know what? I can't because I've only just subscribed.

Speaker H 0:42:23 Oh, she's a dick. So, 'cause you couldn't look back. I had the free one, I couldn't look back. Gutted. You might have seen a little— I bet you're on someone else's as well. You've not thought about that.

Speaker F 0:42:36 Oh, she'll be on Spotted soon.

Speaker H 0:42:38 Well, the little girl, bless her, knocked on my door the other day. I thought, why is she knocking on my door? She was like, excuse me, is that your car? Your boot's open. Oh, bless her.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:47 Bless her heart.

Speaker F 0:42:48 So cute. Her dad was waiting, bless her. She's obviously said, oh, I'll go and do it, Daddy. Oh, cute.

Speaker H 0:42:54 Irresponsible. Like, you've probably— Maybe your bin's in there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:58 Maybe, yeah, your bin's in the boot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:31 Going back to Summer, you've put something on here. Mm-hmm. Uh, Tracy Bright has sent you a picture, and she said, send help, this needs Nat's nieces on the case. WTF, I cannot cope with this. And from what I can see, it says there is a new Summerween range that has arrived at Asda.

Speaker H 0:46:00 Is it real? Yep, I saw a girl put it up saying, I need all of this.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:05 And then there is a new Summerween collection in Primark. How I can explain it to you listeners is Halloween but in pastel colours. Boo! Pastel pumpkins for summer.

Speaker H 0:46:18 I don't get it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:20 What's going on?

Speaker F 0:46:20 I replied saying, running to Asda.

Speaker H 0:46:24 No, no, no. Come on. I mean that. I hope nobody buys it. Surely nobody's buying any of that. What for?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:32 They've made it up. They've made it up.

Speaker H 0:46:35 Summerween. It's inventive. Doesn't even make sense.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:38 It doesn't. It doesn't sound good.

Speaker F 0:46:40 'Cause Halloween isn't about the time of year.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:43 No, it's Hallow's Eve. It all comes from witching and—

Speaker F 0:46:46 It's not about— it's— no. Yeah, it's not autumnween. I get sucked into things, but that's a no from me. Like, why do you want a ghost in summer?

Speaker H 0:46:56 I mean, why'd you wanna ghost anytime?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:58 But I'm sorry, I just can't. It's wild madness.

Speaker F 0:47:02 Yeah, I cannot.

Speaker H 0:47:03 Is anyone—

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:04 is anyone—

Speaker F 0:47:05 The girl that fucking has a door decorated.

Speaker H 0:47:08 Why don't you get a Summerween door? Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:11 Is anyone buying Summerween things? Please, 07788 20 1919. Have you bought something for Summerween? Send me a photo.

Speaker H 0:47:22 I'm gonna say the only time that I think this could be acceptable Let's say your daughter is 7, 8, 9, 10, and is obsessed with Halloween. So Ariana. And it's also her birthday. Oh, it's her birthday. So it's her birthday on June the 20th, and she is like Halloween mad, loves it. A little party or a little few presents, maybe you would do that for your children.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:50 Ariana is obsessed. That's her favourite thing, Halloween.

Speaker H 0:47:53 Well, you better go to Asda and get her some bits.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:55 No, but I wonder if it'll be interesting to see She could just wait for Halloween. She probably will.

Speaker H 0:48:01 But I'm saying if it was the birthday and, and they're having a little tea party and they think, oh, we'll do it a summerween vibe, still a bit of a disgrace in my opinion. Yes. But you'd do anything for your kids.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:11 But that, there's a lot of steps to get to going to buy that. But I agree with you.

Speaker F 0:48:15 Also though, as a business, who's laying down money for that thinking that it is gonna sell?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:23 They're sat in a room going, I've got a great idea.

Speaker F 0:48:25 Well, no, not the people, but I'm saying they've got— We could have—

Speaker H 0:48:28 we could do Christmas in summer then, is what we're saying. We could have Santa Claus laying on a beach with a mankini on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:35 Bring it on, I'm ready for it.

Speaker F 0:48:38 Summer Claus.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:39 Summer Claus. It's only— it's about 198 days now. Father Summer. It's only 198 days or something to Christmas.

Speaker F 0:48:47 Why'd you know that, Natalia?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:48 Um, because you sent me one saying 200 days 2 days ago. Oh, she went, what did she— her reply was not, this is stressing me out.

Speaker F 0:48:59 How am I gonna do all this? Oh, I just sit back and violin.

Speaker H 0:49:03 Yeah, it is a disgrace though. It's gonna be a really bad time.

Speaker F 0:49:07 For her, not for us.

Speaker H 0:49:09 No, we could be cracking it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:10 It'll be all right.

Speaker H 0:49:10 Well, no little drink nights, nothing though. No little nights, nothing boring.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:18 What's gonna be funny is when we are recording Christmas podcasts next week.

Speaker F 0:49:22 Funny for who?

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:24 No, tomorrow I might do one. I might sit on my own and do one about Christmas.

Speaker F 0:49:27 Don't ruin it for the listeners, 'cause I would not listen, 'cause it's bullshit. So don't worry, guys.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:32 No, it's— Yeah, true. Fair enough.

Speaker F 0:49:37 Well, no, but it depends on you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:38 'Cause I will be saying it. I'll be saying it's June, and I'm gonna be busy, so I'm gonna crack on. All right, and what are you gonna talk about?

Speaker F 0:49:43 Oh, this Christmas, I'm really enjoying it. It's really cold.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:45 No, but Christmas is a feast. And talk about things. Oh, freezing.

Speaker F 0:49:53 Oh, those Christmas crackers that I bought the other day. I've made my mince. She won't be making anything.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:02 Nothing, nothing, dead, nothing.

Speaker F 0:50:05 Merry Christmas. No, it'll be good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:10 Let Maria know Milton tablets are good for paddling pools. Joanne from Chelmsford, what a cracker.

Speaker F 0:50:15 Oh, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:16 Well, I didn't ever think of that. That's a great idea. Really? Just pop one of those in.

Speaker F 0:50:19 Well, and let the kids play in it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:21 I think one for a large paddling pool's probably all right. I mean, we might have to look it up, Joanne, but it sounds like a good idea to me.

Speaker H 0:50:28 Well, no, because when you sterilise the bottles and stuff in Milton, you don't rinse them after. No. That's the idea. So then you're pouring the milk into a Milton-infested bottle. Oh, I love that smell. I love Milton.

Speaker F 0:50:40 And then I love the smell of the formula going into the Milton bottle, that whole combination. Lovely.

Speaker H 0:50:46 It is. Jack hated the Milton. Really? I really enjoy it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:49 I still, I've got Milton tablets downstairs. I still use it.

Speaker H 0:50:52 I use the Milton spray, but it's a bit minty. Oh, I don't like the spray. Yeah. But it does what it needs to do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:57 Does what it says on the tin. Cleans the side, doesn't it?

Speaker H 0:51:00 No, just changes the texture. Yeah, I was about to say spray.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:02 I've got big news for you, Elia, 'cause I know you love her. Just so you know, Jo Frost, Super Nanny. Yeah. Messaged her about being on the pod.

Speaker H 0:51:12 She's messaging me straight back.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:13 Yeah, of course. And she messaged me straight back and said, hi, Nat, I'm away at the moment. We'll get back to you.

Speaker H 0:51:18 Aw. I love Jo Frost.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:20 I do too. I know she's a very divided person, but I like her views.

Speaker H 0:51:25 Me too. Excellent. Super nanny.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:28 You've said 4 times, probably over the last month on different messaging services that we're all a part of, people staring you up and down, no shits given. Please tell me what it's about, because you keep repeating the same sentence.

Speaker F 0:51:41 Because I cannot believe— I can't get over it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:44 What?

Speaker F 0:51:45 The way that people look me up and down.

Speaker H 0:51:48 Maybe they think you look like a bag of shit.

Speaker F 0:51:51 Okay, that's fair, but could you not do it? Why do you do it so obvious? I was at Liverpool Street Station, this woman literally walked towards me and just looked at me.

Speaker H 0:52:01 Yeah, no, it does happen.

Speaker F 0:52:03 I fucking hate it. I was turning around, I thought, hey, but like nothing. She said, are you okay? That's so obvious. But I do get it a lot. I get it all the time. I could just be walking down the street and I can just see people's eyes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:14 Are you wearing your fishnet ankle tights?

Speaker F 0:52:17 No, actually, I haven't worn them in a while.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:19 Fair do's.

Speaker H 0:52:20 Because that, with like shorts and then them funny shoes.

Speaker F 0:52:23 Such a knob. The old ganny ones. No, but do you know, I, yeah, I, I'm very aware of it. I dunno what it is.

Speaker H 0:52:34 No, I feel like I've noticed that a couple of times actually in the old little toddler groups as well.

Speaker F 0:52:40 It's just the eyes. I'm sure we all do it, but be a bit more discreet about it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:45 No, I get it when I drop Eliza to school. People in their cars are so rude. I can't get over it.

Speaker H 0:52:52 What do you mean? It's just rude.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:54 No one says goodbye. No one says goodbye. Goodbye, my lover. No one says thank you.

Speaker H 0:52:59 What's that? It's not the same. That's just pure rudeness. It's rude.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:04 But today, when I got on the train this morning, it was a very busy train. And you know, you have your seats of 3 and 3. There was a woman by the window, a lovely elderly man on the end reading his Kindle, and there was a space in the middle with her bag on.

Speaker H 0:53:20 You got in the middle?

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:21 Absolutely. Twice? I'm not standing up. No, it was fine. But I've got—

Speaker H 0:53:24 Was it busy?

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:25 Was a bit busy, yeah. No, I just decided to sit in the middle and sandwich myself between 2 strangers, 'cause I like doing that. She's a warrior.

Speaker F 0:53:35 I don't think I'd bring myself to do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:38 Oh, I don't care. So anyway, I've got it. I said, excuse me, the woman—

Speaker F 0:53:42 Get the amp.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:43 Oh, moved her bag.

Speaker H 0:53:48 It's not an office, love.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:50 I just looked and I was like— That's what I just said.

Speaker H 0:53:52 We're not in your office now.

Speaker F 0:53:53 However, I will say, sometimes if I'm on the train, I've got my bag next to me and there's loads of seats, and then some fucker wants to come and sit next to me and ask me to move my bag. Why are you coming to sit next to me?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:04 Because they want to sit on that seat. That your, your seat is not for a bag.

Speaker F 0:54:07 Okay, I appreciate that, but there's loads of other seats. Why are you coming in my grill?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:12 Maybe they like you. Maybe they wanna be close to you.

Speaker H 0:54:15 Yeah, no, that would—

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:17 but yeah, I just found it so—

Speaker F 0:54:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, what are you huffing for?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:21 Bizarre. It was really busy. It's selfish to put your bag on a seat. You said it was a top seat.

Speaker F 0:54:27 Yeah. But you should move if you—

Speaker H 0:54:29 I would, if people are getting on you. Yeah. I move it. Yeah. So that you're sort of opening up. Don't worry.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:34 And also, people need to medicate for their hay fever. I'm sorry. Right. My hay fever's bad. We've spoken about it enough. It's boring, but I keep myself topped up. You've been alright this year. I've been— this year? You're fucking joking.

Speaker F 0:54:51 What's wrong? Your face is all right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:54 No, I'm, I'm— She's been awful. This week's been excellent. I dunno. Yeah. Touch wood. It's been good.

Speaker F 0:54:59 Look at my neck again.

Speaker H 0:55:01 That's not hay fever. Yeah, it is. It's all allergies. But you get that in the winter.

Speaker F 0:55:06 No, I don't.

Speaker H 0:55:07 Yes, you have.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:08 You have had it in, in colder months. Are you sure? For real? But that, it's all allergy. It's all allergy based. We know this now. However, I keep up with my FlexiFem.

Speaker H 0:55:16 You do know there's quite a, some sort of virus cold and flu, maybe a strain of COVID going around, and then people are wiped.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:24 Really?

Speaker H 0:55:25 Yes.

Speaker F 0:55:26 What are they doing?

Speaker H 0:55:27 Because maybe you think it's—

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:29 I thought I'm gonna fucking kill someone in here. No one's got a tissue either. No one's got a tissue.

Speaker F 0:55:37 Just like the back of their hand.

Speaker H 0:55:39 No, well then that's not hay fever, that's illness.

Speaker F 0:55:42 You should have said, you a bit bunged up? I've got a trick drop to help you out. A human.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:47 Oh, stop. That's awful. But no, in all seriousness, listen, I sound like a pug all year round. I'm not saying that, but the constant sniffling. Yeah, or move away a little bit.

Speaker H 0:55:57 It is a bit—

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:57 Oh, it's disgusting. What time did you get on the train? I got the 9:07.

Speaker F 0:56:03 And it was that busy?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:05 Yeah, it was busy. Yep.

Speaker H 0:56:07 I was listening to a radio show today, Yep. They were talking about sort of harassment and stuff, and this woman called in and she said, I was on a train once and I could see— sorry, I'm like lowering the tone a bit, but I thought it was a nice little piece of advice. She saw a bit of an altercation with a man and a woman. The woman was clearly a bit uncomfortable. This guy was, you know, and instead of just jumping in and sort of saying, oi, mate, she went up to the woman and said, oh, I love your bag.

Speaker F 0:56:36 Oh, did she?

Speaker H 0:56:37 And she started having a conversation. That's really good. And I thought that I really like that. That's what you should do.

Speaker F 0:56:41 Be like, oh, hi. I haven't seen you for ages.

Speaker H 0:56:43 Yeah, and pretend that you know. And that's what I thought she was going to say.

Speaker F 0:56:46 Yeah.

Speaker H 0:56:47 But that's a good one to be like, oh my God, I've not seen you for so long, to sort of break it up without pointing at the person.

Speaker F 0:56:53 I did it on a tube once. Did you? A girl was really drunk and she was sitting there like falling asleep and these guys were looking at her. So I went and sat down next to her and I said, are you all right? And I just sat with her until she— they got off, I think. Then she got— I don't know. Awful.

Speaker H 0:57:09 But yeah, I just thought that was a really good way to intervene, to be, you know, sort of like you said, change the narrative.

Speaker F 0:57:15 And also brave for her to put herself in that situation.

Speaker H 0:57:17 I know, but I think that's the thing of you don't want to do it, but when you do it in that way, you're not confronting that person or trying to cause a problem. You're going in with a different, you know, what can that person say if you're saying, oh, how are you? I've not seen you for ages. And apparently when she said about the bag, straight away the woman knew what, like, she was doing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:40 That's very, very good. And I do believe now in PHSE and lessons, all of this sort of stuff is being taught, which is fabulous.

Speaker H 0:57:46 Yeah, no, I really like that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:46 You know, there's a lot more safety for women and, and stuff being taught in school, which is very, very good. Um, talking of schools and stuff like that and policies— oh, aren't we highbrow? Fuck me, move over, the rest is fucking— what's it called? The rest is, um, nose. Can't remember.

Speaker H 0:58:04 What? And the rest is history.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:06 No.

Speaker H 0:58:07 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:07 Move over, the rest is politics. Keir Starmer. Keir Starmer this week, he said he's going to do the social media ban for under-16s.

Speaker H 0:58:15 When? About time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:17 Well, he said— Imminently. Imminently he's going to, yeah. I've read it.

Speaker H 0:58:22 But he's given the tech companies the opportunity to sort their shit out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:27 Yes, they have. And he's given them 3 months.

Speaker H 0:58:30 So I don't really— so is that different?

Speaker F 0:58:32 I've read a lot of comments.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:34 There's stuff about the tech companies, I believe, for the 3-month thing about nudity online and sharing nude images. But obviously Australia have done it.

Speaker F 0:58:42 And all the comments were like, and 70% of people still— I think it's 60.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:47 I listened to LBC yesterday and I believe, I think it's 40% of people aren't using.

Speaker H 0:58:52 But the point is—

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:54 There's still 40% of people being more protected. But the point is, that's ridiculous.

Speaker H 0:58:58 That's like saying, uh, people take drugs, but let's make 'em all legal. Well, no, you have to put something in place. Yes. If people can find a way around that, unfortunately that's—

Speaker F 0:59:08 I know, but why are, how are they? Why are they?

Speaker H 0:59:10 Well, because that's just life, isn't it? That's like anything that we do. VPNs. VPNs. People are still going to break the law or do things they shouldn't. But you, you know, you can, A, it gives parents a strong case to say absolutely not.

Speaker F 0:59:22 I don't think parents, oh yeah, no.

Speaker H 0:59:24 No, but it does, it backs them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:26 It's that I wish I'd, if I'd have had that I know that you say that, but then do the—

Speaker F 0:59:31 there'll still be X amount of percent of kids that will have it, and then they'll gang up, and then they'll—

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:36 No, but there will be, because it's illegal, right? It's different. The parents— because parents will say, well, no, it's illegal.

Speaker F 0:59:43 But a lot of parents won't.

Speaker H 0:59:44 No, but a lot of parents will. A lot of parents will.

Speaker F 0:59:46 No, I know. And then a lot of kids will still— like, kids like underage drinking. We all did it. Yeah, but that's the point. And a lot of parents let their children do it at house parties.

Speaker H 0:59:54 No, of course. But you're still—

Speaker F 0:59:56 No, I'm all for it.

Speaker H 0:59:58 I'm just saying But just because that's not why you don't do it, you don't then say, oh, we actually, if we make it illegal, people are gonna fall through the net, so we won't do it. No, let's do it. And if people fall, if people's parents—

Speaker F 1:00:11 But they need to make it so it needs to be harder that people can't find a way around it.

Speaker H 1:00:14 And also, people will always find a way around stuff. Of course.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:17 But yeah, but they are gonna look into it apparently. I think today something's happened. I can't tell you the figures, but they're investing, I think it's into AI to sort of, look, they're doing—

Speaker H 1:00:29 They need to start somewhere. Well. And then they can hopefully tighten it.

Speaker F 1:00:32 It's really hard for him.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:32 He has been failing since he became Prime Minister. And because of all this stuff with Andy Burnham and the Mayfields, all of what's going on, he seems to have had a rocket shoved up his arsehole. Oh, oh. So suddenly there's just a few things that he's doing, which is good. It's a good thing.

Speaker F 1:00:47 Yeah, but they all do things to get people on their side anyway.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:50 Well, crikey.

Speaker H 1:00:50 Oh yeah, he needs to do something.

Speaker F 1:00:51 Then I did read some comments earlier of people saying, like, oh, I, because of my sexuality, if I didn't have social media, I would've felt so alone. Da da da. So it's a real— Yes. Your heart is a weird one, isn't it? I do.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:04 I understand.

Speaker F 1:01:04 I look, I don't, yeah. I, under a certain age, I don't really care.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:07 For me, I'm talking about, but for me, I'm talking about 11-year-old children, 10-year-old children that have TikTok and Instagram accounts, which isn't even all right now. It should be 13+.

Speaker F 1:01:18 Why 13+?

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:20 Same thing. So Instagram and TikTok are 13+. We still have children now that are 10 and 9.

Speaker F 1:01:25 So there we go. Haven't it? Well, there we go.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:27 But I think it would just bring in a conversation and make people feel a little bit more comfortable in saying no. And that's, that's all you can do.

Speaker H 1:01:34 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker F 1:01:35 I hope so, but I, I dunno. I think it's a bit, it's a bit too late.

Speaker H 1:01:38 Well, no, but it will because it's not gonna be easy to get round it.

Speaker F 1:01:41 Why is it not?

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:42 I think they're looking at different things to do. I'm, I'm not sure how I'm gonna tell you. I'm assuming you have to upload ID. I mean, there's huge— So you're, as a parent, you're gonna go and buy a fake ID.

Speaker H 1:01:52 Well then, I'm sorry.

Speaker F 1:01:53 No, but there's kids that have fake IDs anyway. get alcohol or do this or do that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:57 Yeah, but they're 14, 15. We're not talking about 13-year-olds. 13-year-olds are not getting fake ID.

Speaker H 1:02:03 Has Eliza got a fake ID? No.

Speaker F 1:02:05 You better not go clubbing. No, I, I— We weren't going out at that age.

Speaker H 1:02:08 No, Maria, times have changed. It is changed. They sit on their phones.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:12 Yeah.

Speaker H 1:02:13 It's very different. They sit on TikTok. So what are they gonna do then? What are they gonna do now? Maybe have a conversation.

Speaker F 1:02:18 All the best.

Speaker H 1:02:19 Play a game like we used to do.

Speaker F 1:02:21 Yeah, but, but so you're telling me all these 13, 12-year-olds that have got it now, their parents are just gonna take it away from them?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:28 Well, it's gonna be huge for them. Yeah. 'Cause they're severely addicted to it.

Speaker F 1:02:31 That's mad.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:31 So it's gonna be hard. I'm, I'm sort of lucky.

Speaker F 1:02:35 Yeah. Unlucky. You've got to deal with it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:36 Unlucky for Eliza because unfortunately she's had it and I wish she hadn't, but that's the era she was in. They're the years we've gone through, which is a shame 'cause she's been unlucky, but she will be 16 in September by the time I'm 17. But she might have a time without it.

Speaker F 1:02:50 She won't.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:52 No, no, I don't think she will. It's true. Well, even if it— but even if it was August, I mean, I don't— if it's something that you have to get or you have to go through hoops with, I wouldn't do it. I'd say we have to wait a month.

Speaker H 1:03:06 Yeah, I wouldn't be—

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:06 I'd just say you have to bloody wait. Um, and I still think she's too young. 16.

Speaker F 1:03:13 Well, listen, You think he's too young, 16?

Speaker H 1:03:17 Yeah. Really?

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:20 I dunno. You can vote though at 16. You can have sex at 16. You're considered—

Speaker H 1:03:25 You can't drink, you can't drive.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:26 No, but you're considered, I mean, to vote for the political state of the country at 16 and to have sex. We need someone to vote. And to get married. I don't. You can get married. It's quite a—

Speaker F 1:03:39 Yeah, you should be able to have social media.

Speaker H 1:03:41 Yeah, no, I just think for your brain mentally. Oh yeah. I still don't think your brain is— It's not fully developed. You're not, you're not, you know, on how to take in something. Your brain isn't fully developed.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:51 I should know that. That was an exam question. It's like really late. It's 20s. It's late.

Speaker F 1:03:59 Yeah. Well, I, yeah, well, I knew. Yeah. 'Cause your care documentary, it was mentioned in that, wasn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:03 It's really good.

Speaker H 1:04:03 I finished it, by the way. Oh, you did? Yeah. I put the last bit today. Really good.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:06 Ah, bless you.

Speaker H 1:04:06 The last 2 or 3 were probably my faves.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:09 Yeah. And mine. And mine.

Speaker H 1:04:10 Really nice.

Speaker F 1:04:11 The couple got me. Oh yeah.

Speaker H 1:04:13 They were very good. And that's actually the thing, I say that, you watch each one, there's bits of it that you're like, oh no, I did love that.

Speaker F 1:04:20 Definitely. And just, and the old, in the old, the dementia.

Speaker H 1:04:22 Alan. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:23 Alan the baker.

Speaker F 1:04:25 Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker H 1:04:26 And Monica. He was so cheeky, Alan.

Speaker F 1:04:28 Yeah, I love it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:29 Really cheeky.

Speaker H 1:04:30 Yeah, and to be fair, when you went to, when you played basketball. Oh yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:37 Galanis' house. Oh no, not Galanis.

Speaker H 1:04:39 The, with the— Battle back. Yeah. Battleback, that was really nice.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:43 Yeah. Lovely Gordon.

Speaker H 1:04:45 Yeah, really lovely. Yeah, no, the whole thing was brilliant. Well done. Thanks much.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:49 Yeah, no, it's had a great, as I said to you, yeah, people are still watching. And you got a distinction.

Speaker H 1:04:53 I know.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:54 That surprised me on the old loose swimming, didn't they?

Speaker F 1:04:56 Yes. I did that, I didn't believe it. I didn't watch it. I haven't seen that.

Speaker H 1:05:00 Well, I was confused. I said, but you've got a merit.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:02 So I got a merit for my exam.

Speaker H 1:05:04 But then?

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:05 And then all in with the assignment, I made a distinction. Well done. Thank you.

Speaker F 1:05:08 Congratulations.

Speaker H 1:05:09 Yeah, so good.

Speaker F 1:05:10 But yeah, I dunno. Yeah, funny old world. But hopefully when our kids are that age, it's more instilled and—

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:16 Although you, you won't be having all this. It'd be great.

Speaker F 1:05:19 We say that though.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:20 No, I think it will be good. I think there'll be block phones. It'll be different. I mean, even block phones. There'll be other things that you'll be worrying about. Of course. But even block phones now are coming in. Even Gen Zs are now using block phones and stuff that, that, that's getting more and more common. Common and fashionable.

Speaker F 1:05:35 It's just a shame though, isn't it? 'Cause it's more just about the content and these fucking morons that are putting the content on there.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:41 And, and the— 'cause there's no need, is there? tech companies that are allowing it to be on there.

Speaker F 1:05:45 Yes. That's the bit I can't get my head round.

Speaker H 1:05:46 Yeah. Well, look at the skincare stuff. I mean, that's a whole nother story. Probably a topic for another day.

Speaker F 1:05:51 But again, that's not, it's not rocket science, is it? All these kids have got terrible skin.

Speaker H 1:05:55 I know, but they all allow their children to do it. I don't get it. It's mad.

Speaker F 1:05:58 It's mad.

Speaker H 1:05:59 I know I don't have a daughter of that age, but I, I am pretty certain I'll be not.

Speaker F 1:06:04 Especially 'cause you've gone through a bit of— Being allowing.

Speaker H 1:06:06 Yeah. Well, I feel— My 10-year-old daughter to be having Cleansers, toners, serums at 10. Absolutely no way. I used to use baby wipes, Johnson's baby wipes. Then I might have moved to like Simple cleansing wipes for years. And ever since I stopped using them and started actually using cleansers and stuff at probably 18, 19 was when my skin went terrible.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:29 Well, look at like, I think for me, I'm not saying that's the best thing I used, but I feel like Eliza Again, it's your first one, you don't really know. I think she started using lotions and potions at about 12.

Speaker F 1:06:41 That's mad.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:42 And, you know, her skin hasn't been brilliant. And now I won't— a lot— Joni will not have a thing. And Joni has friends now at 9 who do a whole skincare routine. Mad. Like 8 steps. And also they're not even wearing makeup. Where are you getting that?

Speaker H 1:06:56 Who's buying it for you?

Speaker F 1:06:58 Also, you're not wearing makeup, like your skin's—

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:00 No, but they're watching these kids on the thing and they wanna be like them. They're watching TikTok.

Speaker H 1:07:04 Yeah. I can't understand.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:05 It's, it's mad. It's, it's crazy stuff.

Speaker H 1:07:08 Cleansers, toners, this, that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:10 Masks. They're putting all the masks on. I know. I mean, I, I've just bought myself some masks for the first time in my life. I'm 43.

Speaker H 1:07:17 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:18 But that is the thing.

Speaker H 1:07:19 And you're not really, you weren't even really doing it. And Eliza is. It's mad.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:23 Yeah. And that's true.

Speaker H 1:07:24 Yeah. No, it's way too young. These poor, all these kids, their skin are just gonna be—

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:29 I'm not joking. I'm talking they're 8 and 9.

Speaker H 1:07:32 I think anything, but I don't, I mean, what, yeah, but, but they're 8 to 9, 11 and 12. No. Still shocking.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:38 No, but I'm saying they're at primary school.

Speaker H 1:07:40 Yeah. That's crazy.

Speaker F 1:07:41 Just for me, I'm like, that is another thing to worry about. Cut to Ruby.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:47 Can you imagine her with her exfoliation? No, she won't be. Cucumbers. No, but she's a girly girl. No, she won't be. I know. She won't. But once she's— Well, no, she's lovely.

Speaker H 1:07:54 You can have natural, get some Aveeno. Yeah. Let her think she's doing But it. no, she won't be, I tell you.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:59 So they shouldn't even be worrying about that.

Speaker F 1:08:01 Why are you worrying about that? Wash your face. I know there's little things as a girl, like she'll watch me do my makeup and she'll get the brush and be like, do I look beautiful, Mum? I'm like, yes. But you're talking skincare.

Speaker H 1:08:12 This stuff is packed with— you're putting into this beautiful young skin. Disgusting. You don't need it. And then you're hearing, oh, well, it's all right, I'll just have laser. No, no. You're already saying, oh, it's all right, I'll just have it lasered. No, what do you— who's paying for that?

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:29 So they're saying cosmeticorexia, how girls are falling down a skincare rabbit hole.

Speaker H 1:08:35 I'm quite glad it's become a thing 'cause I feel like I've been saying it for ages.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:40 Yeah, it's a big thing. It's an obsession with achieving flawless skin from a very, very young age.

Speaker H 1:08:45 But instead they're just making it worse.

Speaker F 1:08:47 Yeah, and also what they're not realising is And I'm sure even I do it sometimes cuz I'm so paranoid about my under eyes.

Speaker H 1:08:53 Oh, God.

Speaker F 1:08:54 I see these girls on TikTok and stuff and I'm like, how have they, they've just got nothing there.

Speaker H 1:08:58 Because it's filters. Yeah. It's all filters.

Speaker F 1:09:00 I know, I know, I know. That's what I'm saying.

Natalie Cassidy 1:09:02 1,500 9 to 12-year-olds suggest that nearly half are using multiple skincare products weekly.

Speaker F 1:09:09 Yeah. It's messed up. And like you say, who's buying, how are they getting it? They're not getting it from their parents.

Speaker H 1:09:15 Well, and then it's bit— they've fallen into a trap of buying all this expensive skincare. Mm-hmm. But it's just destroyed. And you, and maybe these parents think they're doing the right thing and they're not. I think it's, I think it's terrible. Mm-hmm.

Natalie Cassidy 1:09:30 A lot of it is trends. A lot of it is not being left out. What your friends are getting, what your groups are doing. It's peer pressure all the time. Most of these things are.

Speaker F 1:09:38 I mean, and this is at their age, like, Like, I was getting bought toys and stuff. No, but we're not in the 1990s, babe. Yeah, I know, but—

Natalie Cassidy 1:09:47 No, I'm just saying that this is what world we're living in. It's very difficult for them. I know, but there's—

Speaker H 1:09:51 I know, but the parents, you're—

Speaker F 1:09:53 you've got control at that age.

Natalie Cassidy 1:09:54 So— Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's peer pressure. And they come home and they're crying and they want it and they're left out. And they go in the playground and they don't know what they're talking about. So they think, well, I better get it for them because otherwise they're left out. Yeah, it's mad. Peer pressure is mad. Anyway, we're over an hour.

Speaker F 1:10:08 Excellent.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:09 We're super duper. 07788 20 19 19. Let us know your thoughts on the ep. Lovely to see you both. And you. Hope you have a lovely evening.

Speaker F 1:10:17 You too. Thank you.

Speaker H 1:10:18 I've got a little bolognese at home that I made today, ready and waiting.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:22 Fantastic. I have done a little lamb shoulder in kind of a tomato and stock, and I'm adding butter beans and black beans to it.

Speaker H 1:10:29 Lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:30 A little bit of rice. Thank you. Ciao.

Speaker H 1:10:32 Chatbot. Chatbot. With rice. ChatGPT.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:36 Chatbot.

Speaker H 1:10:36 The rice thing is we— I said it was sauté potatoes. Yeah. Or, yeah, I'm not sure it's one for rice.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:42 Well, it says couscous, but I'm doing Joanie's couscous with hers now, 'cause she's starving.

Speaker F 1:10:49 Do you know what I like, which is really underrated?

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:51 Oh, she's gonna say mash with it.

Speaker F 1:10:52 No. Oh, that'd be good. Bulgur wheat.

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:55 I love bulgur wheat. Yeah, nice.

Speaker F 1:10:56 So good, innit?

Natalie Cassidy 1:10:57 Really nice.

Speaker F 1:10:57 Yeah, forget about that. What are you having for dinner?

Speaker H 1:10:59 I don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 1:11:01 Oh, really?

Speaker F 1:11:02 Yeah, I'm not sure.

Natalie Cassidy 1:11:03 Oh, fair enough.

Speaker F 1:11:04 Mash.

Speaker H 1:11:07 James loves mash.

Speaker F 1:11:09 Um, some sort of steaky thing with mash. Oh, nice.

Speaker H 1:11:12 Tuesday. Steak Tuesdays.

Natalie Cassidy 1:11:15 Anyway, there we go.

Speaker H 1:11:17 Peace out. Love you and leave us.

Speaker F 1:11:19 See you when we see you.

Natalie Cassidy 1:11:20 Love you and leave you. See you soon. Ciao.

Speaker F 1:11:22 Bye.