EP230: Nat’s Nieces #52 – Helping? Or offending?

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:01 Hello and welcome to Life with Nat, Nat's Nieces, on this super Thursday. Hope you're all good. Super sweaty Thursday. Um, it's actually Tuesday night.

RoRo 0:03:12 Tuesday. Oh yeah. And hottest day of the year wearing this, stuck in this room. Sorry guys, but I am gutted.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:19 not been happy about it today. No. It really put a dampener on my day.

RoRo 0:03:23 No, but you've been in the sun all day. I've been indoors working. So— I know, but just a lovely evening to sit out and— Let's get a move on and you can go and sit out. I'm gonna start by apologising. Yeah. I think you should. There's gonna be some coughing. The voice. My sticky shoe.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:42 Oh, she's so sexy. What a, what a trooper.

RoRo 0:03:44 No. I'm alright. I don't know what's going on. My face is— My favourite thing. The face is back.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:49 Yeah. The face is back. The face is back.

RoRo 0:03:51 The allergies are back in full swing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:54 Flying high. I do find this year there is a cough going on with the hay fever, which I've not experienced before.

RoRo 0:04:02 Yeah, I agree. Not great. I've been all right the last few days though.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:06 Can I just mention, if you can hear a little sound in the background, we've had to put the Dyson on because it's absolutely baking.

RoRo 0:04:13 We've got the fan on. Yeah, sorry guys, it's too hot in here. Is it doing anything for you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:17 It's a little something, isn't it? A little bit.

RoRo 0:04:19 It is so hot. We don't mean to moan, but it is. No, I'm not moaning. Do you know what? I've handled it really well. I've sat out there. You're embracing it, aren't you? And normally I can't cope, but I've done really well. Got a lovely little, little, well, I say colour, but I've got a bit of something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:36 No, it's been good. I've really enjoyed it. You did this morning when I said, I've got this to do, that to do, you said, it's gonna be cool again in a few days.

RoRo 0:04:43 But I just, you don't, I know, Maybe I'm wrong, but just enjoy it 'cause it's not here for long. We're working. Not you. This one. I got washing this, that. I mean, my, my house looks the pits 'cause I've done nothing. Also on that Saturday, the kids were at home, had the paddling pool out. So I was at home and I was cleaning floors. I was doing bits, but piles of ironing. I mean, that's not happening. Well, it's too hot though as well. Yeah. But I was saying it's gonna be cooler than like next week. Well, this is it. But I've got every week, I'm busy now. The foreseeable every weekend.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:17 Shock. Busy, busy, busy.

RoRo 0:05:19 So I dunno when things are gonna get done, but yeah, I'm the same. I was a bit like, sure, I don't care, I wanna enjoy the weather. Yesterday we were here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:26 It was nice, wasn't it?

RoRo 0:05:27 Really lovely. Nice day in the garden. Gotta just enjoy it while it's here. Yeah. But it's a shame we can't just have like a consistent sort of, you know, 22 to 25. Yeah. Just now until September. 'Cause this is too hot. For us.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:43 I think for people who— I've been very fortunate to not be at work within this weather.

RoRo 0:05:48 No, but also loads of my friends are like, thank God I'm in the office because it's aircon. It's actually quite nice. That's true.

Speaker K 0:05:54 But yes, I just—

RoRo 0:05:55 tubes. I just, just be consistent because then it's going to be raining and cold next week. It's not gonna be cold, is it? Well, but it will feel cold because it's going to be going from 35 to 20 or 18.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:10 Well, today it has been hotter today, 34 to 35.

RoRo 0:06:14 Has it been that hot?

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:16 Yeah, hotter than Lagos in Nigeria, Cairo in Egypt.

RoRo 0:06:21 Lagos. Lagos. Lagos. Sorry, I'm not a traveller, as you know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:25 Cairo in Egypt and Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam.

RoRo 0:06:29 We've been hotter here. Wow, great facts. Thank you. I got them off of ChatGPT. That is mad, innit? And we also had a tropical night last night. When it's over 20, it's, it's called a tropical night. Oh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:42 So it usually cools down a little bit.

RoRo 0:06:43 So. What a bastard night. How would you feel if you were on holiday this week? I know being on holiday is different. Mum would be losing her mind. But I would be a little bit gutted. I wouldn't. It's not the same. You're not doing the same. Mm-hmm. You're not. No, you're not. But You could still have just had a week off and been at home and just— But it's not the same.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:05 And some people don't have gardens.

RoRo 0:07:06 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And you're right. Even like Saturday, I was at home. Even I went to sit down for 10 minutes. You just can't, for me, I just can't fully relax. No. Because there's always something or the kids want something. No. It is, being on holiday is completely different. It is. I still get gutted if it was like 8 degrees warmer in the country that I live, that would piss me off. As long as it's hot where you are though. If you went somewhere and the weather was pretty shite and it was hot here, yeah, that's fine. It's not, you know, it's like 21. It's not— No. Super hot.

Speaker K 0:07:39 Yeah, I'd be a bit fuming.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:40 What about all the people that like to run out to toy stores and run out and get paddling pools on the day?

RoRo 0:07:48 Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, I get it though. But, but, but you do have a weather forecast. Well, I bought mine ahead of time knowing that this was coming. I had to go shopping, food shopping this morning, and I, I really was upset about it, but I got— Did it early doors. I did it early. I left home at 6:30. But yeah, like half 8, quarter to 9. Did an order.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:07 I hate doing that as well 'cause it's expensive, but I couldn't face even going to the supermarket today. Terrible, innit?

RoRo 0:08:14 No, no. Food shop, you know, delivery one. Yeah. No, I, I don't, for me, I'm not walking around shops when it's hot. Absolutely not. No, no. I mean, food shops, you, you have to. Well, it's the same, isn't it? What was it yesterday? Also, some people wanna go in the aircon. They think, oh, go in there. Sainsbury's, 2 hours, stunning. Yeah, it's true. But it isn't, it's— but everyone's having a barbecue.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:35 Oh, well, so, well, Mark yesterday, exactly, he went into the shop, didn't he?

RoRo 0:08:40 Yeah, but that's different. Yeah, nothing on the shelf. Everyone's gone mad. Of course, because everyone's having a barbecue. We will only have barbecues now. Not, you know, not full-on, but we will put a piece of meat on the barbecue and just have a salad. It's— I love that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:57 Is that what you're doing tonight?

RoRo 0:08:58 I'm not eating. Jack's eating now. I'm not gonna eat tonight, which is a bit of a shame.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:03 Why can't you have something when you get home?

RoRo 0:09:05 Because it's late, isn't it? And, nah, it's long. Fair enough. I might have a slice of toast or something, or a banana. I'll be alright. Push the boat out. Or maybe a Greek salad, actually. I could make myself a little Greek salad. That sounds nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Love a Greek salad at the moment.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:21 I've got some pizzas today, so you could take them home with you because we're at yours tomorrow.

RoRo 0:09:25 Stunning.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:25 We can have a pizza.

RoRo 0:09:27 Just, yeah, but lovely little thin pizza with some salad. That's exactly what we're having.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:31 That's what we're doing. Little salad. Just easy, innit? Who wants to cook in this weather?

RoRo 0:09:35 Well, that's the other thing. It is hard. The ice cream man didn't come today. Not seen him. Not heard him. I can't believe, I can't believe, I'm sorry. That is a disgrace. It's half term and it's 100 degrees. Why?

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:48 Crazy stuff.

RoRo 0:09:49 Came on, came yesterday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:50 Didn't. Oh, do you not really? I said, I believe when it's this hot, they maybe change the route or they stay somewhere for the day.

RoRo 0:09:58 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But I'm sure that's catered to anyway. Maybe they've had a day off.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:03 Surely not.

RoRo 0:10:05 Dunno. Yeah.

RoRo 0:10:05 Crazy stuff. The other thing that with the weather, seeing quite a lot on socials of people, like, taking their children out for the day.

RoRo 0:10:16 Yes. Wait, today? Yeah. Right. Why?

RoRo 0:10:21 It's halftime. I know, but he's sweating. I know, but some people might not have gardens. No, I know these people have gardens. I've seen them in, in said garden.

RoRo 0:10:32 Where are they going? Where are they going? Many places, indoor places. But I just think— My kids went to soft play today. I mean, I do kind of get that because they're very young.

RoRo 0:10:42 A bit of, a bit of cool time. And apparently it was rammed. Was it? Yep. No, but I get that.

RoRo 0:10:46 But for me, it's like going to like the zoo today. Oh, it's too hot.

RoRo 0:10:50 For the kids, it is so hot. Too hot. All that walking around. Now I've gotta tell you something, 'cause otherwise I'll forget. I was very upset and quite worried about this story.

RoRo 0:11:03 There was a diversion today, so I did a lot of sort of country lanes, places I wouldn't go. And I came out and it is a country lane and it was so hot. It felt like being in Campania in Italy. You know that bit where it's dusty?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:17 It's so hot. And there were 2 men, and I'm gonna say 70s, walking, doing a walk.

RoRo 0:11:25 Yes. Danger.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:26 What are you doing with your hats and your long shirts and your walking boots on today?

RoRo 0:11:32 Yeah. Madness. Early doors though. But it was still, it was 25.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:38 It was 28 degrees. I looked, it's very, very warm to be walking.

RoRo 0:11:43 I was gonna go for a walk at lunchtime. I didn't. No, it's too— I mean, look, we've been outside all day, but we've been in shade. Yeah. As I say, all day we've had time inside.

RoRo 0:11:55 Yep. Been in freezing cold water. Like, just think, yeah, who, who's surely the zoo today? I would love to know if anyone's gone to the zoo. Oh, because that just would've been roasting.

RoRo 0:12:06 Like, can you imagine that little splash pot, that little pool area thing? Oh, well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm just, I'm not talking about a particular zoo. Oh, okay. But any zoo, just, Yeah. Madness.

RoRo 0:12:15 And even just kids, like, even yesterday the kids were here in the paddling pool. Alfie had a little bit of a meltdown. It's too hot for them. They're hot. They're exhausted.

RoRo 0:12:26 They get rattled. They need sleep. Yeah. It's, yeah. I mean, I feel wiped out today.

RoRo 0:12:31 I can, and I'm like, I cannot wait to get to bed, but also I can wait because it's gonna be the pits.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:35 I feel absolutely cracking now. I've had me shower.

RoRo 0:12:37 'Cause you've got wet hair. I've got wet hair. Lovely. I had a shower, but I didn't wash my hair. It was a, Really nice shower though. I'm gonna have a cold shower before bed. Yeah, lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:45 And do your hair, wet it.

RoRo 0:12:47 No, Natalie, I've got work tomorrow. I'm not doing my hair.

Speaker L 0:12:49 Oh, okay. Calm down, calm down, calm down.

RoRo 0:15:18 What about you when you buy a machine like a pump? Electric pump machine. Oh, I'm delirious. No, it's the heat. The, the electric pumps to blow up lilos and paddling pools and stuff.

RoRo 0:15:33 Yeah. Why is the lead about this long? Oh, it's mad. Tiny. So you can't— I like— so the paddling pool, I've had to blow it up inside because that's where the plug is.

RoRo 0:15:47 We've not got an outside plug. I think we have, but I didn't think about that. But then the, the padding was all going up and it's gone crazy. And the one I've bought for James is, it's got like a slide. Yeah.

RoRo 0:15:57 And it's got a little hippo inside. So it's, you've gotta blow all these bits up individually. Yeah. Individually. Yeah.

RoRo 0:16:03 Moving it round. But I can't, then I've, I've had to use an extension lead. Yeah. I couldn't get it close enough. Yeah.

RoRo 0:16:07 How stupid is that? Yeah. Shite. Do you think they do ones with longer leads? Yeah, I would imagine so.

RoRo 0:16:12 I don't know though. Very odd. Yeah. Very stupid actually. I agree.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:18 Yeah, it's not, it's not good common sense.

RoRo 0:16:20 And also you put it in, pull it out, and half the air comes out. It's true. It's quite a challenge actually. It took me a good hour to blow it up.

RoRo 0:16:28 I was sweating. Well, I have to say, Mark's come up trumps again because he has a full kind of an air thing. I dunno what it is, but it's on the workshop and it's like supercharged thing with a long lead. Well, can he bring it round to mine? Yeah, no, it's, Part of the— have you just left it up, the paddling pool?

RoRo 0:16:46 No, I've been refilling it every day. However, I will say, because it's for James and I'm literally putting a little bit in. Yes. But I did it a bit more today because Joanie was over and then the kids tomorrow. So I'm, I am leaving it.

RoRo 0:16:59 That's fine. Because also I'm thinking by the time they've been in it an hour, it's gonna be dirty, not dirty, but it's gonna have stuff in it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:05 I'll— Well, you're saying our children are dirty or something?

RoRo 0:17:08 No, but they're just more active in the water. I bought a paddling pool cover. Yes. I don't know why. I don't know why. To cover your pool? Yeah. But it's ridiculous because it gets dirty. I'm not covering that dirty water. Oh, yes. So I ended up emptying it out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:27 And that's— Yeah. But if you refill it overnight and keep the COVID on, some heat should— it should colour up a bit. What colour is the COVID Don't know.

RoRo 0:17:35 It's in the box. Blue? If it was a dark one, then that would be good. You put it over and it warms it. Like with the tinfoil type thing. Yes. Yeah. I'll have a look. Maybe I'll wrap a load of tinfoil over mine tonight. Bit of cling film. Roasted. Roasted.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:51 Well, I'll tell you something else which I'm really pleased about. I have to thank everybody. I'm blown away. I dunno who's watching television in this heat.

RoRo 0:18:01 I haven't watched it. No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:02 I've not watched it yet in terms of a full episode on the telly, 'cause it's, we've been outside. But just people have been so kind about the new documentary, Natalie Cassidy: Caring Together. I've had so many beautiful messages. Well done. People have binged it. There's 4 on iPlayer, so please check it out. But yeah, just been absolutely lovely. I've got a couple of messages here.

RoRo 0:18:24 No, I need to watch it. But yeah, I mean, there was no way yesterday that was happening. So well done, people. That is dedication. That is dedication. So lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:30 Here's a little message.

Speaker Q 0:18:31 Hi, Nat. I've just watched your programme and I had to message straight away. I thought it was brilliant. I really, really enjoyed it. I felt like it spoke to me. I've worked in the NHS as a theatre practitioner for 20 years. I'm also type 1 diabetic and have been for nearly 30 years, and I'm also a carer for my daughter who's got a rare syndrome called Pitt-Hopkins syndrome, and I just felt that You just walked exactly the right line for the programme, and I can't wait to see more. Thank you so much. Bye.

RoRo 0:19:09 Oh, I think what's special about it is it's, it's, it's so relatable to so many people. Yeah, of course. On different, on different levels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not sexy or glamorous, it's just a reality on what goes on within care, and people are loving it. So thank you very much. That's great. Yeah, I'm really pleased. Yeah, look forward to watching it. Yeah, same. Can't wait. Gotta get a series 2.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:30 It's what we need. Wanna delve deeper. Do you know what I mean? So I need the old figures to be good. So just keep putting it on repeat on the old iPlayer and just leave it running for me, will you, listeners?

RoRo 0:19:39 No, I'm sure you don't need to do that. Oh dear. No, it's lovely. And it's just nice that because it's something that you are, you know, it's so authentic to you. Just passionate about it. Yeah. Yeah. Passionate. And—

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:51 I do think that's important. Sometimes documentaries, I dunno, you might see one and you might think, oh, I don't, No idea.

RoRo 0:19:58 Why that, what the fit is or, so it's just all worked 'cause it was just very organic, I think. And passion project. So no, really good. Oh, that's great. Well done. Excellent. Really pleased. Very much.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:08 We had a little message from someone, didn't we, regarding what I've looked like for the press over the last few days. Someone said, has RoRo styled you? Yes, she did. She did. She helped me with my outfits for the one show on Saturday Kitchen. I got lots of nice remarks saying I looked nice.

RoRo 0:20:24 Yeah, lovely. You did.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:25 Thank you very much.

RoRo 0:20:26 Thanks, Ro. Thanks, Ro.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:27 All good.

RoRo 0:20:28 What else? Katie Price. Oh, come on, else. I feel a bit, I'm a bit lost with it. We've had quite a few messages. Just, I think everyone knows I'm all over it. I've got a little group together. I've got a few people that, you know, just bouncing ideas off. Go on then. What's the latest? He's been arrested and he's in a prison in Dubai. Has he though? That's, I don't think that's true.

Speaker R 0:20:50 Sorry, why not?

RoRo 0:20:53 'Cause I think that's true. Oh, well, that's, to be honest, I've not looked at anything. I think that's fake news, honey. But apparently his dad said it. She's still saying, where's my husband? I need to find him. So if he was in prison, I think she'd be out there. Well, I did find it weird that last night a story went on Olivia Ratwood and Katie Price together saying, where's our husbands? It was a bit, it almost feels, and she has openly said this is not a thing, I, you know, not staged. But why are them two together saying, where's my husband? It just feels a bit weird. Oh, where's her husband? They split up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:31 Oh, right.

RoRo 0:21:33 But it just feels— yeah, because I'm not being funny, if this was a genuine thing, would she be doing that? Well, you'd be strange if you would be.

RoRo 0:21:42 If you were genuinely worried, you wouldn't be putting it all on social media. It's— no, it is— something is Not— I'm just so desperate to know what is going on. Really need— yeah. I'm sure there will be something. I don't know.

RoRo 0:22:00 It's weird because I guess we listened to the podcast of the ex-girlfriend. Right. So that was obviously from her perspective on a genuine relationship. Right. And he— yeah, he just completely lied to her.

RoRo 0:22:14 It's— he's I don't— yeah, he's just— But I think Katie Price is cleverer than— I, I had a moment last week where my thoughts were that she knows he's this kind of guy. Yeah. She's got involved with him to then create some form of documentary alongside these other girls, get them on board. I know that sounds mad, but I can't understand what else it would be. Be interesting to see how it evolves.

RoRo 0:22:42 Like a bit of a swindle, you know, like a Tinder swindle, and that, you know, Right. But I, I don't, I'm, I don't know. Bizarre, isn't it? It's all bizarre. It really is.

RoRo 0:22:53 So he had, so we're saying that he's not been arrested yet. Well, I've read and I've heard that that's fake news. Well, I need to do some more digging tonight. I do feel— So I'm looking into it. But yeah, if any, anyone's got anything they wanna share, feel free to let us know.

RoRo 0:23:06 Feel free. 07788 201919. The saga continues. This was a cracking post, a little meme. over 40 vibes.

RoRo 0:23:15 Today I learned that pollen allergies are the result of an overpopulation of male trees. So once again, men. I had that said to me a few times. Brilliant. That was funny.

RoRo 0:23:26 Very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:27 Very good.

RoRo 0:23:28 And what about our live show this weekend? Ah. So yeah, bank— it's just been bank holiday weekend.

Speaker R 0:23:33 It was good, wasn't it?

RoRo 0:23:34 Really, really good. Thank you everybody who came to Hertford. It was sold out. And, as you all know, but I will say again, there are 3 more shows. They're on sale now. The link's on my Ko-fi. me on my Instagram and stuff. So go and have a little look.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:48 Bishop Stortford, London, and Tring.

RoRo 0:23:52 And they're all, um, October, November. So go and check out all the details.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:55 But they're just really— I'm so proud of us all. I just feel like we've really got into a lovely rhythm now, and it just feels very intimate, really lovely, good chat. Yeah, it's a great night. It's a great afternoon out, I'm telling you. You've got to get yourself some tickets.

RoRo 0:24:10 Yeah, I think that one, that one in particular, obviously there was a lot of more people that we know, lots of friends come and supported. Which felt a bit, like, pressure on to— Don't we? Yeah. A bit more nervous. Yeah. A few people came to support us. They don't listen to the pod all the time regularly, and they really enjoyed it. And they said, you know what, it didn't matter. It was just— Yeah. Yeah. Great conversation, like, the dynamics. And so, yeah, it's—

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:38 Really lovely day, wasn't it?

RoRo 0:24:39 Yeah. And we had a nice little shindig after, didn't we? A few drinks.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:42 Do you feel I've made you, yeah, be out of the sun quite a lot? Quite a lot over the last few days. Yeah.

RoRo 0:24:47 Well, I was just gonna say Sunday and now tonight.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:49 It's quite a lot. It's quite a lot, innit?

RoRo 0:24:51 Never mind. And then also in Hartford, we're gonna be doing a brunch, aren't we?

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:55 We are going to be doing a brunch.

RoRo 0:24:57 Yes. In October.

Speaker B 0:24:58 To be confirmed.

RoRo 0:25:00 Yep. And sorted.

Speaker B 0:25:01 But that is definitely happening. We have lots of people saying, are you gonna do it? We are. We, we, you know, pulling our socks up, getting things organised. But there's more info for that to follow.

RoRo 0:25:10 Yep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:11 Which is excellent.

RoRo 0:25:12 Exciting stuff, Sinead.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:14 Very, very, very good.

RoRo 0:25:19 I'm sweating. This is really hot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:22 Can we talk about what you're wearing?

RoRo 0:25:23 I feel like, um, we're a bit sloppy fire tonight. Well, I think, do you know something? I'm sorry, guys.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:28 I mean, everybody I think will be thankful.

Speaker B 0:25:34 Once again, I'm not being rude. We— I could have done a post and said, I'm sorry, due to the extreme heat.

RoRo 0:25:38 No, everyone's gone to work.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:40 But due to the extreme heat, Oh, there isn't gonna be a pod on Thursday.

RoRo 0:25:44 Okay. I just said, well, go to work like I've done all day. I know. You know, sweating or, I dunno. I feel for cleaners. Oh my God, they must be so hot. That's so true. I was thinking about that actually. Well, it's cooling down. How about ironing shops?

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:58 No, but they'll have aircon.

RoRo 0:25:59 Aircon. They will have aircon. Will they? Surely. Like a proper ironing company.

Speaker R 0:26:04 Do you think?

Speaker S 0:26:05 Surely.

RoRo 0:26:07 But for me, a cleaner in someone's house sweating. Why is there not like an automatic iron these days? Like, why is there not a machine There is.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:14 The revelations are coming thick and fast.

RoRo 0:26:17 Well, you know, there is technology that you could just feed like a— there is like electronic mangle. Really?

Speaker B 0:26:24 There is a thing where I've seen it.

RoRo 0:26:26 Jack's seen it before. I don't know if it's just for like trousers, but I'm sure there is a thing.

Speaker B 0:26:31 What, a trouser press?

RoRo 0:26:32 Which is really old.

Speaker B 0:26:34 No, but like a super duper fit, like, but it's well expensive. I'm sure we've seen it.

RoRo 0:26:38 Maybe we should do this.

Speaker B 0:26:41 Really? Or invent.

RoRo 0:26:43 You said it's already invented. Oh, well, I dunno. I need to double check that. But like, how are you— ironing is, yeah. But do you know how many people don't iron? I don't iron. I only iron a few shirts and bits. That's what she says. I don't, I just, I wait by the tumble dryer. I do. I wait for it to stop. I get it. I shake it. What do you mean? I know when I iron, it still comes out creased.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:04 No, it doesn't.

RoRo 0:27:05 Don't believe it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:06 Shirts and that do, but Everything else, no.

RoRo 0:27:08 Oh, Alfie in September, he's in year 3, wears shirts.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:13 They're good as gold.

RoRo 0:27:14 What a shame.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:15 Little shirts. Cute.

RoRo 0:27:16 No, it's not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:17 I don't know why in this day and age, actually, the school uniform thing does baffle me.

RoRo 0:27:22 Polo shirts are lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:23 They're just comfy for them. I feel like kids can—

RoRo 0:27:25 Especially in the summer.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:25 It's nice to be comfortable, but it is nice for them to be smart as well. Yeah.

RoRo 0:27:29 And I was gonna say smart, but what for? Not in primary school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:33 Comfort, comfort, I think, should be First.

RoRo 0:27:35 Yeah. I just think, really? I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:38 It's true. Listen to this. What a great listen today's pod, ep 227, was. I laughed lots whilst on my walk today, and it helped me get the 10K steps in. Heard you mention the Sir David Attenborough tribute programme, and you said about his wife sat next to him, it was actually his daughter. Wow. Sally Gander. Oh. Now I've had probably—

RoRo 0:27:57 Yeah. I've seen a lot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:58 A lot of messages.

RoRo 0:27:59 I've seen a lot. So my apologies.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:01 Yeah. I just thought it would be, but no, he lost his wife quite a while ago and that was his daughter with him.

RoRo 0:28:07 You should do some research next time. Exactly. I watched it though. I watched it. Did you love it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:12 Yeah, it was lovely.

RoRo 0:28:13 Wasn't it? What a wonderful world.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:14 It was amazing, wasn't it?

RoRo 0:28:16 Watched it. So cute. What about, just going back to it, I've just remembered something and Natalie wasn't there at this point.

RoRo 0:28:22 What about that lovely couple I started speaking to in Hartford? No. She is honestly— Would I have loved it? I was telling Natalie yesterday about it. They walked, they just walked passed, and I sort of spotted them, didn't I?

RoRo 0:28:34 Do you know what though, Elia? What? I recognised the woman. Oh, really? Yeah.

RoRo 0:28:40 Really familiar. Don't know where, but really familiar. Just looked very smart. Yeah. You know, lovely sort of blue shirt.

RoRo 0:28:46 And I, I don't know how I started speaking to them because I— You just went, you were just like, I've gotta speak to them. So you just called them over. And they come over and I said, oh, what? And they were telling, they've just been for dinner and they were gonna go home and have a little port in the garden. I said, no, I'm obsessed.

RoRo 0:29:00 So you said something. They were like 74, Wow. But they looked amazing. And I said something like— What did you say about football? Oh, she said she supported Chelsea, so we had a little passionate over that.

RoRo 0:29:12 And then I said, who do you support? He said, my wife. And I was like, now I'm obsessed. They went, thank you. Like, that is a very good answer.

RoRo 0:29:19 Wow, that's really lovely. You're just the cutest couple. Yeah, it made my day actually. That's so lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:24 It looks like a bit of rain for Saturday. Mighty Hoopla.

RoRo 0:29:28 Oh, fucking great.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:28 A little bit of rain about 4 o'clock for a few hours.

RoRo 0:29:31 I am— You're done by then, aren't you? I'm done by then. So we'd have to find a tent or something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:37 So if anyone is going to Mighty Hoopla, please keep an eye out for me and RoRo. We shall be there. Got a couple of surprises over at Pleasure Palace for you all, so come and see me.

RoRo 0:29:46 I mean, that sounds risky. It's an absolute cracker. Really? Rain? It might change though. Could change.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:53 You never know.

RoRo 0:29:54 I haven't got, um, a hairdresser either, which is a shame. Why? Can't fit me in. Got a head.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:01 You gotta come here early. Molly's doing me.

RoRo 0:30:03 No, no, I can't have it done the day I just crimp it. It's fine. All right, fair enough.

RoRo 0:32:00 Hi, Nat and Nat's nieces. I've just listened to your latest pod and the recommendation of Should I Marry a Murderer? I've just started the first episode and thought it sounded familiar.

Speaker B 0:32:10 In the podcast Crime Next Door: The Vanishing Cyclist, they cover the story from the case of the police investigation.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:17 Very interesting and would recommend a listen after the Netflix series.

RoRo 0:32:22 Oh, so there you go. No, I've not seen it, the Netflix. I've not watched it yet. It's really good. And I think, I think it's a good podcast to watch.

RoRo 0:32:26 that. I've seen that and I think it might be on, I dunno if it's ITV Player maybe. It's one of them like that. ITVX or BBC iPlayer. That's the one.

RoRo 0:32:34 Fine. Oh, it's on either one. I merged. Yeah. So I've seen that advertised.

RoRo 0:32:39 I need to watch that. I also just watched, mum told me to watch it, Believe Me. Yeah. I'm gonna see that. Now we gotta watch it.

RoRo 0:32:46 Although you will never get in a black cab again. It's all the best. No, it's good though. I don't really do it on my own anyway. No, I know it was really good, but I mean, wild.

RoRo 0:32:55 Carrie Johnson, isn't it? Who's that? Oh, well, it's about— oh, it's not about her, but she's one of the people in it. One of the victims. Yeah.

RoRo 0:33:03 Yeah. She, it was, but she's the one, that's why it's come out. Oh, is it? She's spoken out. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:07 Yeah. It's huge. Oh, wow.

RoRo 0:33:09 Yeah. It's huge around Carrie Johnson. I don't think she, anything happened to her. No. But that was the point, I think, just before I read something on it. Right. I couldn't be, I wouldn't wanna say anything. The guy, the guy who plays the cabbie, I don't know his name, but he's good. I really like him. Yeah. I would like to watch. We did finish The Cage. That was really good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:29 Did you enjoy it? Yeah. I loved it.

RoRo 0:33:31 It was excellent. It got really gripping, you know, when you're up to the point where I'm like, I can't watch. Like, what are you doing? Get out, get out, get out. It's like one of those. That was good. Very good. And I haven't watched anything.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:42 I've not watched one Rivals. All I've been waiting for is for it to come out.

RoRo 0:33:45 And you've not watched it. And I've not watched it. I need to do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:47 Again, it's the weather for me out in the garden and stuff, just enjoying it.

RoRo 0:33:50 But yeah, I've gotta do that. And did you watch, The new Danny Dyer.

RoRo 0:33:56 What's Emily Atack's? No. I haven't watched anything. Not, I genuinely haven't sat and put that telly on. Yeah.

RoRo 0:34:03 Alright. Any good? I, I literally turned it on and I haven't had time to watch it, but it's interesting. You haven't watched EastEnders for about, oh, come on, 3 weeks? No.

RoRo 0:34:12 4 weeks? Since Nigel died. Oh, you missed the funeral. I know. We, and now I think we're too late to catch up.

RoRo 0:34:19 Just football. It's just been a lot going on. It's a lot, innit? Mm-hmm. When the weather's nice, it's hard, isn't it?

RoRo 0:34:27 Yeah. No. But I've got no interest, to be honest. Nah. Watching any kind of telly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:31 This came up. Sorry to go off-piste, but I do love these things. Again, something I saw on Instagram. It made me laugh. Know your shit.

RoRo 0:34:41 Yes. Good. Very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:43 Bullshit.

RoRo 0:34:45 Not sorry. See how many we can get. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry. Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:47 Know your shit. Ready? Bullshit.

RoRo 0:34:49 No, she's gotta give us the thing and then we guess what it is. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh my gosh. All right, go on then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:56 Here we go.

Speaker K 0:34:58 Bullshit.

RoRo 0:34:58 No, no, you've gotta do the other bit. The other bit. Oh, I picked it up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:03 This is going well.

RoRo 0:35:05 This is the other part. The other side.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:06 No, you're shit. Bullshit.

Speaker U 0:35:08 Oh, stop it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:16 We'll just get this one out the way so we've got practice. Not true.

RoRo 0:35:19 Bullshit.

Speaker K 0:35:21 Bullshit.

RoRo 0:35:22 Unruly. Unruly. Don't give a shit. Give a shit. This is quite hard. Unruly. Ape shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:34 Ah.

RoRo 0:35:36 Despicable. Little shit. No, that's like, oh, shit house. What is that? That's not hard, right? Go on then. Crazy. Batshit. Yes. Unbelievable. Mad shit. Holy shit. Ding, ding, ding. Obviously. No shit. Yep. Idiot. Dumb shit. Dipshit. Dipshit. Nothing. No shit. Give a shit. Hang on. Wait. Nothing. Niente. Oh my God. You should know this one. I know. I've got nothing. I'm— Nothing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:25 Jack shit.

RoRo 0:36:27 Oh, shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:30 Disorganised. One of my favourites. Disorganised.

RoRo 0:36:35 This is really hard. Disorganised. Fuck nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:39 Shit show.

RoRo 0:36:41 Ah, very good. Drunk. Shitted. Shit-faced. Shit-faced.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:50 Important. Know your shit. No, important stuff. This is— what is it?

RoRo 0:36:56 This is the shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:01 This is the big shit. Big, big shit. Big shit going on.

RoRo 0:37:05 What is that? What it is? Yeah, big shit. I've not heard that one. Well, I wouldn't say—

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:09 Shabby.

RoRo 0:37:11 Shabby going into somewhere, it's a shithole. Correct. Weak. Weak. What, as in like weak? Having a fight. Weak. You are chicken shit. Chicken shit. Measurement. Long shit. Measurement.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:35 Measurement.

RoRo 0:37:39 Give me more. I mean, yeah, you could have more on these, I have to say. Measurement. So, um, a lot of. Oh, um, bear shit. Loads of shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:48 Shitloads.

RoRo 0:37:49 Shitloads. And the last, last one, the final shit, is too bad. Oh well. We are shit. Hey ho.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:03 Too bad.

RoRo 0:38:04 Shit. Is it shit something or something shit?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:08 It's something shit.

RoRo 0:38:10 Too bad. Oh shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:15 Tough shit.

RoRo 0:38:16 Ah, that's really hard actually. Harder than I thought, but very good. I do like these ones. Yeah, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:23 Very, very good.

RoRo 0:38:23 Yep. Did you get any other animal things?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:26 Yes, we did.

RoRo 0:38:28 I've been thinking about it and I just don't think I can get it. I don't think I'm very good at it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:34 Just listening to the newest episode of Nat's Nieces, and I have to agree with Nat. If animals could speak, cats are definitely grumpy pricks. Their sarcasm potential would be off the charts.

RoRo 0:38:44 They'd probably only speak to insult you at 4:00 AM.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:47 Parrots, I own one and they are not posh at all. Our African Grey, my, is proper East End. Calls the kids, laughs at us, drops the odd F-bomb, common as muck.

RoRo 0:39:00 Brilliant. Yeah, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:02 Funniest has to be a teacup Chihuahua. All bark and attitude. Mm-hmm. If they could speak, it'd be, yeah, keep walking, pal, before I climb this sofa and ruin your whole bloodline. Absolute knobs. And that was Paula.

RoRo 0:39:15 Very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:15 Who came to Hertford with her sister-in-law. So thank you for coming, Paula.

RoRo 0:39:19 Very, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:20 Very funny.

RoRo 0:39:22 I've never been hotter. I felt, I'm, I'm, I've got sweat, like, on my arms. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:27 My shins were sweating yesterday and today, which is a, a funny one. I also had a very large rash on my back today. Bad sun rash, wasn't it?

RoRo 0:39:36 Yeah. You had a heat rash. Here we are. Wasn't very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:39 Wasn't very good at all.

RoRo 0:39:40 We had a message from Hannah. Yes. Saying, please, can we talk gym mishaps, AKA trying not to fanny fart after a 3-legged downward dog in a quiet yoga class, including my old science teacher from secondary school on a mat next to me. 2 times children and the pelvic floor is questionable. Anyone else had a dire gym situation? Oh, that is the only thing with those exercises. Like when I've been in Pilates once and someone, someone let one go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:08 I think the yoga and the Pilates, you're kind of relaxing, aren't you?

RoRo 0:40:11 So you, you're just, you don't, you know, it could happen and you're quite—

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:15 I know, but you don't wanna fart.

RoRo 0:40:16 No. It's a class. Exactly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:18 It's class. Yeah. It's not good.

RoRo 0:40:19 I remember once, where was we? I was doing Pilates or something like that. And do you remember it was Mum's all-in-one? You know that Adidas all-in-one thing? Yes, I do remember. And I would wear it. And I remember I was doing a downward dog or something, and I think I must, I dunno if I had underwear on, probably not. And one of the girls went, you got a hole right in the crotch bit.

Speaker V 0:40:39 Oh no.

RoRo 0:40:45 I went out the other, it was slightly different, but I went out the other day with some new jeans on. And, you know, M&S, you know, the M&S have the strip on the jean. No. Yes. So they have a tag, and then they also have like a strip with the size on. A strip with the size on. I just had to wear that all day. All day, just on my leg.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:07 We do it a lot though, don't we?

RoRo 0:41:08 Yeah. We love a tag.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:09 I leave tags in. I forget. All the time. That's rushing, that is.

RoRo 0:41:14 Yeah. No, I'm terrible.

RoRo 0:41:15 Or I, I put it, put it on and think when I go down, I'll cut it out. Cut it out. Because otherwise I pull it and I end up putting a hole in it. Yeah. But I do.

RoRo 0:41:22 But would you go up to someone? Right, well, it's funny because I did it and someone was running and I shit my pants. I thought, what the fuck's she running for? She was like, you've got a tag hanging out. I said, oh, thank you.

RoRo 0:41:33 I was more embarrassed. I thought you could just let me be. Oh, that's lovely. No, I think it's good. There's certain times I think I'd wanna tell you, but then I'd be worried that you would be, be like that and be like, oh, I'm so embarrassed now.

RoRo 0:41:46 But I would much rather say— I've been out before And, and I think I've been out for, like, 7 hours and no one's told me. I've got one for you. What about if you did do it to someone? Mm-hmm. And they were like, why have you— I know, like, I'm taking this back.

RoRo 0:42:02 It's alright. All the best. Tuck it in. Yeah. Yeah.

RoRo 0:42:06 But I think I've done it before where I've seen it and it's, like, tucked in. I'm like, oh, you got your label in. Oh, if it was tucked in, then I probably wouldn't. If it was fully hanging out the back, then—

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:14 No, I get it. I do get it.

RoRo 0:42:15 What about stickers on the shoes? That I cannot abide.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:18 What, stickers on the shoes? Nah. Even the see-through Yeah.

RoRo 0:42:22 No, I'm sorry, guys. It's unacceptable. Would you say to someone, oh, your stickers are on your shoes? You wouldn't. Only if I knew them. Yeah. I just—

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:31 what about when you go to lunch with someone that you really like? Your acquaintance, friend, whatever you're doing. Well, if you're going for lunch with them, you hopefully, you know, or work meeting or something, and you go to the toilet and you've got a massive thing and you think, I've been sat there all day, you know. Now I will always say to someone, sorry, you got a little something in your tooth? Yeah. Always. 100%. Oh, that pisses me right off.

RoRo 0:42:49 Unless they say it to you and it's just your dodgy tooth.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:51 Oh, my dodgy tooth. No, that's true.

RoRo 0:42:53 You like getting things stuck in your teeth though, don't you? Mhmm. But imagine saying it to someone and then they go, oh no, it's actually, I've just got like a hole.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:00 Well, I'd say, oh, I'm sorry about that. I was just letting you know. I thought it was food. I'd be alright if someone said it to me. I'd be like, oh no, no, that's just—

RoRo 0:43:08 I know. But then, like, you're trying to get it out when you can't get it out. I get it. I hate all that stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:12 You haven't got something with you.

RoRo 0:43:15 Annoying. That's why you should always carry toothpicks. But yeah, you should, you should just tell people.

RoRo 0:43:20 I did it. There was a woman, woman at work. She basically had, like, half of her dress undone at the back. She'd obviously had a card, maybe got ready, you know, one of them dresses you can't do it yourself. Yeah.

RoRo 0:43:30 Yes. Got ready on her own, come to the office, had a cardigan on, took it off, but she was really senior. And I really plucked up the courage to tell her, and she was very grateful. That's good. But I was mortified.

RoRo 0:43:40 Like, she never came to our office, and I, I did shit my pants, but I did it. It is a funny thing, that, isn't it? Because it is good deed, but you feel embarrassed yourself to do it. Like, I'm already embarrassed for them. Yeah.

RoRo 0:43:52 Yes. And everyone can see it. So just nip it, get it done, and then you're—

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:56 everything's all right. I went to a little do a little while ago, and I went outside and I sat on a wall. And when I came in, one of the girls went, Natalie, sorry, you've got quite a lot of dirt on your bum. But it was as if I'd shat myself. I said, I looked in the lift mirror. I said, thank you so much. I cleaned it as much as I could. But I thought, thank— but she, you could tell she was very embarrassed coming up to me, but I was so pleased she did. Yeah.

RoRo 0:44:20 But that's it. You'd rather someone do that than—

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:22 But it looked like— Hell yeah. Pure poo. It did. I had cream trousers on and it looked as if I'd pooed from my anus.

RoRo 0:44:30 But— Well, where else?

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:32 No, but you know, the actual exact—

RoRo 0:44:34 Fuck it out. Sometimes, I don't know if you get this, like, I don't know if it's my mascara rubs onto my eyes. Oh. I get a bit of dark. So sometimes I'll go to the toilet and I'll look in the mirror and I think, why the fuck has no one said, Maria, you got a bit of your mascara's falling on your eye? I know, they don't care. That annoys me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:51 Yeah. Agreed. Any stories? I'd love to hear people's stories.

RoRo 0:44:55 No. But what about the other, like the other way where you've said something? Because that's happened to me many a time and you think, I shouldn't, someone says, like I just said, no, that's just a hole in my tooth.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:05 And you think, see, this is why I just stay out of it.

RoRo 0:45:07 Yeah. Or like, oh, you've got something there. Oh, that's a mole. Yeah. Oh, you got a little on your chin. Oh no, it's a scar. Oh, okay, great.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:14 Yeah. I'd love to hear those stories. That's a great one. They're good ones. 'Cause you're trying to do the good deed and you can offend someone.

RoRo 0:45:20 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:21 Quite easily, can't you? Well, I think that's the pod over 'cause I think we're all gonna fall asleep.

RoRo 0:45:26 Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, sorry guys. That was—

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:29 Short and sweet.

RoRo 0:45:30 That was hardcore.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:31 I hope you're all having a lovely, lovely week. I'm recording with Mummy tomorrow night.

RoRo 0:45:35 Oh yeah. Oh, she gets 24 degrees. Oh, Jesus. We get 34. Sorry. No, it's all right. I'm joking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:42 It's all right. Love to see you both. Super duper. Thank you. We'll be back soon. I'm at yours tomorrow. Yep. For another day in the sun. Stunning.

RoRo 0:45:50 Look forward to it. I'll be at work. I know. I go away next week. Lovely. A few little days away, so that'll be nice. Good. Got a nice weekend to look forward to. Yeah. Just busy now, innit?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:00 Busy, busy, and the sun is shining.

RoRo 0:46:02 Yeah. Super. Right. Ciao, everyone. Ciao for now. See you soon. Have a good one. Bye, everyone.