EP251: Nat’s Nieces #57 – are you peeing in the pool?

Maria 0:02:35 Morning, everybody. So, so lovely hearing the 40th birthday pod. I'm in tears. I was crying listening to the end. It's so lovely.

Maria 0:02:55 And it just made me really giggle that your dad was upset that you've, that you've interrupted the golf every year for the last 40 years, because that's exactly what my sister's done with my dad. And he was playing golf on the day that she was born. She was born 6 weeks early, so no one was expecting it. My granddad, after dropping me off at my other granddad's house, had to drive to the golf course somewhere else in Essex and run, like, just somehow run across the golf course must have got a buggy because he was old. Just go and get him.

Maria 0:03:27 He said, oh, she's gonna have to wait because I've won and I need to get my prize. Oh gosh. So yeah, it's just, it's just funny that there's another dad that's like, just give me the golf, please, just give me the golf. Oh, bless her. You've made a lot of people cry.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:44 I know. The last pod. Well, it was— I was getting loads of messages about it, but I hadn't even heard it. Yes. I didn't have time to listen to it on my birthday. No. But it was beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, when I listened to it, the kids were so cute, weren't they? Yeah, they were cute. Really cute. Can you believe it's my week anniversary of being 40? I'm joking, joking, joking. So now you're 40 years old plus 7 days.

Maria 0:04:06 That's crazy, isn't it, how it works, the time thing. Can you not do the actual maths?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:10 Maths? In days.

Speaker I 0:04:12 What do you mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:13 Oh, in hours? Hours, a full day. Yeah, no, can't do that on the spot. And I know you're pleased that it's over, but it's actually still not over. It was a shocker for you, love.

Maria 0:04:23 No, we've got a lot going on. We had a little chat about that with your mum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:27 I know. Gosh, more celebrations. No, it's been, um, it's been wonderful. I mean, we've— Holiday, love.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:34 Yeah, we've had holiday. We celebrate. Well, on Sunday we were with family, friends celebrating. And just, I was actually just gonna say about Sunday, is it just us that can't seem to manage or get together Like we had such a nice day with some family. Yeah, it was really lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:52 And that we said if the children were there, they would've, they would've outnumbered us. Yes. That's why you can't. It's impossible. And it's taken us how long to do that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:01 Yeah. To get together. When did we go out earlier on in the year? But that wasn't, that was just the girls. I'm talking about the all of us.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:07 Oh yeah. No, we haven't.

Maria 0:05:09 I feel like you were trying to talk about that at Dominic's wedding.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:12 Oh, probably. Yeah, probably.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:13 I think that's when it was. Yeah. And that was in 2000 and— Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:19 20, like, they've changed so many times. It's lovely. The Ferraris and the Waights, our family friends. Yeah, it's lovely. And I feel like we've got a little WhatsApp group set up now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:30 That's good. And I feel like that will now prompt us to do a few things. Well, it actually came from when we had Dad's 60th. Yes. Oh, they wanted us to go back there and we didn't end up going for various different reasons.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:43 So we managed, and it was a year later, basically bang on the day. But I feel like you do, life goes by so quickly. With us, we're very lucky 'cause we talk all the time and it's just a given for us.

Maria 0:05:54 But the extended then friends, like you have to make an effort.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:59 And someone's always gonna have plans to find the day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:01 Well, yeah, to get this date in, hence why it was a Sunday. 'Cause ideally we didn't want a Sunday, but— But sometimes you just gotta do it. It was the only thing we could do. And also it's then getting childcare. Everyone's gotta get childcare.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:11 Of course. And they're all related. And they've got siblings, and so they're, They're trying to manage it between their mums and in-laws. Yeah. So yeah, but it was really lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:21 Worth doing. So we do need to get the next one in. Well, the pizza's good. Oh, excellent. They did a great job.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:26 Oh yeah. Bless them. They made, yeah, they made so much effort. It was really cute. It was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:30 Great cocktails. Cocktails were good. Oh, I had an excellent piña colada.

Maria 0:06:34 Oh, brilliant.

Speaker J 0:06:34 That was really nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:35 We gave our orders and they come up trumps.

Maria 0:06:38 Excellent. Oh, lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:39 And then I'm out, On Thursday.

Maria 0:06:42 Yep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:42 With work lot celebrating, some of my old work lot for drinks.

Maria 0:06:47 Lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:47 So yeah, it's, uh, fun times. And then, yeah, then I go away again, which is very exciting. Nice. I feel like I'll actually be able to chill a bit, relax. Yeah. Rejuvenate. Recoup. That's the one. Yeah.

Maria 0:07:00 Haven't recouped today though. You've had a bit of a shocker with the old windscreen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:03 Well, I don't know if it's happened today. Oh, I didn't hear it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:06 I don't think I literally— Maybe it's happened while the car's been parked. Really? Oh yeah. I've got a chip on my, I call it a wind— Chip on your shoulder. Chip off the old block.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:18 My windscreen. No, but I, I, I've not noticed it. Last time I felt it ping and I heard it and I, this time— Pardon me, she didn't say that bit, did she? Oh, not today. No, this one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:29 Yeah, well it must have been that. No, that was another time. Oh, I'm sorry. And I picked the kids up early and I didn't notice it. I reckon it's happened.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:38 You might, you could have had like a skip lorry come down. Oh no. You might have not heard it. Gutted.

Maria 0:07:43 What a shame. It's just like you said, another thing to do. Yeah, it is aggravating. I'll tell you what, July is a joke. In fact, it starts with your mum's birthday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:53 Oh, which is a present buying— The, the, the birthday.

Maria 0:07:57 Father's Day. Yeah. And just, it's your dad's, it's brother Dave's birthday today.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:02 July is more so than June. 'Cause Mum's at the beginning, then you get a little breather.

Maria 0:08:06 No, well, then it's Evie's, then it's James's, and then it's just constant, constant, constant. Yeah. But I think that's just— All of Mark's family is, you know, June, July.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like everything together.

Maria 0:08:16 I texted it and I said, please don't have a baby in June or July if you have another one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:21 No, it's true. Please. Well, it's like the family friends we were talking about, one of them lot, they have it all round New Year's Eve. Yeah, beginning of January. But it's all, it's like all of them, chaos. So you've got all Christmas, that, It all just seems to happen at once, doesn't it?

Maria 0:08:37 Yeah. See, mine's nice. May.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:39 No one else in May, really. Jack. Jack. Yeah.

Maria 0:08:41 Just me and Jack. Lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:43 There's quite a lot for me. But in a way, for me, even though it's, I always feel a bit under pressure this time of year, my birthday, Ruby's, and Alfie's. Yes. But then once it's done, I feel like, yeah, now I can have a little break. I know what you mean. I do know what you mean. I just don't think it, it's ever gonna, it's only gonna get worse. 'Cause it's just busy. Busy, yeah. More adding and— Nah, we love it, don't we?

Maria 0:09:05 Hi, Life with Nat and Co.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:06 I just wanted to send a message and say I'm having a challenging time at the minute and listening to your pod and your conversations and listening to RoRo talking about her toenail had me laughing. And I always laugh when I listen. So thank you for bringing me joy and laughter. And that was from Lisa. Aw, bless you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:21 So I'm pleased we can help and I hope it's not too challenging, whatever you're going through. Oh, do you know what happened to me yesterday? Go on. So I picked the kids up from their summer camp and Ruby cried because she didn't win a medal, 'cause they do like some medals after. She started crying, so that was good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:37 Then she cried because she didn't have any water in her water bottle. So I said, we've gotta go Tesco to get some dinner. I'll buy you some water in there. She just cried. Got into Tesco, just cried 'cause it was cold.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:46 The fridges were cold. They are cold. She just needs to go to bed. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, she's crying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:51 Then Alfie was trying to help, then he wasn't listening. They were just being, nuts. And I had a trolley. I didn't have a trolley, I had a basket. It was heavy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:59 They're trying to lean on me, you know. Sounds like hell. Yeah. Anyway, I'm by— I was trying to look for a lip seal, obvs. They don't sell them in there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:06 Couldn't find one for the love of me. Yes, they do. I kid you not.

Maria 0:10:09 At the end, down the bottom by the pharmacy bit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:11 Nowhere to be seen.

Maria 0:10:12 Really? Maybe you're a fucking animal.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:14 No. Yeah, I'm desperate. So anyway, I've got loads. You should have said I bought you one. I've got one in the car. So I was looking and this lady turned around and she went, She went, you are doing a really good job. Aw. Did you nearly cry? No, I didn't. Basically saying your kids are fucked, so good luck to you. I just looked at her, I said, I'm not. I said, but thank you so much. She went, no, you are. She went, I've got a 3-year-old, but you, you are doing a great job. Oh my God. And I feel like you need to hear that. What a lovely thing to say. Yeah, it's nice.

Maria 0:10:42 It's nice to put yourself out. Someone's trying to give you something good. Yeah. You did it the other day. So kind. We went to Brookfield. And you saw that lady, didn't you, with a nice co-ord on? And you, you do what I do. You were like, excuse me, I just wanna say that looks really lovely on you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:55 I did say that was really nice. And I said, that's M&S, isn't it? She was like, yeah.

Speaker K 0:10:58 I thought, I'm gonna go and have a little look. It's good. It did look nice, didn't it?

Maria 0:11:00 How about my good deed for the day today?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:02 Oh, Maria, you would've died. Oh no. I'm so hot. I could do with it now, to be fair. Maybe she'll come and fan me all over. We got on the tube. And there was a lovely couple. Nice. Yes. With their 2-month-old baby. Yeah. Who was not in the bassinet being held, which also gave me a bit of, cuz 2 months, you're not, you haven't had all your jabs on the tube. What's the difference of being in the pram to being in arms? Well, no, sorry. No, just in general, you, you know, like walking around with a baby scares me.

Maria 0:11:34 We've not had the jabs yet.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:36 You don't not go out. Don't forget the jabs.

Maria 0:11:37 You don't take a puppy out before jabs.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:40 Yeah. You, you don't go out for 2 months. No, but you shouldn't go to, but it's like if you go to, when I went with James to A&E, we had to go and sit in a separate bit. You should be careful of the surroundings. Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. You know, like the tube, it's hot. I mean, it's germs. Yeah.

Maria 0:11:56 I mean, you say all that, some people don't have immunizations.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:58 Thank you. So stop. Yeah. No. Anyway, I know that's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. So I, it's, it's, I feel like I'm being a bit out of order, but we did just, I was just sort of looking at that thinking, is this normal? The, the dad was sat down holding the baby who had a little dress on. And who had the mum? The dad had the dress on. No. The, the baby. Yeah. And the mum is fanning this baby. But when I say fanning, like every really erratic up, up the skirt, back of the head. I mean, it was hot, but it, you know, they were in there.

Maria 0:12:33 She must have been sweating, the woman.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:35 And then Natalie gave her electric fan and she was like, I can't watch it anymore. But she's like, But honestly, the whole journey up and down, up and down, up her back, up her— I was like, is that a bit excessive? I mean, the baby loved it. She was like nearly falling asleep. But you gave him the fan? No, I got it back.

Maria 0:12:53 Oh, right. No, no, no. I was gonna give it to him. And then I said to Elle, what's the pram look like? I said, what's going on here? And she went, nah, it's a nice pram and he's got a Ralph shirt. I went, nah, I'll have the fan back then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:07 No, they were getting off when we got off anyway. You're hilarious. But I know some people just— It was just about their time. It was probably one of their first outings. Yeah, exactly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:17 Exactly. They were just very keen, which is cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just thought— Very sweet. If Maria was sat here, she would be like, what are they doing?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:25 2-month-old baby in a dress as well. I know. Interesting. People do it though, don't they? I know, I was just saying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:30 They just put a little vest on. Yeah, I'm funny with things like that. No, I know. I know people do it, but I just, with the baby, I never, Like, it was like James was just in baby clothes for really long.

Maria 0:13:38 No, I remember Joanie, it was like this baking hot and she just lived in a little vest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:42 Vest. Yeah. Or like the little rompers. Yeah. But yeah, in a dress with a vest underneath actually. Was there? But like you could see the vest. I didn't, yeah. Maybe to soak up the sweat. They probably should wear a vest. They should. They should.

Maria 0:13:55 I need a vest on to soak up the sweat at the moment.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:57 It is the hottest thing in this place. Yeah, I know. I had Alfie last night, he was coughing. Well, yesterday I woke up, my eyes were streaming. My eyes? Yeah. I mean, you've been together today.

Maria 0:14:09 Mine were stuck together yesterday. I couldn't open them. Oh, what happened yesterday?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:12 Just hopefully. Even this morning, mine weren't. It's been all right.

Maria 0:14:14 I know, but this is what happened. It's mad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:17 Yesterday I was all, I genuinely, I thought, have I done something to my, it was all puffy and swollen all up here. It was horrible. But yeah, he was coughing. Lovely shower. I'd done all his hair lovely with the hot brush. Oh my goodness. Oh, mangled. The sweat. He lost, he somehow, his tooth fell out.

Speaker L 0:14:35 Tangled. Mangled.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:36 Mangled. Mangled. So we had all that drama. Tooth fell out, but there was lots of blood, which was strange. I'm not sure if it was quite ready, but I dunno if Ruby knocked it out or whatever they were doing. Whilst wandering around Tesco. But he sweats so much, the kid. I can't tell you, his hair this morning.

Maria 0:14:53 Matted.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:54 Matted and the curliest thing. Aw. I'm like, what is the point? What are you meant to do? And then he had me up about 3, 4 times last night. How about putting it in a top knot like you do sometimes?

Maria 0:15:03 Yeah, it's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:04 It's exactly what I'm thinking. Because I do the same thing. Exactly what I'm thinking.

Maria 0:15:05 In this weather, I do the same with Joni. I can do all her hair. Yeah. And if I don't plait it, she wakes up and it's matted.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:11 Yeah, true. But also, who wants to sleep with their hair down? Joni. Yeah, kids do. It's all in her face.

Maria 0:15:17 Well, today she had all her hair down. I don't understand it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:20 Well, it's different when you're out, but to go— my hair, the minute I get home, it goes in the highest bun on my head. Yeah. Can't wait.

Maria 0:15:28 Yeah, I'm having all my extensions out tomorrow. Really looking forward to it, babe. I can't do it anymore. I need a rest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:34 What do you mean you can't do it anymore?

Maria 0:15:35 I just need to see if I can do— style my own hair without them, and I think I'll be able to with the Dyson. I'm going away again, aren't I? I just don't want them in.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:43 I need a nice even colour, a little toner. How long have they been in for? Um, I don't know.

Maria 0:15:52 6 months maybe.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:53 Oh, not too bad. I mean, I lost a year of mine, isn't that?

Maria 0:15:56 No, but I need to, it's aggravating me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:58 What are you gonna do?

Maria 0:15:58 Just a little trim. I need a nice all-over colour of, I don't know, not a little bit darker than I am now to make it a bit glossy. Healthier. Just a bit healthy. Dark. A little bit darker. Yeah. And just have a little rest from it so I can put my hair masks in that when I'm away, et cetera.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:13 Nice.

Maria 0:16:13 I'm looking forward to it. I'll probably be crying tomorrow night. I'll feel like I'm bald, won't I?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:17 Well, it just—

Maria 0:16:17 Because I'm used to the hair extensions, but I think after a day I'll be fine. But nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:21 A little trim. Hair extensions. And I went to the hospital the other day just for an appointment on my foot. Yes. And they said I've gotta have an MRI. Oh, I beg your pardon. Wow. She loves it, doesn't she?

Maria 0:16:31 Sorry. Me?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:32 Loved going hollow, didn't you? Oh, it went hollow, was it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:35 No, it wasn't actually. I mean, no, I didn't really want to, but the pain that I was in before holiday, it's essential. So I went to see the consultant. He said I needed an MRI, which I thought was a bit dramatic, but anyway. What is that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:46 The one in the machine? Yeah. Yeah. I've never had one. Don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:49 But he basically said, we don't just want to look at the bone, which would be an x-ray. They wanna look a bit deeper. It could, yeah. Anyway, it's fine. So, I'm filling out the form.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:59 It was like, do you have a wig or hair extensions? So I ticked hair extensions.

Speaker L 0:17:03 The fucking rigmarole.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:05 Because, because they've got metal in 'em. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:07 Yeah. Yeah. I had to go down to the MRI bit. They had to put a magnet to see if, I said, what would happen? They said, well, you just feel like your head pulling a bit, but they were okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:16 She was like, can you take them out? I know, but it's weird. But it's the same as when I had my op and they were like, you have to take your hair extensions out. I said, well, that's not gonna happen, is it? But obviously the difference is— No, but it's the same as you gotta take your nails off.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:26 If I fall and nearly break my neck and end up in hospital, they're not gonna go, oh, hold on, gotta take your hair extensions out. No, but in cases where it can— I know, but it does blow my brain a bit. I had to sit and they were putting this magnet, then another woman come on with a magnet. I was like, what is going on? But anyway, we're all good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:43 You're all good. I'm not magnetic.

Maria 0:17:45 That's good. I'm sorry, I was trying to find, 'cause you mentioned your nails. Mm-hmm. We had a message from a lady today.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:54 I'm getting a new set. I'm so happy. I knocked one off today, didn't I? You did.

Maria 0:17:59 It wasn't good. Mine looked, mine looked good. Yours didn't. 2 off.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:03 You came without one.

Maria 0:18:05 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:05 Yeah, that's shocking.

Maria 0:18:06 No, someone mentioned your toenail.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:09 Yes.

Maria 0:18:10 And saying, Because you're allergic on your hands, it takes a lot longer, but possibly the toe could be that reason. Lovely. So stunning.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:21 So my toenails are gonna fall off, basically. Possibly. Did you— there's a thing. Is there? Aren't they changing the law? There's a new law. Oh, I saw that about gel. We should have read that. I didn't read that. It's very relevant for us. Oh, very uncomfortable.

Maria 0:18:33 Well, what is it then?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:35 Besides, I'm— there's— oh, I don't know. Like a law, like a new ingredient. I don't know, they're banning something. Oh, okay. Hopefully that will help me. There you go. I don't think it is the nails. No. My skin's great at the moment. Fair enough.

Maria 0:21:35 Hi ladies, Stacy from Kent. Really gonna keep this quickly, but another topic that I think we need to discuss. I've just been to a local, like, thing, like in our town they do like music 6 weeks in the summer every Friday night, blah blah blah. Anyway, it's, um, people at school that want to do reunions.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:02 Oh.

Maria 0:22:02 But it's always the ones that are really happily smugly married that then want to do the reunions. So it's like, oh guys, let's get together because I'm—

Speaker B 0:22:14 my husband's is like a pilot and she's got 3 houses.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:18 Gosh, I've never seen you for so long, but you bump into them at these random nights out in your local town. Anyway, that's what I think we should do, and that's also probably gone— oh no, almost at the minute. Anyway, Stacey and Fran, I think this would be a great topic.

Maria 0:22:31 I think Stacey's a little bit inebriated when sending that. I just thought it'd be a good topic. I mean, I'm not having a go, trust me. I couldn't think of anything worse than a reunion.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:45 Oh, yeah, no, not for me. I wouldn't, I mean, I don't think I would go. I wouldn't say I think of anything worse. Who's organising that?

Maria 0:22:57 Well, you're saying that. Your dad went to one and he's made a great friend out of it, hasn't he? Yeah. He went.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:04 Maybe it's something to do with getting older.

Maria 0:23:07 Um, but maybe who's got time to do it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:10 I can't even see my mates. That's what I'm saying. I mean, I mean, it would be interesting, but would it? Is there anyone I really want to see? And then it's all that small chat. So what are you up to now?

Maria 0:23:21 I genuinely, I couldn't think of anything worse.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:25 No, no, no, I don't think it would be for me. And I do think she's right.

Maria 0:23:29 I think the people, Stace, that organise them are super happy and they want to brag about their lives.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:36 But they're nice for people that are maybe lonely and would like to— Reconnect. You know, yeah, reconnect with maybe there could be an old friend. I mean, I'm in a group thing on Facebook. Yes. I dunno how I've got onto it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:47 Oh, really? Yeah. The Soul. Yeah. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:50 So I think there is maybe social media, maybe, I dunno how much that happens now 'cause of social media, you can just be in groups, can't you? And connect and talk. But then the other day I saw our old PE teacher on LinkedIn. He's retiring. So I put a comment saying, like, oh, you're a legend, good luck with it all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:08 And he replied saying, love teaching all the Cassidys, or something. Oh, that's lovely. Except for Ilya.

Speaker J 0:24:14 Oh, but that's nice. He's so cute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:17 Yeah, he's great.

Maria 0:24:19 I thought you said he'd died. That was when we were on holiday. I thought you said he'd died.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:23 No, you were definitely pissed. Oh, fine.

Maria 0:24:26 Fair enough. We didn't drink much on holiday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:31 We weren't terrible.

Maria 0:24:33 Oh yeah, we're out of control.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:35 We were on holiday. We had a lovely time. We did. It's only 'cause we were in charge of the bottles. If we were in a hotel, we would never have known.

Maria 0:24:42 No, that's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:43 Yeah, that is true. And also, there's a lot of us.

Maria 0:24:46 I know, it's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:48 You, you know, 4 people, that's a bottle of wine gone. Yeah, agreed. It was excellent though, wasn't it?

Maria 0:24:53 It was so lovely. It was really good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:55 I think we should really talk about, I think to make not just talk about our holiday, is the, the pros and cons to villas. You know, if people are out there thinking, what should I do next summer?

Maria 0:25:05 Yeah, your mum have sort of gone into it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:08 Bastards. Sorry, Mum. No, just say your opinion.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:11 I was so against the villa, wasn't I? I was like, we've gotta do a hotel because who wants to be cooking and cleaning and this and that? But I feel like we were really good. There really is pros and cons. I think the fact that there were so many of us, everyone chipped in and did.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:26 Yes. One night, Dom was cooking, me and Nat did a lunch. Maria, you did a lot of the kids' Everyone did their bit. But for me, it was that getting up in the morning, not having to— before you've even had a sip of coffee, you're having to get ready, pack bags, pack all the stuff in a bag, sun cream, you know. I love it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:43 I love a villa. Mum would be like, well, I'm ready. I'll go. As in, I'm happy to go and sit by the pool. So all the kids would go with Mum while we're then still maybe doing breakfast for the babies, or— I won't say babies, they're not babies.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:54 Not for me.

Maria 0:25:55 Every time I go away, it's the kitchen for me. I'm obsessed with it. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:58 The kitchen was great though. So cute, wasn't it? I was the same in Greece.

Maria 0:26:02 I was just in the kitchen on my own.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:03 But you sort of don't mind doing it because, but then we are different. We enjoy cooking, we enjoy, and especially when you are buying the produce that you're buying, which is unbelievable.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:13 But also, like you say, 'cause you're in a villa, you're in the pool a lot late. Like when we went to Dubai, the sun went down quite early. Mm-hmm. And you've conscious you've gotta go and get the kids fed. You've gotta, when you are there, you can be out as early and late.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:25 So you don't mind having an hour or so, like, To be fair, some days it was so hot. One day, me and— and it was actually nice, me and Dom spent a little couple of hours in the kitchen together. Yeah. Having a chat. He was watching the golf.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:37 Dom was moving the whole telly into the kitchen for Dad to watch the golf while he was cooking.

Speaker N 0:26:44 Is that normal?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:45 And Dad, to be fair, like, he likes to be in there. No, Dad did, yeah. But we all did. Yeah, I think everyone checked in. But even, yeah, I just think— And there's always someone that, even when you're around the pool, there's always someone that's gonna, who's getting up. You're like, I'll go and get another bottle of wine or go, Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's fucking aggravating when you're just trying to quickly go for a sly wee and everyone's like, you're definitely—

Speaker N 0:27:03 You're doing it, you're doing it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:04 Yeah. You definitely weren't going for a sly wee. No.

Maria 0:27:07 But even going, getting out of the pool and just, you know, everyone, you know, you pick up a couple of glasses when you're going back in, that sort of thing. But as usual, your mum, yeah, didn't seem a lot, a lot of tidying. A lot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:18 But it was, it's that just a lovely experience. For me, it's the mornings of not having to get all ready. And even like the kids then, they're not going, mummy, I wanna, you know, like you imagine Alfie wants to go, but you are sorting out Ruby and you can't, they can just go downstairs, get on with it. Yeah. And then the evenings having to not get ready to go out. Unbelievable. Yeah. That's for me a game changer. It's a game changer.

Maria 0:27:41 But you know what I thought? When we go away, when we go away as family, like the 4 of us, well, who am I getting ready for?

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:47 No, you're not. You know, I don't have to.

Maria 0:27:51 No, no, I know, but I don't need— I can put my hair back and put a dress on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:55 Yeah, but you can do that with your hair. I wouldn't go out if my hair was wet from the pool. I'd have to do it. Yeah. So, you know, I just can't. Yeah, I can't wear it like that. Especially with extensions, we can't. We have to wash it. But to get out the pool with soaking wet hair, have a shower, leave it wet, come down in a little dress or pyjamas, it's unbelievable. But it's even just— I know there's a getting ready element, but it's even just the whole year not having to go out and Sit with other people. Oh, and the kids are happier. Yeah. Because they have people to play.

Maria 0:28:24 Well, because I was saying, yeah, and their imaginative play, wasn't it amazing on holiday? They were all playing together with different things.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:29 They were so imaginative. Well, one night we, I was doing jokes with them. They were, they loved it.

Maria 0:28:33 Every night Alfie loved, with Joni we played Uno, but he's playing properly now. It's just—

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:37 Well, we were playing games, they played, stayed up with us, didn't they?

Maria 0:28:40 I've really, I've really missed everybody this week. I get a little bit, I'm a bit strange like that, you know? No, like, I was gonna say, no, like the separation. I really, I don't like it. Like, I love seeing the children all the time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:52 Yeah, it was lovely.

Maria 0:28:53 They were, they were very good. And I miss Dominic as well. Miss the golden boy, don't I? Some quality time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:59 No one gets that sort of time with him. No, it was, it was a lovely holiday. The children were very, very good. They were. The pool was beautiful, wasn't it? Lovely. Obviously we lucked out a bit with the pool. It was huge.

Maria 0:29:10 It was big.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:10 So when everyone's in it, you don't feel like you're on top of each other.

Maria 0:29:13 The only thing that was a nightmare was The infinity side. I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:17 And all of that, all the floats or all the toys kept going off the edge. No, all the toys. If you book a villa with an infinity pool, it's not what it's cracked up to be. Nah, don't bother. If you've got children with little fishes and stacking cups and blocks that are all just falling over the edge.

Maria 0:29:31 The poor boys, every day it was like, could you go and collect all the toys up again?

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:35 Although we gained a few lilos that people, they must have got over and people thought, fuck that.

Maria 0:29:40 Leave 'em.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:41 Or wondering where they've gone. Probably didn't even realise. Yeah, probably didn't even look.

Maria 0:29:45 Stupid assholes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:46 The evenings did feel like they went quick. They do because we, I think— Because we were getting out late. Well, yeah, and you feed the children and then by the time we ate it was late and then, yeah, the evenings— No, we didn't do bad. I mean, we—

Maria 0:29:57 He was having 2 o'clockers most nights.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:58 I know, but you do because by the time we, sometimes we were eating at 9, half 9.

Maria 0:30:03 I know, I do it on a regular basis here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:05 Yeah.

Maria 0:30:05 Not 2s, but it's always midnights if me and Mark want an hour.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:08 Yeah, playing a game. There's a lot of you. It's hard, isn't it?

Maria 0:30:11 Well, it was really lovely. I really hope we do it again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:14 Yeah, I think as just one family, unless you've got like 3, 4 children, if you— I think that's— Yeah, see, I always see the villa thing as like 2 families. If there's more than one family, I definitely think the villa thing, kids can be up playing, you can have a conversation. Even for me, it was lovely to be able to go, right, it's 8 o'clock. Yeah, he was— James was having some later nights, 8, 9 o'clock, go to bed, I can relax then.

Maria 0:30:37 Yeah. But that's why I know, like you say, I am one family, but that's a big family. That, that mostly the reason that we do it, because the children can then get in bed and you have a nice lounge. You can sit downstairs. Yeah. You can relax.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:47 Yeah. 'Cause especially for you, you otherwise you don't ever, you don't get any time. No.

Maria 0:30:51 And again, having Eliza who sleeps in. Yeah. Again, imagine that. I don't know, I probably would now 'cause she's older. Oh yeah, you could do. But I would find it a bit weird, or going down to a pool in a hotel and leaving her up there. Leaving her. I'd probably be like, come on, we've gotta go now. Yeah. Whereas she can have a kip and you are down by the pool. Yeah. When you're making stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:08 Yeah. I feel like even, even in hotels though, like, obviously you've got all the entertainment, but by that time sometimes the kids are a bit tired. At least in a villa they can just go and, if they wanna go and play with their dolls, they wanna go.

Maria 0:31:21 I don't like entertainment.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:22 Yeah, you don't like entertainment. I hate it. Yeah. Yeah, I've got no interest. Yeah, it doesn't. Don't like it. Again, if James was at an age where he wants to sit and watch it, then of course. But I mean, I think again, different. Your children are older now, so If you were in a hotel and it, you know, they might make some little friends or they would maybe play. Whereas for me with James, all he wants to do is just walk around. So I'm not sitting down. No, no, no, absolutely.

Maria 0:31:47 Yeah. Yeah, it's not enjoyable, is it? Just running around all the time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:50 It's just different. Yeah, it's just different.

Maria 0:31:52 Sorry. Today we went to the Covent Garden Transport Museum, which was lovely. It was really nice. His first time on a train, wasn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:59 He loved it.

Maria 0:32:00 But you know when you have like, bars where you're not allowed into the old carriages and stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:05 Oh, he's—

Maria 0:32:05 I dunno how he got in there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:07 Within about— I was standing with him and I think this woman said, do you want to look at this? And I went like that and he slid under it. He will get through any gap possible.

Maria 0:32:16 He was running, you were running after him today, weren't you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:19 Yeah. Well, that was like, don't worry about the pram, leave it, he can walk round.

Maria 0:32:23 No, but he enjoyed it.

Speaker O 0:32:24 I don't need to walk round. I need to let him wander round.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:26 But what a lovely museum. It's a lovely one.

Maria 0:32:28 Was it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:28 It's only small. But it's really, it's nice. All the old trains, the horse and cart. Yeah. It was really nice. I've never done that. It's a nice one.

Maria 0:32:37 And if you pay, again, summer holidays coming up for people, and it isn't an advert obviously, but it, it's one of those you pay today, but that ticket you've got on your phone and you, it's the whole year.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:47 Oh, that's nice.

Maria 0:32:48 So again, it's £23, something like that, but you have it for the whole year. The children are free.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:52 I was gonna say, is it just for that? So just the adults. So again, if you go, if you go a couple of times a year, it's worth it. But children, all children are free? All children are free. Oh nice. It was cute. And also then you're in Covent Garden. So then we went out, you got all the people doing all the entertainment. It was like a total London day with the kids. Really nice. It was really nice actually. We had a bit of lunch, obviously weather was lovely so we could. Where'd you have lunch?

Maria 0:33:12 In the little Italian.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:14 V-Y-T-A? All cream. What, in the square? In the square, in the piazza. Nice.

Maria 0:33:20 But you had all the jugglers out. It was like being on me holidays.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:22 It's lovely, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:23 Was, yeah, that's what I did in, When did we go out? Where was this thing? When was that? Earlier on in the year. Oh, yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:31 It was a beautiful day, but it was a Monday, you know. We took to see Gypsy Kings. Obviously, Monday's just a bit— Yeah. But we were in Covent Garden. We sat up, you know, the Punch and Judy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:41 Yes. Up there. That's what it was like. Tea on a Monday, it was buzzing. Fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:44 It's a bit of atmosphere, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it is nice. Just a lot of people in the summer holidays, innit? Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:50 Was it, was it busy? Well, I don't think it was busy. We did well. I think Covent Garden's Always.

Maria 0:33:54 To be honest, it's always, 'cause it's such a touristy place.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:56 Yes. No, but just summer holiday, like for me who goes to things. Mm-hmm. Everyone's around. And it's like, you, and then you— Or even what did we do the other day? It's summer holidays and you're like, oh great. And all the kids are— Oh, Ruby's birthday. We even just said we'll pop to the park. It was so busy. Oh my God. Oh no, it was so busy.

Maria 0:34:11 No, I don't like that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:12 No. No.

Maria 0:34:13 It's terrible really, isn't it? I do like things a bit quieter.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:16 Yeah. I'm so glad. Same. So I'm like, I'm not really doing much in the old holidays. Yeah, same with that. Like, well, like going to the zoo. Absolutely not.

Maria 0:34:24 I know, but also people have to do it within the holiday. Oh no, of course. Yeah, well no. 'Cause that's the time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:29 Well no, their kids are off. They don't, it's not their fault. I'm just saying for my selfish reasons. No, I get it. And anyone else that has a child not at school will be, that's at home with them, they'll understand that.

Maria 0:34:38 Yeah, absolutely. But can I just say, I can't believe how organised people are.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:43 Yeah, always.

Maria 0:34:44 They have to be. I mean, I've looked at the Roald Dahl Museum. Which is just past Watford. Where's that? I've had a little look and I thought that'd be a lovely day for me and Joan. Or, you know, just having a look. I'd like to do a few things with Joan.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:55 I'd love that.

Maria 0:34:56 Yeah. I'd love to do that. Fully booked. Fully booked.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:00 What, is it just a pop-up thing then? No.

Maria 0:35:03 Hey. It's a museum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:04 We can go another time then.

Maria 0:35:06 No, I know. I'm just saying, I can't believe people do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:08 Yeah, but people do have their days off, don't they? Or they've booked time off and they know what they're doing.

Maria 0:35:13 No, it makes me feel terrible that I'm a bit unorganised.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:15 But it's because you haven't— It's because your work is different. More flexible. Yeah. So you might not book something 'cause some, a job might come up.

Maria 0:35:22 Yeah, I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:23 Same as Christmas. Yeah, exactly. Whereas other people are working full-time or 4 days a week, 7 days a week. So they know, they know what days.

Maria 0:35:30 Yeah, already I've got a day, I've already, I've got a day in the diary, November the 5th. I've got an event that I need to go to, so I'm not around for Bonfire Night. Talking of Bonfire Night, I've bought you a present.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:40 What day does that land on? Do you know what? I'm not even bothering 'cause Ruby fucking cries every year. I think this year she might be all right. She might be all right.

Maria 0:35:49 I'm not gonna open them for you. For the sake of our listeners and not visual watchers, I've bought some elegant autumn 2-pack velour tea towels from B&M's, £4. The leaves are falling. There we go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:03 Thank you. What's happening out there? It's all kicking off. Hold on. £1 each. It's summer.

Maria 0:36:09 There we go. I went into B&M and I couldn't believe it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:13 I mean, I don't know, you're saying that. I guarantee you in about 3 weeks we'll start seeing Christmas stuff.

Maria 0:36:18 No, but I couldn't believe it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:19 What are we now? July? It's fucking July. These aren't very good. I bought 'em as a joke.

Maria 0:36:24 They're £2 each. I thought you could, they'll be nice. What? We haven't got one each? Yes. Where's Maria's pack? No, that's one each.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:32 We've got one each. Well, I don't want that one. I want that one. Okay. I love the leaves.

Maria 0:36:36 Fine, leave it out. Leave it out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:38 You can have them, my love. I'm, I'm all right. No, I like the white one actually.

Maria 0:36:44 Anyway, I just had to buy these. No, you were nice. We can't start talking about the bermumps yet, surely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:50 Oh, the bermumps. I'm not excited yet. No, I'm not. Do you know what? Last night I was sitting there.

Maria 0:36:56 I'm changing my tune. Changing my tune. She is. I'm enjoying summer this year.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:00 I mean, it's— I feel like— hold on, there's 100 conversations. Go on. Sorry, just quickly. Last night I was sitting there and I looked out the window and I think it was about quarter past 9. It's pitch black. Quarter past 9, pitch black. Right, what's your point? It's July.

Maria 0:37:17 What do you mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:18 It's mad. It's mad. Longest day of the year. I know. It's Eva's birthday. I know, I'm just saying it's weird, isn't it? Yep. Already now it's getting dark. Mm-hmm. I'm dreading that clock change. Although I did say— Love it. I do. I'm looking forward to a little cosy night in, Strictly on the red wine. All the Strictly.

Maria 0:37:38 Have you seen who's doing Strictly so far? Let's have a little chat about that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:41 Go on.

Maria 0:37:42 So who we got?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:43 Lacey. Lacey, buzzing. Lacey, Lacey. Lacey.

Maria 0:37:45 We've got Jamie Winston. Oh, nice. Jamie, Jamie up the road.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:49 Lovely.

Maria 0:37:50 Oh, I think it's gonna be a bit of a character on there. Yeah, she'll be good. She is a character.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:53 I'm gonna commit to it this year. Yeah, do it.

Maria 0:37:55 Yeah, I think it'd be good. Dani Dyer's back.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:57 I've got a lot of presenters, haven't I?

Maria 0:37:58 Dani Dyer's back. I wish Dani was back, bless her. Because obviously she had an injury, and I'm pleased they've done that for her. Yeah, yeah. That's really nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:05 Who else we got? I don't know, you fucking brought that up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:07 Someone from House of Dragons, some actress or something like that. Oh, and the very famous hairdresser to the Kardashians. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, I did see that. Oh, what's his name?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:16 Is he a celebrity or a hairdresser? He's a hairdresser, but he's, Celebrity hairdresser. Celebrity hairdresser. Is he a character? He looks a bit of a character.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:23 Yeah, he was married, I think. I dunno if he's got children and then he come out. Okay. He went through that sort of journey. Okay, fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:29 What's his name? Lovely guy. Yeah, great guy. I think he's gonna be a great one. It's our mate.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:34 Lovely guy. Great guy.

Maria 0:38:36 Fantastic guy. What about, talking of mates, Ricky Gervais calling me his chum?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:40 I know.

Maria 0:38:41 Well, it wasn't Ricky, it was The Sun newspaper, which is a load of bollocks. Oh. But anyway, we'll go for it. I've watched all the series.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:49 He's tagging you in a lot of shit though.

Maria 0:38:50 He don't leave off. Collab, collab, collab every day, Rick. Do us a favour. I'm busy, mate. Busy here. No, he does. He's very good at his press, you see.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:00 He is good at it.

Maria 0:39:01 Even when you think about someone like that, how big they are, and the amount he's collaborating, you know, getting the series out there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:09 Why is he so obsessed with it?

Maria 0:39:10 Because he's very, very good at his PR.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:13 He knows what he needs to do.

Maria 0:39:14 But yeah, I've watched it all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:16 Is it good?

Maria 0:39:16 Yeah, I've got one more to watch.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:18 It's fantastic. Is it? Yeah. And I'm really chuffed and proud of my bit. Aw. I wanna show you it, but I'm not allowed at the moment. No.

Maria 0:39:26 Embargoed. I'll show you later.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:28 No, well, watch. It's not— it's next week and it's out. Yeah, I like it. I'm away. I'll watch it when I'm back.

Maria 0:39:33 But it's, no, it's excellent. Is it? It's just, yeah, what you would expect, but animated form. But it's brilliant. Excellent.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:41 Really good. Football starts soon. So that's gonna take over every bit of watching. Not really for me. No. I love it, but it does, it takes over. I can't after the World Cup. It's fucking done me in there.

Maria 0:39:53 No, but it's different Premier League.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:54 No, no, but it's just the dedication. I mean, yeah, the late nights have absolutely ruined me.

Maria 0:43:07 Oh, I was listening to LBC the other day and they were doing the whole hosepipe thing. Ah. And the bloke come on and, I mean, brave of him 'cause it is illegal. He was like, well, I'll tell you what I've done. I've just filled up my hot tub. And she was like, what? With the hose? He went, yep, I've done it. Do you think the people who have put the hosepipe ban in place, do you think the director of Thames Water hasn't got a swimming pool? He said, and I'm gonna keep using my hosepipe. and continue.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:35 You went in once. No, but the swimming pool's already full up. No, I know. No, but you know. Yeah, no, fine. Someone I saw on my Facebook has put up a thing of the paddling pool saying, I've kept this clean for 2 weeks, I'm so proud of myself. And I'm like, have you? Or are you— I can— I don't care. But I'm like, she's trying to justify it.

Maria 0:43:54 Justify it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:54 But, um, it is mad though, innit? Because the grass, the grass is— I mean, my grass is finished anyway. It's a real shame. I was gonna have it all relayed.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:04 I was gonna have it all done and there would've been a hosepipe ban. Well, that's sort of what we've done. So it's a real shame 'cause our brand new beautiful green grass is fucked. Is it? I'm not laughing, it's not funny.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:15 Is it really? No, I know. All our plants, everything that we, I mean, we can use the watering can. We're gonna, we just have, we've been going around with the watering can. You have to.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:25 We haven't got loads of grass though, have we? The grass? Sorry, the plants. The plants, yeah. Why don't you just pay the fine and use the hose?

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:33 Why are you laughing? Why can't you laugh? Why can't you? You're not allowed to use the hosepipe. Why not?

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:40 No, listen. But you can put the hosepipe in the watering can. Now I understand. No, you can't. No, you can't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:46 You can't use the hosepipe. So how am I filling up the bowls? In the kitchen. Well, why is that? Or from the water butt.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:52 The tap, the tap outside. We've got some water butts that are fucking dry at home. Well, it hasn't rained for 38 days. But hang on, the tap outside. Yes, darling.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:03 I can't use it. Oh no, you can use the tap.

Maria 0:45:04 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:05 Without the hose on it.

Maria 0:45:05 What?

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:06 No, I can't. No, you can. No, you can't. No, you must be able to. Oh, fuck it. What do you mean?

Speaker R 0:45:10 That's—

Speaker L 0:45:10 it's because when you're using a hose, you are losing lots.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:14 You're wasting water because it's dripping, or you've— the hose goes like that. So you're— it's about consolidating. Ooh. That is wild. Into one area. So it's literally got a hose pipe. a watering can the size of me. No, I haven't. So you could fill 10 huge buckets of water?

Maria 0:45:36 No, no, you can't. Why? No, 'cause you can't fill up a paddling pool.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:39 But, but this is what I'm saying. And what I don't understand, what they should say is—

Maria 0:45:45 34 tomorrow.

Speaker R 0:45:46 They should stop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:47 What the, the ban should be on having a bath. Any adult, anyone over the age of—

Maria 0:45:52 Oh, yeah, 'cause a shower uses more water. That's what we're— Fuck. That's what we're talking about. It's like the hose. If I fill up a shallow bath, I know the volume of water I've used. If you're standing in the shower, I mean, Eliza's probably caused a hosepipe burn.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:05 Yeah. With a 40-minute shower. And washing up. I'd leave the tap on. Sorry, I do, I do. Yeah. I don't when I'm brushing my teeth. Sometimes I do. Or washing my face. Oh no, you shouldn't do that. That's bad. Why? I always turn the tap off. No.

Maria 0:46:21 Mark has a go at me for that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:22 You should. When I brush my teeth and I leave the tap on. Do you leave it on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:25 No, I forget something and he's like, you've gotta turn that off. No, I do always turn it off. That could not be the most wasteful thing. You're not using it for 2 minutes while you're brushing your teeth. Yeah, that's poor, that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:36 All right, I'll stop doing that. Kat would be fuming. She told me off once when I stayed at her house. Really? Well, we can't all be perfect, can we?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:42 No, but the tap, that is wild. We're not all like you, Katherine. No, that is wild though. The brushing of the teeth, just up there. Yeah, but sometimes I'm cleaning the sink whilst I'm doing it.

Maria 0:46:51 Sure. That's true. I do that as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:53 You lot talk shit.

Maria 0:46:54 How about when I'm in the shower and I take the plug out and I'm giving it a little rub round? 'Cause there's a bit of dirt on them and that. I'll just go, you know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:00 Well, what you should do is run a bath and then all use the bath water.

Maria 0:47:03 Get in, get in the bath. Loads of people do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:06 I know, we used to do it. Yeah. It is quite sad though, because like you, you're growing all your vegetables.

Maria 0:47:12 Yeah, but I'm watering those with my watering can.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:15 Oh yeah. They're being watered. It's all, I don't get any of this. None of this is making sense. You're allowed to use a watering can. But it, but it's, you're still using the same amount of water.

Maria 0:47:23 But you're not, 'cause you're not losing it. Can I ask you what the farmers are doing? Their produce and their worries.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:30 Oh, they're obviously allowed, aren't they?

Maria 0:47:31 I don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:32 They've gotta be, otherwise we'll be fucked.

Maria 0:47:34 You do know though, when you do, I have to repeat, I know I keep repeating myself, but you do know that— Oh, here she goes. When you ask a question on ChatGPT, what's that noise?

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:45 What's that?

Maria 0:47:46 It's a bird.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:48 Oh, very loud. A bird.

Maria 0:47:49 A bird. Bird is the word. When you ask a question.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:54 Yes, I do know.

Maria 0:47:54 Bottle of water.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:55 I know. It's a bottle of water. But why?

Maria 0:47:57 Because of the data centres, they're so hot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:00 Oh, there we go. Yes. So I mean, it's fucked for the environment. So what we've said is— But we've had hosepipe bans before.

Maria 0:48:05 No, I know that. But because it's been so severe, I think the data places should be open 3 days a week, not 5.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:12 They're everywhere. Why are they everywhere?

Maria 0:48:14 Well, that's what's biting me permanently.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:16 They're fruit flies, aren't they?

Maria 0:48:18 Oh, are they? Well, they're everywhere.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:20 But this is what I mean. All this AI stuff now that everyone's using.

Maria 0:48:25 Yeah, it's massive.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:26 I know we can't water our garden. We have had hosepipe plants dying, fucking living things dying, and things I've spent a lot of money on. I'll be gutted if they go. Honestly, I will not be happy. Yeah, mine's, mine's. It's really bad. And also it takes a really long time.

Maria 0:48:42 No, I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:42 To do it. It takes a long time with the hose to, to, so, so to do it with a watering can. No, I've got time. That's crazy. That must be taking hours. I'll be, I'll be going out later and it's, I will. See, I've just left mine. I've done nothing. My grass, you've never seen anything like it. Straw. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. But once— Mine's getting there. Once the—

Maria 0:49:05 It'd be lovely for the Burmese so you can put a scarecrow outside with a hat.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:08 Actually, I could do that on Octoberfest. Yeah. Perfect. Well, we'll all be fucking doing one at this rate. No, I'm not. A blow? It's that chest infection that I had from holiday.

Maria 0:49:20 If she said she had a chest infection once on holiday, she must have said it 15,000 times.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:25 People did have a really chesty cough. You did, cuz you don't stop vaping. No, no, but that was water, aircon.

Maria 0:49:34 It's a lot going on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:35 Was a lot. The aircon was Feisty, wasn't it? Mine weren't in my room. No, in, in the rain bit. Oh yeah.

Maria 0:49:42 Oh no, it was lovely though, coming inside and it's freezing. So nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:46 But it's just then when you went out late at night and you're like, fuck, it's still so hot. Yeah. You forget when you're inside. 'Cause we, again, that's mad. We stayed inside a lot of an evening. Yeah.

Maria 0:49:55 Whereas, thank God I did, 'cause I would've been hospitalised with the bites. I couldn't have gone out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:00 I mean, even I got bitten and I, that's not a regular occurrence. Mm-hmm. But I quite enjoyed being inside. Again, when you're on holiday, you like have to be outside, but it, it was so nice in there. We were quite happy. Very happy. Sat at that table.

Maria 0:50:12 I'd like to wish David a happy birthday today. Well, it's a week ago. She's dad. Well, I know, but I'd like to just say—

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:20 Happy birthday, Dad. Happy birthday, G.

Maria 0:50:22 Birthday. He went golf today, so we couldn't see him.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:24 So— Oh, Mum's calling me. There we go. She won't.

Maria 0:50:28 Maybe because— oh no, I was gonna say I posted the stuff. Oh, I haven't posted cards.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:33 Oh man.

Speaker S 0:50:34 Shocking. That was my idea today.

Maria 0:50:36 I did well, didn't I? Yeah. I said, let's go from Brock's.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:38 Because they live out the way. That's the problem. Oh, it's so true. Now I'm gonna have to go out of my way. Am I really gonna do that tonight? Yeah. It's your dad's birthday. Yeah. He don't mind.

Speaker I 0:50:48 Shocking. Really shocking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:52 Did we discuss the, the cost of things when we were on holiday?

Maria 0:50:55 Done it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:57 Wow. What did we talk about? We're not gonna talk about much. No, we did. But £1, €1.30 for a bottle of rosé. Maybe 2 years. What's everyone's— No, no. Dom got one for 1:30 and it was really nice. Mm-hmm. What's everyone's thoughts of weeing in the pool? That's what I'd like to know.

Maria 0:51:14 Yeah, it's not my thing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:15 Mine neither. Liar. Either. Liar. That is such a lie. But what I don't get is when you're drinking, it, you just constantly wee, so you can't keep getting in and out. It's not gonna happen.

Maria 0:51:29 I don't wee all day. So you see, yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:31 I mean, I have to say, you are talking to someone who we've been to London all day. No, I know. But when you're in the water, you just can't. It's just, I could have a wee. Sorry, guys. I could go for a wee and get in the shower and still wee. Mad.

Maria 0:51:44 Oh, so she wees in the shower as well. We're finding out. She's slagging me off for not washing my feet in there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:50 She's pissing all over us. No, not intentionally, but sometimes it's just a little bit comes out. Yeah. I don't, I think that's the charm. I think when you're, when you're in, what do you think? No, I think always when you're in the villa, And it's your own gubbins, it don't matter. Your own gubbins.

Maria 0:52:05 No, I'm sorry, I disagree with that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:08 Mark had a, Mark had a nap in the pool. Oh yeah, that's sweet. Mark had a full-on laying on the side, arms out, head like that. And we were, we were going, we are gonna go in now, so we are gonna have to wake him up. Because otherwise he might drown. Perfect. Enjoyed it. Had a full-on nap. But do you remember when you was younger and people used to say if you wee in the pool, it would go all purple round you? Is that just an absolute myth? I think that was from, I actually think that was from our sports centre. Someone made it up about that. Oh, really?

Maria 0:52:35 But also it's so, as a child, it's like saying, don't lie 'cause your hair will go, your nose will grow. Do you know what I mean? Or if you eat your crush, your hair will go curly. It's to stop you from doing it. I can't believe we're having that conversation at 40 years of age and a week. Plus one. I mean. Oh God. Honestly, girls, we're sort of over the 40s already. Have we got any other interesting messages to do?

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:00 I thought you thought age. You're talking about minutes. Me too.

Speaker L 0:53:03 She's fucking—

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:06 you got me obsessed now as well. 40 minutes, is that all?

Maria 0:53:08 Yeah, over the 40s.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:09 So tell me, you're 40 next. No, I'm not. Soon. Dom is, and Elisa is. No, I'm in this room. Oh. Um, so Annie will be 50 before I'm 40. That's not true. How old?

Maria 0:53:23 Are you taking the piss? I've got 7 years until I'm 50. All right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:27 Bloody hell. That's, we'll all be in the 40s together. That's nice. That is nice.

Maria 0:53:32 For a little while.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:33 For about a year. Amanda Jane, a message saying, making a chilli, suck the tomato puree tube for the first time ever. Oh my Christ, Mick, what have I been missing all these years?

Speaker T 0:53:44 Go on, Amanda.

Maria 0:53:45 That's brilliant. A chilli in this weather.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:48 That's crazy. I mean, when was it though? Wednesday.

Maria 0:53:51 Coming from you who said you were having a curry yesterday. You were making a curry. That's not true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:59 Yes, you did. No, I did— that was not yesterday. Oh, it was the day before. No, it wasn't. It was Friday night.

Maria 0:54:05 It's Friday night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:08 Yeah, no, no, it's fine. Chilli, I get it. I thought of another one the other day, having to have a spoonful of sweetcorn Oh, cold. All the time. And beans and baked beans. And beans. No. And baked beans. I put my finger right around the rim of the tin. Lick.

Maria 0:54:23 No, thank you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:25 Sometimes I—

Maria 0:54:25 I'm surprised you haven't cut your finger.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:26 Sometimes I lick the—

Maria 0:54:28 Well, that's very dangerous.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:29 Danger. James loves eating sweetcorn. If he sees the sweetcorn out, he loves eating it. And it just reminds me of you because you love it like that. So cute. I've got a message.

Maria 0:54:41 Yeah, cool. Go for it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:42 Hi, Nat and fam. Longtime listener here. Just thought I'd pop on a quick message first time to cover a few things.

Maria 0:54:48 Oh, I like this message.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:49 Spotted you and Mark at Wimbledon on Sunday, looking fab. You— was you there?

Speaker U 0:54:53 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:54 Oh, awkward. At least I hope it was you. Embarrassing if not.

Speaker T 0:55:00 Brilliant.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:02 Absolutely brilliant. I don't know what I said.

Maria 0:55:06 Mark was wandering around with Wimbledon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:08 I can't tell you. Maybe Morgana was there. Who knows? Uh, just watched England lose to Argentina. Or Honey G. Just watched England lose to Argentina. Gutted. I went to uni and got a degree and feel like it was a total waste of time. Can elaborate further if you wish. Oh, lastly, fuck off if you think I'm washing my feet every time I shower. Only on special occasions. Love the pod, love you all, but I have to say, Maria, you are my fave. Just love your banter. Lucy, fellow 13th of May baby. That's lovely, Lucy. Thank you.

Maria 0:55:44 Yeah, there's been lots and lots of new listeners that I feel have gone back from the beginning. Oh, that's mad, isn't it? It's really good. People are still discovering, people are still there. Can I just say thank you, massive thank you to our new family members on Patreon? It's really climbing. Is it? It's lovely. Thank you so much. And we've got a little treat for you all. We have got our brunch finally sorted out. So everybody listen, don't be annoyed if you're not a Patreon member, but obviously you get a little treat if you are. Guys, I'm wringing wet. Yeah, we can see. Can you see it? Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:21 Very shiny. Wow. What's— your upper lip is hairy. Oh shit. If it was that, I said to her today, I said, you've got quite a lot of hair all up your neck. You need to go and get it threaded. No, I can't. She went, that's what I'll do, my thing. I said, no, I think you need to have a shave.

Maria 0:56:37 No, but I think it's the microblading thing that I've got. Yeah. And I think it's made it grow back. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:42 You do it.

Maria 0:56:43 Yeah, I've got a thing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:44 Oh no. It does grow back. Just go and get it all threaded.

Maria 0:56:47 No, I don't like threading on my neck. I have get a rash. I like frizz. I do. It's terrible. I'm up I did it all in my head once. It come up all massive. I was at EastEnders.

Speaker T 0:56:56 I thought, how are they gonna fucking cover it up?

Maria 0:56:58 Really bad, actually. Um, so EastEnders, how bad's that now?

Speaker K 0:57:05 What do you think?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:05 Yeah, I love it so much. Have you been watching?

Maria 0:57:10 Has it been good? I haven't watched it. I need to get into it again for the burnout.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:14 It is so good.

Maria 0:57:15 Is it? Yeah. Oh, that's good to hear. It makes me so happy. I really need to get back into it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:22 I've been watching, um, Max is excellent. Ian, God rest his soul, he's going to prison.

Speaker L 0:57:28 What?

Maria 0:57:29 No, don't tell me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:31 Is he going to prison? It's so good. Grey's in prison. Oh, I really need to catch up. All the kids, the little youths are all— Is it good? All youting.

Maria 0:57:41 Really?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:42 I've been watching the Katie Price documentary. It's so good, isn't it? So good.

Maria 0:57:47 I've just done the one with Alex Reid. It's really good. I've not got—

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:52 is she still with him? The man? No, Alex, the new— the man. Oh, I'm fucking— I'm lost with the whole thing. Very confused. Have you gone off the boil? It's just so confusing. Fair do. She's in B&M the other day doing CBD oil, though there's not apparently. I dunno. It's wild.

Maria 0:58:08 Well, there's gonna be, isn't there? Goodness me.

Speaker V 0:58:11 What do you mean there's gonna be? You should turn a few quid, innit?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:14 Well, I do. I'm starting to think it's all very Fishy.

Maria 0:58:17 Starting to think—

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:21 well, no, I was thinking that, but now it feels very like a setup just to get some— But the documentary's excellent. It is very good. She's great in it, actually. I love her.

Maria 0:58:32 So our live podcast, Nat's Nieces Brunch, is Saturday the 3rd of October at Hartford House Hotel. Now, For the first 48 hours from today, there will be a link on Patreon, so get in there. For any of our new members of the family, you can get in first. After that, the link will be live. I will post it up, and you can also go to Hartford House Hotel. So please get in there. There aren't many tickets. There are about 60 available only. So if you wanna come, get in quick. And if it goes well, we'll see how it goes, but it's gonna be a lovely time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:06 Exciting. We're getting down in the basement. Yeah, looking forward to it. It's a bottomless brunch. Yep.

Maria 0:59:12 So yeah, all the details will be online anyway, but have a little look. It's Saturday, October the 3rd, Hertford House. It's gonna be a good few hours of fun. Us girls, we're gonna have a chat, we'll be in the room with you, we're gonna do a little bit of podding, we're gonna record a few bits, and then we're there to chat to you for the afternoon. So it's gonna be a great, great afternoon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:29 Have a little boogie. We've got an excellent DJ lined up.

Maria 0:59:32 Cracking old Natty C.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:33 Oh, fantastic. He's a great DJ. Um, and we've got some other little surprises. A couple of little surprises as well along the way. So yeah, yeah, no, we can't wait to—

Maria 0:59:44 Nice it's organised and we've actually done it instead of saying, oh, we, but we'd like to do that and it never comes to fruition. So I'm pleased we've done it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:51 And also, if you— I mean, we're thinking 60 tickets isn't much, so if you don't get one and you're keen for it, let us know because then that will help us to plan what to do next. Can we go bigger? We want to try and keep them as intimate as possible, don't we? So we can actually spend some quality time with you all. But Yeah.

Maria 1:00:10 No, it'd be fun. Really exciting. So 07788 20 19 19. Let us know your thoughts on the brunch. Let us know your thoughts about the Boer months. Let us know your thoughts on summer and how you're getting on.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:22 Yeah. How you coping?

Maria 1:00:23 Have you booked anything fun in the Hertfordshire area for your kids? 'Cause I'd quite like to know, 'cause I can't find anything.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:29 It's hard, isn't it? Very, very hard. I mean, the kids did come home with like a little magazine thing from school. Oh yeah. Which I probably should have looked at. Probably, probably wise. I know, but I'm working. I'll try and take the odd day here and there. It'll be fine. They're all right, they're having 2 holidays, thanks.

Maria 1:00:43 Jeez, lucky, lucky kids we've got. Very, very lucky.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:46 Yeah, good luck. On that note, we'll see you soon.

Maria 1:00:49 I'm gonna go and jump in a nice cold shower. Oh yeah, it's absolutely roasting in here.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:52 I'll get the hose out if you want, hose you down.

Speaker W 1:00:54 Loads of love. See you later. See you later. Cheers. Bye. Bye.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:04 Bye! Bye!