EP246: Scraping the Barrel #48 – what’s Nat packing?

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:07 Hello and welcome to Life with Nat on this wonderful Thursday. I'm joined by Mark for a scrape in the barrel, or as Emma, producer, says, an SD— not an STD. An ST.

Marc 0:02:19 She, it's definitely not an STD.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:21 No, it's an STP. No, that's a sticky toffee.

Marc 0:02:24 No, STP is a, is a—

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:26 Sticky toffee pudding.

Marc 0:02:27 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:28 Jack's favourite dessert.

Marc 0:02:29 STP was an additive they used to put in cars. Oh. Micro Machines used to use 'em. Micro Machines.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:37 What's a Micro Machine?

Marc 0:02:40 Micro Machines. The little cars.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:45 No, you've lost me.

Marc 0:02:46 I've just had like a little— I forgot about Micro Machines. They were little tiny cars.

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:52 What, with tiny people driving them?

Marc 0:02:55 No, but you know, you'd have your Corgi cars or your Matchbox cars.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:00 Matchbox I've heard of.

Marc 0:03:01 Like that sort of big. You could get Micro Machines. They were tiny little— tiny.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:08 And they had STP in them.

Marc 0:03:11 No, I had a, um, a racing kit with a little lorry and it was blue with STP, and STP apparently was an additive for— they'd obviously done a brand deal with Micro Machines.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:23 I see. Anyway, this is an STB, right, which I like. I like Emma, you know, shortening it up.

Marc 0:03:29 STB, Studio B, that used to stand for QVC.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:33 Oh, we're getting into all of the, um, Acronyms now. Yeah, good. How are you?

Marc 0:03:40 I'm all right, thanks. Yeah, I'm a little bit, um, tired. I had a busy couple of weeks at Wimbledon. That was fun.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:45 We're gonna go into that later.

Marc 0:03:47 Uh, yeah, do you know what? Do you know that briefing you gave me before this started? I'm not stupid.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:54 No, I know.

Marc 0:03:54 I wasn't going to start talking about Wimbledon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:56 No.

Marc 0:03:56 I mean, as if I talk about anything random all of a sudden.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:59 Never.

Marc 0:04:00 Never gonna happen. But I've gotta reference the fact that that's why I'm tired.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:05 You've been working quite a lot, haven't you?

Marc 0:04:07 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:07 But you just need to get over it, to be honest.

Marc 0:04:09 I've got over it, thanks. Have I moaned?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:11 No, it's just, you know what it is? You don't go to bed. So it's all very well being tired, but normal people, if they're tired, they'll come home, have a bit of dinner, they're in bed by half 9.

Marc 0:04:22 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:22 But you don't do that. So the whole being tired, you know, we were up till quarter to 1 last night.

Marc 0:04:29 Yeah, but we had loads of exciting things to discuss, exciting things on the horizon. Had a great phone call last night after work. It was really important. Yeah, just, you know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:37 No, it's nice.

Marc 0:04:38 Not sitting around.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:39 Live a little.

Marc 0:04:40 Well, burning the candle at both ends, as they say.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:43 So I, I've done some packing. I hate packing. Like, I really hate packing. Yeah. People find it easy. You find it quite easy to pack, I find. You're quite blasé about it. You'll do it last minute.

Marc 0:05:00 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:01 You never forget anything. You've got everything you need. For me, it's 2 days up and down the stairs looking at that. Do I need anything else?

Marc 0:05:09 I like how up and down the stairs is now a factor, like it's an issue.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:13 No, it's not an issue. It's just a day.

Marc 0:05:15 The last time I looked, you could definitely, you know, transit the stairs acceptably.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:19 No, it's fine. It's just that I've been up and down them so much today.

Marc 0:05:22 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:23 Where I've thought, oh, I've got a charger there, or I've gotta iron this and I need to do that.

Marc 0:05:27 I can imagine you doing this. I bet you're all over the place.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:31 There is a lot of all over.

Marc 0:05:33 I bet you can't just— I mean, I'm like, I can talk, we're both quite similar in that respect. All— I bet you're mad. I bet you're doing like—

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:42 One minute I'm ironing.

Marc 0:05:43 Yeah, but you need 4 pairs of socks, you put in 3, and then you go off and do something else because you think, I'll do the 4th pair of socks in a minute, and then you come back, then you do the 4th pair of socks, and then you go— it's like me, it's like me with anything that I end up doing. I, I go from doing one thing to the next to the next to I would really love to have a set of travel things in a box. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:03 So I'm talking about all my makeup. It's extravagant. I'm not saying I'm gonna do it, but I would like copies of everything because my worst nightmare is, oh, I need that before I go. I need the hairspray. I need this. I need my blow brush. I need my rock. Do you know what I mean?

Marc 0:06:23 Your what, sorry?

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:24 Roller or whatever it is. But I'm saying I'd like that in a little pack so I could— everything could be zipped up now by the door 2 days early. That's what I'd like to do.

Marc 0:06:35 But there'll be stuff in there. Uh, maybe not, maybe not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:39 No, I'm saying chargers, everything, doubles, doubles of everything.

Marc 0:06:42 I mean, you're always going away, aren't you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:44 Well, you say that, I'm getting a little bit more.

Marc 0:06:48 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:50 Adventurous. I'm enjoying it a bit more.

Marc 0:06:52 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:52 I like it because it gives us complete family time. We're away from everything and just concentrate on family stuff.

Marc 0:07:01 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:01 Phone goes away. Lovely. Yeah. So it'd just be nice to have all doubles of everything so you haven't gotta worry. That's what I find.

Marc 0:07:07 So you'd have doubles of everything in this bag. Mm-hmm. So you can just grab it and go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:16 Clothes? No, because that'd be ridiculous.

Marc 0:07:18 Oh, okay. Well, this is getting a bit more—

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:20 I sort of mean just things you need the night before. You need your charger plugged in, don't you, by your bed? You need— it would just be nice to not do that last-minute thing of putting stuff in a bag, right? I mean, it's completely extravagant and ridiculous. Some would say lazy, but there you are. I do have to tell you something though.

Marc 0:07:39 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:40 Which you're not gonna believe. Joanie's packed her case.

Marc 0:07:45 Yep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:45 Amazingly well. She rolls all her clothes Japanese style, saves loads of room. She's got plastic bags with everything in it. Really methodical. Really good.

Marc 0:07:56 I spotted that. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:57 Very good.

Marc 0:07:58 I dunno where she gets that from.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:58 We're both quite organised people.

Marc 0:08:00 Have you looked in your other side of the case?

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:02 It's all right.

Marc 0:08:04 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:05 She borrowed my phone. Yeah. And she said, I just need to print something out.

Marc 0:08:10 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:11 I was busy. I said, okay, whatever. And she had a little frame in her room with a picture that she'd drawn with her name on it.

Marc 0:08:19 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:20 She's printed out a picture of Alan Carr.

Marc 0:08:26 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:27 And put it in a frame to bring on holiday.

Marc 0:08:33 Fair enough.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:33 Now, she's a girl after my own heart, 'cause I love a camp man. However, that is a bit mad, isn't it? She said, I, I'd like to bring the picture, and she was quite defensive about it.

Marc 0:08:47 That's an interesting one. I might have to ask her about that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:50 But it really tickled me that she'd got her frame. She'd put a really funny— once she gets it out by the bedside table, I'll do a pic if you will. But I just thought, out of everybody in the world she could have a picture by her bed, she's chosen Alan. Because she's been obsessed with watching Alan since Last One Laughing. Yeah, that's true. She loved him in that. Then she's gone on to Amanda and Alan. She's loved that. But she really, really loves Alan Carr. And I love her for it. Girl after my own heart.

Marc 0:09:20 Excellent. Right, that's a bit random. Where, where was the frame from?

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:28 In her room. So she had a little picture which she'd drawn.

Marc 0:09:31 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:32 And she'd sort of, so she's covered that over obviously. Right. 'Cause she wanted it in a frame.

Marc 0:09:35 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:36 But it really made me laugh that she'd thought about that.

Marc 0:09:38 Quite a few frames in there she could have had.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:40 I don't think we need to use a new frame for it, if I'm honest.

Marc 0:09:43 I wonder who I'd take.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:44 What, in a frame?

Marc 0:09:45 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:45 Who would you take along?

Marc 0:09:46 I dunno. It's a strange one. I mean, I don't really know why she's chosen the, He obviously makes her really happy. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:55 If I'm honest, I could have a picture of Alan Carr by the bed quite happily.

Marc 0:09:59 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:00 He makes me happy, so it's quite a joyous thing to look at. I think his new series is out, actually, The Changing Ends.

Marc 0:10:10 Is it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:11 I think so. We need to catch up with that. We liked that, didn't we?

Marc 0:10:13 It was very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:14 I did tell Joanie about it and she got very excited. I don't think she's started it yet.

Marc 0:10:17 Okay. Surprised you not watched it all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:19 No, I know, very good. But thank you. What I did want to say is we had so many well wishes for Joni after the arm break, but I can confirm she's back to her normal self. She's doing loads and loads. We went to the hospital yesterday for a checkup and it, it took me an hour to park the car.

Marc 0:10:40 Well, what, what's new?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:51 I park my car very well.

Marc 0:10:52 The other day I was in your car and I put it in reverse. When you put it in reverse, the mirrors automatically adjust to how you need them to reverse. I put your car in reverse and one of the mirrors just pointed up at the sky. I use my camera. I know, just— I thought, says it all. That mirror's not been ever— it's never been used. Never been used. You've not noticed that when you put your car in reverse, it points at it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:14 No, I've got camera.

Marc 0:11:15 Right. Really dangerous. No, it isn't. It's really dangerous. I have a look round. No, you don't. I have a scout round. You'd fail your driving test.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:23 When?

Marc 0:11:24 When you reverse a vehicle, what's the first thing you do?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:26 Look in your mirror.

Marc 0:11:27 Nope.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:28 Oh, look behind you.

Marc 0:11:30 Look over your right shoulder. Right. How many times have you done that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:33 Never.

Marc 0:11:33 Never. Right. Anyway.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:36 Luckily, I drive, so we're all good.

Marc 0:11:38 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:39 So anywho.

Marc 0:11:41 Any road.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:42 We went to the hospital.

Marc 0:11:44 Yep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:44 Appointment was at 2 PM. Mm-hmm. I said, we'll leave at half past 12.

Marc 0:11:48 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:50 That gives us half an hour.

Marc 0:11:53 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:53 To get there and park. Mm-hmm. If not 40 minutes, then we could go to Costa, 'cause she loves a little cheese toasty. And we'll have lunch there before the appointment. An hour driving round and round and round. I nearly parked it anywhere, but I thought, I don't want another ticket. No, but that's a long time, isn't it? And you can just see frantic people, obviously.

Marc 0:12:16 Didn't you just park it over the road like I did before? Like, Joni directed me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:23 Yeah, we went there. Yeah, it's all permit now and double yellows.

Marc 0:12:26 Oh. Okay. Fair enough.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:28 So she couldn't believe it. She said, me and Daddy parked down here, and she directed me.

Marc 0:12:32 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:32 To where you parked.

Marc 0:12:33 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:34 Now we're gonna park. Yeah. So that was a bit annoying.

Marc 0:12:36 You should just open the door and said, oh, go and sort yourself out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:39 Well, it was all right. It was fine because I'd left so much time. Mm-hmm. We ended up getting a space, so it was all right.

Marc 0:12:44 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:45 But yeah, they're very pleased with their progress, everybody. And, yes, thank you so much for all of your wishes. I've got a few here actually.

Speaker I 0:12:52 Morning.

Speaker J 0:12:55 It's Denise from Holbridge. Just caught up on your latest Scrap in a Barrel. Just wanted to say I'm so sorry to hear about Joni. And yeah, it's great that you and Mark are such a good team because yeah, it's not good when something like that happens. I really hope things are sorted so she gets her fit to fly letter as well. And yeah, it's been a really good episode today, and I just wondered, how did you get on going to the shops in your bikini cover-up? I'd love to know. Take care, lots of love.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:27 Well, Denise, I got on fine. Thank you for the message. Yeah, I— the cover-up that I'm talking about is a very kind of long leopard print number, long sleeves, quite long, and has buttons. So when I said cover-up, it could be a bit deceiving because it does look like a leopard print sort of dress, but I was fine. Went in without a problem, without a shadow of a doubt. Not an issue. No one really looked. So yeah, it went down really well. Thank you.

Marc 0:13:56 Sorry, what, what are you talking about? I've just sort of caught up. I was sort of daydreaming then. What, what was the cover-up thing about?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:02 Me going to the shop in my bikini and a cover-up when it was really hot.

Marc 0:14:06 Don't remember talking about that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:07 No, well, you don't listen, do you?

Marc 0:14:09 That wasn't of you and me though. I think so. No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:12 No, I think it was.

Marc 0:14:13 Oh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:14 I hope Joanie's doing well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:16 Sorry to hear she's broken her arm again. Bless her heart and yours. Totally understandable that you'd be having a breakdown about it. It's your baby and you'd rather have the pain than them. And then your holiday coming up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:27 We work so hard, look forward to them from the minute we book it. So when something puts a spanner in the works, it is a big deal. I hope you can have an amazing time. Enjoy your break. Pods are amazing and I always look forward to the next one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:39 Love, Fern. Isn't that lovely? It's true though. You feel like you're, um, overreacting, but you're not really. It was a big deal, wasn't it, at the time?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:48 I know we're okay now. But it was traumatic.

Marc 0:14:51 Yeah, of course it was. Terrible timing, terrible thing to have happened.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:56 Absolutely.

Marc 0:14:57 Awful.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:57 And then do you remember when we were talking about that and I said we were a great team? Yes. And when emergencies happen, we really stick together. And I said to you, not, you know, there will be people that don't do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:09 And you were quite against, you were like, no, everyone must stick together in those situations. Listen to this. Hi Nat, listening to the last Scrape in the Barrel about supportive partners. Years ago, probably 10, 11, my friend was walking her daughter to school, and as kids do, the little one was a few yards ahead with her little friend. Suddenly, a car reversed off the drive and ran over the top of my friend's daughter.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:33 Still awful, but thankfully she went right under the car and the wheels missed her.

Marc 0:15:39 Blimey.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:40 Obviously, it was still incredibly traumatic for all. After she was checked by the ambulance, I took the little one into preschool with my own child just to make her day about having fun rather than the trauma of the accident. I then took my friend to the GP and had her checked over and got her sedated, as of course she was understandably a wreck.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:03 I called her now ex— important to remember— husband at work, and I told him what happened, and his response was, Well, she didn't get hurt and they're both okay, so I don't need to come home. I gently lost my shit with him. A couple of hours later, he knocked at my door looking very sheepish to collect his daughter, who had spent the rest of the afternoon in the paddling pool with my son after preschool. I've never known such a lazy, narcissistic pig in my life. I'm glad they're no longer married and she's happier than she's ever been.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:38 Good for you. Good for her. He sounds like a really horrible man. There's more where that came from.

Marc 0:16:46 That's weird because I had an ex-wife whose child once got— no, I didn't really.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:50 I think you'll remember this message. When we got this, we both looked at each other and said, well, at least it's not just us.

Marc 0:17:03 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:04 This is from Helen. And Helen said, hi Nat and Mark, just been listening to today's pod and I just wanted to say I totally sympathise with Joni's broken arm.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:15 My daughter Lucy has broken 13 bones since her first fracture when she was 4. We are on first name terms with the plaster team and orthopaedic surgeons. They joke they will name a wing after her. Her first break on the left arm needed surgery. Second time I left untreated for 3 days.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:34 Oh my God. And the third roller skating literally the day after her cast had come off. She was invited on a ski trip and my reaction was absolutely not. I hope Joni heals quickly and isn't too uncomfortable. From Helen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:49 13 bones. I then messaged Helen.

Marc 0:17:52 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:52 And I messaged her and said, sorry, may I ask you, is there any deficiencies or anything wrong with your child? Because, you know, as we think, you overthink things and what have you. Yep. And she said, no. Nothing at all. They just said it's bad luck. But she is—

Marc 0:18:10 But have they done tests though?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:12 Yeah.

Marc 0:18:13 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:14 But she's hypermobile. So being hypermobile obviously is a factor. So I wonder if Joni's a bit hypermobile.

Marc 0:18:22 What does that mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:23 Don't really know.

Marc 0:18:23 Okay. Do you know what Tamika said to me today?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:26 What did she say?

Marc 0:18:26 That Joni, we need to get Joni every night to put some books on her head.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:31 Yeah. Balancing. She told me that when I phoned her.

Marc 0:18:33 And get to walk in a straight line. Yeah. And I said, do you know what I'm gonna do? That's, that's a really good game each night for Natalie. See if she can do it, especially after 6 o'clock. So everyone had a right old laugh in the studio. Did they? They thought it was hilarious.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:46 Well, I'm dyspraxic, so yeah, Joni could be dyspraxic like me.

Marc 0:18:49 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:50 But she can ride a bike and she can ice skate and her balance is better than mine. Who knows? We might all be hypermobile. I don't know how you check that out. I don't know.

Marc 0:19:01 I don't know what it means.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:02 I don't know. Helen also said one of the reasons she isn't with her husband anymore is because of certain things to do with those accidents, and she's happier than she's ever been as well. So there's plenty of people who really take it seriously.

Marc 0:19:17 To, to be clear though.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:18 Yeah.

Marc 0:19:19 Is that, that's not because of anything like dodgy?

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:21 Oh, no. No, no, no. That's what I thought, what it just sounded like. Sorry. I beg your pardon. No. No. Yeah. It's about them not being supportive and— Right. not being around.

Marc 0:19:29 Yeah, but—

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:32 What do you mean, but?

Marc 0:19:32 There was another message which I've noticed you haven't chosen to read out, which is fair enough. What was it? It wasn't very good. It was on that same subject.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:39 Oh, really?

Marc 0:19:40 So it's fair enough. But, um, yeah, it's disappointing to hear that. I don't really know how you could be— well, I don't know. I don't know what to say. But for— it was— the good, the good news was there wasn't loads and loads of messages about People.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:55 Well, here's another one. Hi Nat, listening to your Scraping the Barrel episode and you asked if anyone out there had partners who were less helpful in an emergency situation. Well, myself and my 2 children were involved in a car accident. I ended up in A&E.

Marc 0:20:09 This is the one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:10 And my other half had left me there on my own because he wanted to go home for a beer. Once I'd finished in A&E, I got an Uber home. I shit you not. Amy from Northampton.

Marc 0:20:21 That's really bad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:24 That's bang out of order, isn't it?

Marc 0:20:25 I was quite shocked at that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:26 However, yeah, if you— not the children, but if you had a little tumble over or something. Yeah, no, no one cares.

Marc 0:20:38 I can tell you for a fact. Do you remember the time I had blood pouring down my head and Eliza was petrified and crying?

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:45 Oh, I do remember that.

Marc 0:20:46 And you absolutely did not give a monkey's— I did.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:49 I got you a flannel and I said it'll be all right.

Marc 0:20:51 You did not care. And Eliza was screaming at you saying, you've got a—

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:54 I got you a cold compress.

Marc 0:20:55 Natalie, you— How did you do that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:00 I can't remember now.

Marc 0:21:01 I bashed it on—

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:02 Was it like a cupboard door or something?

Marc 0:21:03 Yeah, something like that. It's quite, quite a lot of blood going everywhere.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:07 And it wasn't a lot of blood, I have to say. Well, okay, you're overdramatizing it, but yeah. All right, I did give you a cold compress and I said, I think we'll be okay.

Marc 0:21:17 I don't think you did.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:18 I did. I remember folding up the tissue and putting some water on it and giving you a cold compress. Like a nursery teacher.

Marc 0:21:24 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:52 Sorry about the planes, everybody, and the birds, but it's still baking hot in here.

Marc 0:23:59 I don't apologise for stuff that you probably won't hear.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:01 Oh, do you think so?

Marc 0:24:03 The other day we didn't need a fan.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:05 Really?

Marc 0:24:07 Nope.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:08 That's good to know, isn't it?

Marc 0:24:09 No, and quite often, I mean, it depends what you're listening on really. Yeah, if you're listening in your car, you probably wouldn't hear it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:16 Because of the noise outside?

Marc 0:24:18 No, just because of how close we are to these microphones.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:20 And I see what you mean. Fair enough. The old post went down well, didn't it? I don't mean postman, I mean the post about the postie.

Marc 0:24:32 What, the 500— no, sorry, 800 How many? It was a lot. There's a lot of views on that video.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:38 A lot of views. You know what that is, sweetheart?

Marc 0:24:40 Yeah. Go on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:41 People are kind.

Marc 0:24:42 Right. People are lovely. Can I just say, the thing is about that video, I'll tell you now, people are missing the point. No. The point was you answered the door in your bikini. Plenty of people, I think about 1,000, have said, yeah, I've, I've done that. I've given the postie some—

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:58 Yeah. Someone cares what I'm in. Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.

Marc 0:25:02 Disagree. And, and again, irrelevant. Irrelevant. Okay, fine. All right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:10 However, next person to knock on the door, you can go out in your pants.

Marc 0:25:14 Absolutely fine. Yeah, my wire fronts, be fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:17 Just wear the ones that aren't stained, or the ones you turn inside out and then round the other way, and you know what I mean, those ones.

Marc 0:25:34 I need some Y-fronts, actually.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:35 Pardon?

Marc 0:25:37 I need some Y-fronts. No, you don't. I do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:40 You want, you want Y-fronts?

Marc 0:25:42 I might start moving into them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:43 Oh no, stop.

Marc 0:25:44 No, I might do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:45 I like you in your boxers.

Marc 0:25:46 Okay, but I just feel that they, they don't do as much as the, um—

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:51 But as in hold? Yeah. M&S have got a new range in, right? An underwear range for men.

Marc 0:26:00 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:00 Which have a lot of secret support.

Marc 0:26:03 Secret support?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:04 Yeah. You know, so you can't see it. That's what it's, it's sort of like a bra. You get secret, or, or you can get knickers, which are secret support for women cuz they sort of hold your tummy in, stuff like that.

Marc 0:26:14 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:14 But they've got pants, I think, within sort of enlarged things or Pardon? A little bit of padding in them.

Marc 0:26:21 Shut up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:22 I might be wrong, but yeah, I think so.

Marc 0:26:24 M&S?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:25 Yeah, they're big on their underwear, but they've got some really good, really, really good undies for men.

Marc 0:26:32 Right, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:34 Oh, we'll have to have a little look. I've got a pant—

Marc 0:26:36 We? I'm quite capable of buying some pants.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:38 I've got a pant try-on to do with Tony yet for Patreon. I can't spoil it. Oh, maybe we both do it. Well, I can't move on to pants for you as well.

Marc 0:26:44 Well, maybe you could economise.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:45 That's true. We could both do it. Yeah. Yeah.

Marc 0:26:48 Probably a bit weird, but okay.

Speaker M 0:26:53 Hello, babe. I had to send you a message 'cause I've just been catching up on podcasts and I was listening to the, um, Scraping the Barrel with you and Mark about offering the postman an ice cream. Last Thursday when it was really hot, my children were at home and we were all out in the garden. I had my bikini on, heard the dustman come, and I actually run to the front door Opened it, remembered I had my bikini on, and thought, oh my God, what am I doing?

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:21 So shut the door again, called the kids and said, kids, run out and see if the dustmen want a drink.

Marc 0:27:30 But they went out and the dustmen said, oh my God, yes please, we'd love 4 glasses of ice cold water. You're the only people that have asked us.

Speaker M 0:27:38 We have got water, it's in the trunk, but it's gone really warm. And it made me feel really sad. But yeah, no one would have wanted to have seen me in my bikini. Or maybe they would, who knows? I don't like seeing myself in my bikini, but yeah, might cheer them up, mightn't it? Anyway, happy Friday!

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:54 I bet everyone wants to see you in your bikini. Love yourself a little bit more. And luckily I just asked for 4 glasses of ice cold water because you sort of left that open. Is there anything you want? Hey, risky, isn't it?

Marc 0:28:11 Is it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:11 What if they said, yeah, we'll all have 4 cups of tea, for instance, or I know it was hot, but they could have said anything. 4 pints. I think that's risky.

Marc 0:28:23 Right, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:24 And if you remember, I did realise I was in the bikini, but I was sort of already there, and I just sort of popped my head out to him when I offered the lolly. Yeah, I didn't sort of go out and flaunt myself, so to speak.

Marc 0:28:37 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:38 Natalie and Mark, although don't know whether to use Nat or Natalie now. Very good. But use what you like. I don't mind at all. Just listen to Scraping the Barrel, ep 241. We've done 241 of these?

Marc 0:28:51 No, darling, but you've done 241 episodes of your podcast.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:56 Oh, sorry. Fucking hell.

Marc 0:28:57 Yeah, we do about one a month.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:59 For a minute, I thought—

Marc 0:29:01 We would have been doing it for about 40 years. But yeah, you carry on. Sorry. 241. No one would be listening now. 241s of these? No chance.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:13 When you talk about offering your postman an ice lolly, I do this, just not in my bikini, haha. If I'm at the door, I'll always offer a drink, as will either food delivery people or any delivery person for that matter. In this extreme weather, an ice lolly. The number that say yes or are so surprised and appreciative— small gestures go a long way. I've had a supermarket delivery driver having a cup of tea in my kitchen on a freezing day, and even the bin lorry driver was over the moon at being offered a squash as he needed to keep his sugar levels up. From Heather. I mean, Heather's gone the whole hog there.

Marc 0:29:51 I mean, imagine what the neighbours think.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:53 She's got delivery drivers in the kitchen, you know, having a cup of tea.

Marc 0:29:57 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:57 I don't know. I don't know if I'd do that.

Marc 0:30:02 Well, I hope not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:03 I'd offer something out. I don't know if I'd invite people in.

Marc 0:30:06 Oh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:08 I mean, if it was Laura, our longtime listener, delivering something, she'd come in.

Marc 0:30:13 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:14 She'd probably have a bit of dinner.

Marc 0:30:16 I mean, yeah, as if, as if you'd invite a fan round to our house to come and sit in inside the house. Just, you know, a bit weird.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:25 Lesson learnt there, eh?

Speaker N 0:30:26 Oh, nah, I'm just listening to Scraping the Barrel and you offering the postie a lolly. That I do the exact same, and I think it is lovely and we should never change. If ever anybody delivers anything, or I've done it for the bin men in the past where it's been hot and I've left ice lollies or some Coke Zeros out.

Speaker N 0:30:48 I've always got Coke Zeros in the fridge because I've got a bit of an, bit of an addiction. So yeah, I'm, I'm— last week especially, any Amazon deliveries, you know, daily, I was offering out Coke Zeros. It's rare that they take me up on it, But when they do, I can see that they're really, really grateful. So yeah, stop being so miserable, Mark.

Marc 0:31:07 I wasn't being miserable. I was talking about the— it was nothing to do with offering the stuff. There's some funny old messages because that video, by the way, on, on the Instagram account, because, because it had so many views, there's quite a lot of comments and there's some very funny ones. Some people that don't— I don't think they're necessarily fans of the podcast that have commented as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:29 Oh, that's all right. I like them ones.

Marc 0:31:30 It's quite amusing. The old Daily Mail readers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:31 It's quite funny. They're all good.

Marc 0:31:34 Hello, Nancy, it's Sean again. You're not going to believe this, but your postman reference—

Speaker O 0:31:42 Martin, my husband, is a postman, and I've said it before and I'm saying it again. You must think I'm some kind of nutcase who, whatever you say, I'll come up and go, oh yeah, me, me, me, I've got that too.

Speaker O 0:31:55 But I just can't believe that the things you say, I have— there is some kind of connection to me. So yes, Martin's a postman, and we were having this very conversation last week because he was telling me that people are being really, really friendly and offering him water and, and something to drink when he knocks on their door with a parcel, or, you know, pops a letter through the door and they catch him. And he said, I'm really, you know, it makes me feel really happy that people want to do that. It's really kind. He said, trouble is I can't accept the drinks on all of them because then I need to go for a wee.

Marc 0:32:27 And there's nowhere to go because he delivers out around Sevenoaks, so it's like in the countryside. And I mean, he could just stop, go behind a bush. We've had that conversation before.

Speaker O 0:32:39 But yeah, so he, he tends not to take all the drinks. So of course, when I saw your Instagram thing today, as well as listening yesterday to the pod, I said to him, ah, what would you do if a lady in a leopard skin bikini came running out at you to say, would you like an Ice-O-Lee? And he laughed and he went, oh yeah, I'll definitely take the Ice-O-Lee.

Marc 0:32:58 He said, um, Not sure about the leopard skin, leopard print bikini, but yeah, I'll definitely take an ice lolly.

Speaker O 0:33:05 So no, you weren't mad. You were very kind and very thoughtful, and there would have been hundreds of postmen who would have probably beaten down the door to get to your ice lollies. Take care and just keep being you. Don't, don't stop. Offer the next postman an ice lolly and they will be truly grateful. Take care. Bye. Bye.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:27 I love Sean. Sean again, she says. Always messages every pod.

Marc 0:33:32 Near Sevenoaks. Nice, nice part of the world.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:34 Lovely part of the world down there. I remember, um, there was a big electrical shop there, wasn't there? Loads of tellies in it. Was it a Sony or something?

Marc 0:33:41 Richard Sounds.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:42 I just remember it, loads of tellies in the window.

Marc 0:33:45 Yeah, what, in Sevenoaks?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:47 Yes. Don't know why.

Marc 0:33:50 What a random thing. I know. Why were you in Sevenoaks?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:52 Oh, me and Jack Ryder.

Marc 0:33:53 Oh, I thought he was in Tunbridge Wells.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:55 He was, but we went to Sevenoaks a few times, had a wander around.

Marc 0:33:58 Fair enough.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:59 Bless his heart.

Marc 0:34:01 I've got a question for you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:03 Spain have just obliterated France, by the way. We've just missed the semi-final there.

Marc 0:34:10 No, that was Tuesday night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:11 Pardon?

Marc 0:34:13 That was Tuesday night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:15 People know that this is not on time, darling. I'm so confused. They're not stupid, are they?

Marc 0:34:19 We don't, Don't mention— it's a bit up the wall. Don't mention the football.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:22 Don't mention the football.

Marc 0:34:23 And let's not talk about what happened last night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:25 That's all brilliant and it's all good fun, but the football's on tomorrow night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:29 There's a lot going on. I've bought a projector screen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:33 I've bought a projector to take away with us. It's, it's very, very stressful. Very, very stressful. You'll be all right, won't you? Because you're at home.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:44 You'll be fine, won't you? Sat at home. watching it. I don't know if we're going to be able to stream it. I don't know what's going to happen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:51 It's very, very stressful.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:57 Anyway, oh dear, we shall see, we shall see. I have to say, I was very upset to miss the Wimbledon men's final on Sunday. I had a wonderful event actually, and I loved it, but I've really, really enjoyed watching the tennis this year. Didn't watch as much as I'd hoped But I watched enough to get excited. How was the final?

Marc 0:35:18 It was good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:18 Was it well matched? I didn't see really any of it.

Marc 0:35:21 Uh, well matched, as in, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, I think it got— I think you could, as we've always— I think you can tell with tennis when there's like suddenly a turning point and just sort of happens in the, in a space about 20 seconds. You just see it happen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:35 Yeah.

Marc 0:35:36 And, and that kind of happened and that sort of Incredible, the tennis.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:41 Yeah, the mental side of it, being on your own. Yeah, I know you've got your team up there and they sort of go to their team and they look for their team after each shot, but you know, those solo sports, I do— I've got a lot of time for them. The golfers, tennis players, racing car drivers. It's quite pressure, a lot of pressure.

Marc 0:36:00 Saw a few fans of the pod when I was there. I saw, um, Hannah. So Tim's mum. So—

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:07 Tim's wife? No?

Marc 0:36:13 Yeah, I said Hannah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:14 You said Tim's mum. Hannah, Tim's mum.

Marc 0:36:17 I saw Hannah. I saw Tim's mum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:19 Ah, there you go.

Marc 0:36:20 Bad grammar.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:22 It's all right. Well, I had some lovely, lovely, uh, messages from different people talking about Wimbledon, saying they'd spotted you. Lots of people were playing Where's Marky on the Patreon. They were shoving up pictures left, right, and centre. So thank you for those. Very, very good. Steph sent a lovely picture of you. Look, lovely.

Marc 0:36:51 Yep, I had a few of those.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:52 Karen Fisher. Karen said, yay, Mark, I've just seen you on the telly at Wimbledon. I've been looking out for you. So thank you, Karen.

Marc 0:36:59 I got a photo sent. You're gonna like this one. Go on. This, this was a good one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:03 Pauline said, complete and utter hats off to you. I was completely melted in the shaded part of the stand. How you work in over 30 degrees is incredible. True, it was hot for you, wasn't it, darling? Not a drop of rain for 2 weeks.

Marc 0:37:17 It's been pretty hot in general, hasn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:19 I know, but to sit and work in it.

Marc 0:37:21 It was hot. Yeah, down the courtside it was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:23 Loads of people saying, dunno how you do it, hats off.

Marc 0:37:25 We had, um, in the second week, A lady called Katie, who's a listener, was there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:30 Yes.

Marc 0:37:30 She managed to get a photo from quite close by. It's quite— Yes. It's almost like paparazzi style.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:36 So true.

Marc 0:37:37 I was on my camera and then suddenly looked and there was a photo of me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:41 I'm gonna find it for you. One moment, please. Oh no, I'm not. It's a shame. Where is that then? What about that one? Who's that one from?

Marc 0:37:55 That's off the telly, isn't it? Yeah, and I think it's off the telly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:00 I wasn't quite sure.

Marc 0:38:03 Yeah, don't know, could have been in person. Is that a bit weird?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:07 Do you find that weird that people are looking for you?

Marc 0:38:09 Same thing happened last year, to be completely honest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:11 So no, but do you find that concept a bit strange, or is it fun for you?

Marc 0:38:15 It's all right. I mean, I'm— it's not really the object of the exercise to be on telly. And there was less fish here. Hmm, must have been a bit more discreet.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:26 You're very prominent, I find, on the old cameras.

Marc 0:38:29 What do you mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:30 When you're on one that's on the telly, I always feel that you're sort of to the side.

Marc 0:38:34 I've got a side mount viewfinder.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:35 I see.

Marc 0:38:37 So I'm sort of stood looking. Do you remember that time? Uh, do you remember you text me going, get off your phone? I was like in the middle of a football match. Um, football. I was in the middle of a tennis match and I came off on my break and there was loads of messages from you saying, get off your phone. No. You text, kept text. And it's because I was looking at a viewfinder and it was side-mounted and it was— I was looking down.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:59 Oh, right. Okay.

Marc 0:39:01 But I thought, hang on, I've been doing that for 2 hours. Did you genuinely think for 2 hours I was on British national television? No one's gonna notice that when I'm on a camera following a tennis ball on my phone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:13 On the old dog and bone.

Marc 0:39:14 Not gonna happen, is it? Impossible.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:16 No, I don't remember that, darling, at all.

Marc 0:39:18 One funny thing, you know, talking of the final.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:21 Yes. So how were all the stars? Did you spot a lot of stars?

Marc 0:39:25 Well, obviously on the final there are loads of people in, but yeah, every bloody day there's people there. Yeah, but on the final they're everywhere. And it was interesting because where I was for Summer for Final, um, we were at the sort of at the back of the tennis court, sort of looking towards the Royal Box. And those seats where you came and sat with my mum that time—

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:47 Yes.

Marc 0:39:47 And those seats, um, tend to have people who have like been in the Royal Box over the couple of weeks, like little comp tickets perhaps. I don't know, I don't know what it is. And anyhow, on the, um, so on the way into the camera, you have to sort of climb over people. So I come up to give Emma a break and I'm climbing over these bits and I'm thinking, and as I'm climbing over, I think, oh, I recognise you, recognise, oh yeah, sorry, excuse me, you know, and everyone's having a bit of a laugh and a chat and, you know, it's all very jovial.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:17 Of course.

Marc 0:40:18 And then I sort of sit down, I look back and sort of, it's almost like to survey the damage of who have I just climbed over. There was like a load of people I didn't reckon, well, I recognised but didn't know who they were. David Tennant was there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:29 Oh yeah, lovely David.

Marc 0:40:31 He was very polite, I climbed over him. And there was all— anyway, so that was that. But what's funny is we changed over cameras and Emma was sat next to me. She'd just been on for a couple of hours and there was this almighty champagne cork pop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:44 Classic.

Marc 0:40:47 But, but usually that happens all the time at Wimbledon. It happens every 20 minutes. But it happened. It was right behind her by this camera, like absolutely like the seat behind. And there was an exclamation of like, you know, scream and whatever. And, and then Louis Ferru— this is the most surreal thing, isn't it? I look around, Louis Ferru grabs it, puts his hand over the end and stops it going everywhere.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:12 Yeah.

Marc 0:41:13 And he just looked at me and he just went, wow.

Marc 0:41:17 He was, he was horrified at what just happened. Poor Emma was petrified. She just looked around, she's like, blimey. And, and then the cork had like got wedged like under her seat and there's all this. Anyway, That, that about an hour later, I said, how funny.

Marc 0:41:32 That was bizarre, wasn't it? What a strange situation. I mean, what, when you're at work, you're at work. Oh, and this champagne bottle went off beyond my head and it startled me, but I got this all right because Louis Ferru put his hand over the end and it stopped me getting wet. He found it.

Marc 0:41:46 It's really weird, isn't it? Strange, strange life. You only think it's funny, this, whilst, while I'm doing the Wimbledon final, working on it. Yeah, yeah. Whilst that's going on, that's going on up there.

Marc 0:41:56 I just found it funny.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:58 It is funny.

Marc 0:41:59 Random little anecdote, but you do see some funny people.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:01 I can really imagine Louis Theroux saying, wow, in his voice.

Marc 0:42:05 He sort of looked over his glasses and just said, wow. And I'll tell you about that. What got me after that, I wasn't starstruck in any way, but I did think, I mean, obviously the thing about Louis Theroux is he does those long-form documentaries. You spend a lot of time watching him.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:21 Yes, you do. Yeah.

Marc 0:42:22 So it's an interesting one that it's not just, and, and not only that, He's done some pretty incredible things and met some incredible people. And—

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:32 Oh yeah, he's an incredible man.

Marc 0:42:33 I wonder how many other times we can say the word incredible. My fault. Not better than lovely. Quite right. But, and when I say incredible people, obviously, you know, there's some dodgy ones. There's some also— yes, fascinating. And I just thought, wow, like, what have you— well, it's full circle now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:49 It's like James, wow.

Marc 0:42:51 Literally just bookended it. That's right, that was Louis Ferré.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:55 Brilliant. James's favourite word. He'll go— he'll do far if he carries on.

Marc 0:42:59 Well, no, anyways, that was a fun little thing that happened on the last day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:03 Very good, very good. I love watching it. David Beckham always goes with his mum, doesn't he? Yeah. Love that. Sandra.

Marc 0:43:10 Yeah, he wasn't there for the final though. No, he was at the football.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:13 He was at the football with Vicky, uh, Vicky B.

Marc 0:43:15 She was well happy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:16 She Seemed very excited.

Marc 0:43:19 Not in the photos that I've seen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:20 I'm being sarcastic.

Marc 0:43:22 Oh, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:24 I mean, it wasn't a, a drop of emotion in her, was there? Although I do really like her. Good luck to her. That's the way she is. Have you had a row? No, I don't think so. I just think she's probably there and she was hot and thinking about loads of stuff, probably thinking about her next collection or when she's gonna be the editor of Vogue or, you know what I mean? She's probably got a lot on.

Marc 0:43:42 It reminded me a little bit, Of when we went on the Festiniog Railway and the sort of face that you, Joanie, and Eliza were pulling for pretty much the whole weekend.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:52 The difference is the Festiniog Railway hasn't really, um, given me a better life, has it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:25 You know the lady that mentioned Coke Zeros and having an addiction to Coke Zeros and having them in the fridge? No. Are you joking?

Marc 0:46:37 Nope.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:37 We've just listened to her voice note, Mark.

Marc 0:46:39 No, we haven't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:41 We've just listened to the lady talking about the postman and the bin man and that she gives out Coke Zeros because she's addicted to them.

Marc 0:46:48 Oh, I missed that one bit. I heard about the giving out the Coke Zeros, not the—

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:52 What I was going to say is we are— we don't drink sugary drinks, do we?

Marc 0:47:01 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:01 Only alcohol, obviously.

Marc 0:47:03 Well, but I think I was gonna say be careful here because I think we more than make up for that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:08 No, I know, but what I'm saying is we're not a house that would have Fantas or Liltz or Coke Zeros. That's true. The kids never drink it. We never drink it.

Marc 0:47:16 We drink water all the time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:17 Water.

Marc 0:47:18 Water filter gets hammered.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:19 It's, um, it's flashing, needs redoing. All right, can you do that for me?

Marc 0:47:24 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:27 Thank you. Here's a lovely message, a little bit random, but I liked it.

Marc 0:47:32 Hi Nat, hope you're well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:35 Um, I'm just catching up with Scraping the Barrel from the other week. For some reason, I always listen to Scraping the Barrel when I'm in the bath. I wonder if anyone else does this, but I'm just like always in the bath with you and Mark. Is that weird? I just find it so relaxing and just like I don't know. And then you make me laugh and it just makes the bath experience even better.

Speaker P 0:47:58 Anyway, I'm just laughing at Mark, sort of stereotypical woo-woo person, and I'm in there with the sage and the crystals and the incense. But how funny would it be if Mark started getting obsessed with it and then one day you wake up and he's just got chimes all over his trains?

Speaker Q 0:48:13 I don't know why I thought of that image, but Mark, you're gonna get obsessed, babes.

Speaker P 0:48:19 Join the club. You're gonna love it. Lots of love.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:22 Brilliant.

Marc 0:48:23 Obsessed with, with what? Chains?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:27 Chimes.

Marc 0:48:29 Chimes. Right. Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:31 The, the moon stuff that I talk about. I've—

Marc 0:48:34 That's not gonna happen. Sorry to disappoint.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:37 You never know.

Marc 0:48:38 Okay. Why might I get obsessed with that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:41 Well, something might happen and you might go into— Okay. wanting to know a bit more about your inner self.

Marc 0:48:47 Nah, I'm alright.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:48 You might think about the world in a different way and think, oh, is it the moon that does that to us?

Marc 0:48:53 Or are you just a lunatic?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:55 Or because we're over 90% water and the moon, you know, absolutely—

Marc 0:49:02 How does it— tell me this, right? You're, you're an expert on the old moon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:06 I, I didn't say I was an expert.

Marc 0:49:07 Sorry. You're, you're into it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:09 The tide How does the tide work, Mark?

Marc 0:49:13 That's my— that was absolutely my question.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:15 How does it work?

Marc 0:49:17 I'd like you to tell me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:18 Well, it's about the moon, isn't it? It's a gravitational pull.

Marc 0:49:20 Of the, uh—

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:22 Well, you know more than me.

Marc 0:49:25 No, I mean, this is really interesting.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:26 What I'm saying is we're 90— over 90% water. So how can we not be affected by the moon that controls the sea?

Marc 0:49:34 I have to say one thing I will say about the old moon. All joking aside, it is a bit weird because there have been many occasions where I felt a bit funny and I've looked outside and it is a full moon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:45 Correct. The police say it.

Marc 0:49:48 I mean, they say it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:50 The police say they have their busiest nights when it's full moon.

Marc 0:49:52 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:53 A&E, they know when it's a full moon, people working in A&E.

Marc 0:49:58 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:59 Major big thing.

Marc 0:50:01 But going back to the gravitational pull of the, uh, The moon and the tides. It is the gravitational pull of the moon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:07 Yes.

Marc 0:50:07 That draws the water up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:09 So how do you think that that moon, if we're 90% water, doesn't affect us?

Marc 0:50:13 I remember that lesson in Cornwall. Remember we sat listening to the whooshing of the ocean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:18 So do I. Very good.

Marc 0:50:22 It's like the only thing I remember from geography.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:26 Is it?

Marc 0:50:28 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:30 What do I remember? I remember being quite excited about rocks, different sort of rocks and erosion, and doing a piece on that.

Marc 0:50:44 Do you remember about longshore drift? No. As many people now probably are with longshore drift.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:50 No.

Marc 0:50:51 That's quite an interesting one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:53 I was probably on Albert Square that day.

Marc 0:50:55 It's quite a big subject. Maybe it was a big block.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:57 Possibly.

Marc 0:50:59 Do you remember, like, what a spit does to stop longshore drift?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:03 No.

Marc 0:51:04 Okay. Do you ever do, like, rivers?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:07 A few rivers.

Marc 0:51:09 Yeah. Did you have to do, like, a big assignment for geography where you had to, like, study a river?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:13 Not that I remember.

Marc 0:51:15 No. What about map reading?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:17 No.

Marc 0:51:18 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:22 Didn't really like geography very much.

Marc 0:51:23 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:24 Just remember rocks, different names for them. Not that I can't remember the names, but found that quite interesting. And I loved the weather.

Marc 0:51:32 More like sedimentary?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:34 Yes.

Marc 0:51:35 Metamorphic? There you go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:36 That, I enjoyed that.

Marc 0:51:38 Okay. Tell me about it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:40 No, I really enjoyed that. I really liked, Learning about clouds. I still to this day love watching the weather after the news. I really, really respect weather people.

Marc 0:51:54 Well, you could definitely tell me something then, because I don't understand about the different— I know like cumulonimbus.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:59 That's it.

Marc 0:52:00 So what have I—

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:01 we had nimbus.

Marc 0:52:02 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:02 There was, um—

Marc 0:52:03 What's nimbus? I don't know. Nimbus cloud.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:05 No, I can't remember any of it.

Marc 0:52:07 Oh, okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:07 I'm just saying that I remember really enjoying those subjects.

Marc 0:52:10 I see.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:12 They haven't stuck with me. No. Um, but I've always liked the weather. Lovely Jamie, Brian's grandson, that's what he wants to study, right? Meteorology. Fascinating, that. Yeah, I like that.

Marc 0:52:29 You know, I've just noticed, if you— if I like look at you now, you've got like a white top on. If I forget about the Life with Nat sign behind your head, you could be doing— be at the Wimbledon press office.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:47 Could I?

Marc 0:52:49 Look at it, look at the background.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:51 I don't know.

Marc 0:52:53 It's the Wimbledon colours.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:54 I've not got eyes at the back of my head, have I?

Marc 0:52:56 No, but it's the same this side.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:58 Oh, I don't know.

Marc 0:52:59 The green and the thing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:00 I don't know if it's pink. What, is Wimbledon pink now?

Marc 0:53:03 Well, it's— but to be fair, it's more of a It's purpley. Yeah, it's that sort of— that's the Wimbledon colours.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:09 Oh, happy days.

Marc 0:53:10 Sorry, I've just— I just realised that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:11 It's a nice colour scheme, isn't it?

Marc 0:53:13 There you go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:14 I have to say, Claire Balding is amazing at her job.

Marc 0:53:17 It's brilliant.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:18 She's brilliant, Claire Balding. Really, really good at her job. Love it, actually. Very, very good.

Marc 0:53:25 Very good floor manager she works with as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:27 Daniel. He likes to listen to the pod.

Marc 0:53:30 He does.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:32 Hello, Daniel, please you listen. Got quite a lot of ice cream messages.

Marc 0:53:36 It's that time of year.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:37 Here we go. Hello, Nat and Mark, long-term listener and first time sending in a message. Just got back from Mallorca, or is it Mallorca? So confused, and I've been there. Well, I had to have a Maxibon and I went for a classic. Well, so disappointing. I really can't see the fuss. An Oreo biscuit ice cream is so, so much better. Sorry, Mark. Love the pod. Emma. Love that you've messaged for the first time, even though you've listened from the beginning. She had that much passion. She's not a fan, Mark.

Marc 0:54:13 I can only apologise, but you're very lucky to have enjoyed one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:16 Niecy messaged in. £1.75 for a Viennetta in I want to say, I want to say Waitrose, but would they sell a Vionetta?

Marc 0:54:34 I don't know. Why are you guessing?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:37 Because there isn't anything, but I believe I— oh, let's have a look. I realised the—

Marc 0:54:41 Go on. I mean, I guess I'll bet I can guess.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:45 Hang on a sec. The reason I'm guessing Is because I feel like I know the font.

Marc 0:54:52 Right, let's have a look. This is like the logo game.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:54 It is.

Marc 0:54:55 Oh, what other clues? Oh, interesting.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:02 It could be the Co-op.

Marc 0:55:04 Oh yeah, I think it's the Co-op.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:08 It could be the Co-op.

Marc 0:55:09 But she has— I'm sure Nisi would have said where the photo was taken, no? No. Okay, well, that was, uh, page 1 error, wasn't it, Macy? Well, the 7th expires, so it's well spotted though.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:27 Hi, Nat. Picture this, a nice sunny evening, and after finishing the bedtime routine for a 5-year-old and 11-week-old, I thought I'd treat myself to a nice ice cream. Well deserved, some might say. Absolutely. In the trolley this week was a box of Feasts. Yummy, one of my favourites, but imagine my absolute horror to find they no longer resemble the ice cream we know and love. First, your nice layer of chocolate with almond bits, nothing new here, as expected, but hiding underneath, an abomination of vanilla ice cream instead of original chocolate.

Marc 0:56:07 Hey! How can that be a feast?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:09 That would then usually be followed by a nice solid chocolate centre.

Marc 0:56:13 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:13 Oh no, not anymore. The middle is now a softer hazelnut chocolate. Ugh. No longer a feast, just an imposter hiding in the wrapper. Might as well give it a new name. Let's just say evening ruined as soon as I finished eating it. I thought only Mark will appreciate my disappointment.

Marc 0:56:33 I do understand that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:35 Anyway, I've not messaged in before and I'm currently 11 weeks behind on the pod since the arrival of my new little boy, but I'll get a nice surprise when I've caught up if you read out my message. Love the pod, please keep doing what you're doing. From Hayley. Congratulations on your son. You definitely deserved a little rest and a nice ice cream that you were really looking forward to. Why do they change things, especially without flagging it up? It's a piss take.

Marc 0:57:02 It's weird as well because you say Feast. I've not had a Feast since I was about 10. Yeah. But I remember— don't, please don't do that again. Natalie.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:11 Feasts.

Marc 0:57:12 It's really repulsive.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:13 Fabs.

Marc 0:57:14 Fabs are right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:15 No.

Marc 0:57:16 Well, Fabs used to be— Fab was like quite a, you know, that was, that was sort of after school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:22 Have you seen my latest post about Fab ice cream?

Marc 0:57:25 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:26 I'm not going to talk about fabs anymore.

Marc 0:57:28 All right, why is that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:30 Because I've done a chat about fabs.

Marc 0:57:32 Oh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:32 I'm not going into it now.

Marc 0:57:33 All right, okay. When'd you do that then?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:36 With Kate Butch, my drag friend.

Marc 0:57:39 Oh, right. Someone mentioned the ice pop, you know, the, um, the long ones.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:45 Mr. Freezes.

Marc 0:57:47 The long things that were like that. Mr. Freeze. Your dad would have had them in his newsagent, millions of them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:51 Mr. Freeze.

Marc 0:57:51 And he used to have to like do that and you Ben, do that a bit. I mean, you'd like squeeze it, it would like the end would like pop out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:03 Yeah.

Marc 0:58:04 You know what I mean? Those little—

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:07 A Mr. Freeze.

Marc 0:58:08 They used to do long ones.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:10 Yeah.

Marc 0:58:10 But they, they were 30p, 20p, I think.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:13 Not now, not anymore.

Marc 0:58:14 20p. And then they used to do medium length size.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:16 When you eat a Calippo, how do you eat it? Do you like a Calippo?

Marc 0:58:21 I do like a Calippo, yeah. It's a classic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:23 Because you have to peel it.

Marc 0:58:24 Yep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:25 And then what I do is I, I, you try and do something with it. That's right.

Marc 0:58:31 I roll it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:32 Doesn't come out. You roll it.

Marc 0:58:33 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:33 I go straight in because I'm impatient, as you know. Bite the end, push it up with my teeth.

Marc 0:58:45 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:45 That's what I do.

Marc 0:58:46 How does that work? Push it out with your teeth?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:49 From the end.

Marc 0:58:51 Oh, with the bottom?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:53 Yeah.

Marc 0:58:53 The bottom, you push it up?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:54 Yes.

Marc 0:58:55 How'd you do that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:56 With your teeth. Just gives it that.

Marc 0:58:58 Oh yeah, I do like a Clippo. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:02 That surprises me.

Marc 0:59:03 Yeah, they were right, those.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:05 Because it's not— I'll tell you what we've got in the fridge that's nice. A Berry Solero. Yes please.

Marc 0:59:10 All right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:11 Do you know I like currants? Blackcurrant, raspberries, blueberry. You know what I mean? I like a, I like a fruit. I like a summer fruit, a berry. What's funny?

Marc 0:59:24 Speaking of puns.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:26 Puns of what?

Marc 0:59:27 I like to stay current. Current kind of girl.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:30 Very, very good.

Marc 0:59:31 Yeah. Just make myself laugh without having to say anything. You've made, you've made me say it now. Either Eliza just walked past or we've got a very, very large mouse in the house.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:39 Or my dad, the ghost of him just wandering about. He used to stand in doorways a lot and aggravate.

Marc 0:59:44 Possibly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:44 Just saw Robbie Williams on Instagram and instantly thought of Mark. Sorry, it's Gem from Milton Keynes, by the way. Have a look at this photo of Robbie Williams's outfit.

Marc 0:59:56 Let's have a look.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:58 For everybody, um, listening, Robbie Williams has got sort of a 2-piece silk— what I can only describe as a pyjama set, but it's covered in Different types of tropical ice creams.

Marc 1:00:11 How funny.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:13 I'll have to see where that's from. You could have a little shirt like that.

Marc 1:00:17 No, I'm all right, thank you. It's hideous. Yeah, it's all right. But yeah, interesting. It's like the side of an ice cream van.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:24 Yes, exactly that's how I'd describe it. Hi Nat, I'm in Menorca at the moment and I thought I'd send you and Mark a pic of all the different flavour Maxibons they sell over here. I think Mark would be in his element. Absolutely love your podcast and have listened since day one. You and your lovely family keep me entertained on my morning runs and evening walks. Keep doing what you're doing. Love, Kirsty from Dorset. Thank you, Kirsty. We all really, really appreciate it. Sometimes you get the odd message and it really, really means something. Have a listen to this.

Speaker R 1:00:54 Hey, Nat, um, Amy from Bulldog here. One of my voice notes has been played on the pod before, which I was so excited for, about the time when Mark took them out away from his mouse family. But just wanted to say thank you really, because I'm a single mum.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:14 I've always had a bit of an interest in possibly becoming a paramedic, but obviously to retrain when you're a single mum and do shift work— my daughter's only 2— is a bit, is a lot basically. I was watching your Care documentary and I saw the section you did about St John's Ambulance, and I never knew that they were mainly a volunteer-based organisation. So when I say I paused your documentary, went on their website, applied to be a volunteer emergency responder for Hertfordshire, straight away got an interview, and then I found out on Monday that I've got the role.

Speaker R 1:01:55 So I'm just waiting for my start date for my training, but obviously once I've trained up, I'll be volunteering at local events and, and we'll be trained with life-saving skills. So just wanted to say thank you, really. One, for the pod, because I absolutely love it. I've been a listener since day one. And 2, just for the documentary and the fact I found out about St John's Ambulance, and now I've got a volunteer role with them. Um, but yeah, Amy from Bulldog, and love you all. Bye!

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:28 Isn't that lovely?

Marc 1:02:30 That is absolutely brilliant. It's brilliant that Amy has done that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:35 And look what she said.

Speaker R 1:02:37 Oh, and also to add on to that, I actually, when they said in my interview, why do you want to, um, join St John's, I actually mentioned your documentary. And one of the ladies that was interviewing me also listens to the pod, so we had that in common.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:55 And we started to—

Speaker R 1:02:56 I was like, oh my God, the pod's so good, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:58 And so yeah, that was, uh, you were actually brought up in my interview as well.

Speaker R 1:03:03 But yeah, thank you again.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:06 Isn't that fantastic?

Marc 1:03:07 Well done, Amy. Brilliant. What a great thing to volunteer for.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:11 I never ever knew that St. John's Ambulance was charitable either, or volunteers. Didn't know that. Why are you looking at me funny?

Marc 1:03:19 I'm not looking at you funny.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:20 Amy didn't know it.

Marc 1:03:21 No.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:22 Loads of people didn't.

Marc 1:03:23 No.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:24 When you're out at a concert or the marathon, you see them all.

Marc 1:03:26 Yeah, yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:26 I just think, oh, it's the ambulance people. Incredible what they do. Amazing.

Marc 1:03:32 About the RNLI.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:33 Oh, they're brilliant volunteers. Listen, if you wanna talk, if you wanna talk about the RNLI, you know who you need to talk to, don't you? Oh, Joe Wilkinson. You're joking.

Marc 1:03:45 Oh, I've listened to the episode where—

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:46 No, he's completely obsessed with them.

Marc 1:03:48 There's, there's a staff one, isn't there, on the Thames?

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:50 He's obsessed.

Marc 1:03:51 Yeah. Oh, well, I mean, me and Joe Wilkinson have got a lot in common.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:55 You have actually.

Marc 1:03:56 So that doesn't surprise me. And David.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:59 Yeah, and David.

Marc 1:04:00 When are you going to come on ChatterBix, by the way? We mentioned this before. No, this is ridiculous. Why are you not on it?

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:06 I don't know. Maybe I should just message them and say, boys, what's— where's them? Yeah, what's happening? Yeah, we need to catch up. Yeah, I don't know if they've gone a different way or—

Marc 1:04:17 Maybe it's gone a different way.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:18 Well, it is what it is, isn't it?

Marc 1:04:19 But I don't think they've— I mean, to be fair, they went over— they go several different ways anyway. Yeah, with the sort of subject matter. Maybe they just think, oh, She's busy.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:28 I won't bother her because she's doing her own thing. Oh, you've been on Chatterbox. No, no, I loved it. It was my favourite.

Marc 1:04:32 Remember the Christmas special?

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:33 It's a night, it's a night. Yeah, I mean, they've even got, they've even got the theme tune. I know, I'll play it. I'll send them a message.

Marc 1:04:41 I mean, that actually made me want to send a message. I will, I'll do it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:44 I will. Yeah. Anyway, there we go. What a lovely pod. I felt like that was a really lovely catch-up with everybody. Loads of voice notes. Thank you so, so much. They really do make the pods. Please don't ever forget that. Never feel silly. Never think, oh, I've sent one last week, I won't do it again. Just keep sending them in. Keep sending in your thoughts, theories, stories, what you think about what we're talking about. It really means the world.

Marc 1:05:08 And you do try and, like, play 'em all out, don't you?

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:10 I try my best. I mean—

Marc 1:05:11 But naturally, it's impossible. It is. You get a lot of messages.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:14 Yeah. But I, you know, I choose a few.

Marc 1:05:16 You certainly get through a lot.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:19 Yeah, I think I do quite well.

Marc 1:05:21 To be fair. Agreed. There's some, but no, it's great, isn't it? It is. It's nice to hear from everybody.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:25 I also wanna say thank you to anybody and everybody who has joined Patreon. It's going great guns over there. Tomorrow, Friday, there is a very niche special going out, which actually, these episodes are the reason why I wanted to do a Patreon. Again, going back to ChatterBix. I'm so getting to the edge of my seat now. Well, getting back to ChatterBix, what I love is that you can do anything you want on there.

Marc 1:05:50 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:51 Because it's such a small audience of people.

Marc 1:05:53 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:53 That really love you because they're paying money to listen to you and getting the old bonuses. You can really do what you want. And the other night, Tony and I had had a couple of drinks and we did 25 minutes on portaloos and where we've had unusual poos. It's not for the faint-hearted. It's It's, it's one to not listen to when you're eating. It is absolutely hilarious.

Marc 1:06:23 So you say.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:24 Tony is hilarious. If you— I, I was so shocked, the stories he told me. And I even said, are you sure you're happy with this? And he said, yeah, no, of course, because it's for Patreon. Hilarious. You could never ever put it out on here, ever. So that's, that's what I mean. You can put out really—

Marc 1:06:41 And you contributed to this as well.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:44 A little bit. Oh, um, yeah, a little bit. Not loads, but it's very, very funny. And again, you can concentrate on people.

Marc 1:06:54 Aren't you trying to get people to just sign up? It's because I'm not sure.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:58 It's great, it's great. And you and I need to do one. You're going to do a steam engine special for me, aren't you?

Marc 1:07:03 No, I'm not.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:04 Why are you not going to do 20 minutes? Oh, okay, I'll do a little 20-minute steam engine special.

Marc 1:07:09 You've got to be on it. No, I can't do it on my own. No one wants to hear that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:13 Well, I can be here, but maybe you and Tim, you could phone someone. We need to get Francis Bourgeois on, really.

Marc 1:07:17 We do, yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:19 But that's really a main act. He could sit there, couldn't he?

Marc 1:07:21 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:22 He's proper, you know, he's just, um, signed up for the old, um, the old, um, what's it called?

Marc 1:07:29 Top Gear?

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:30 No, the other one.

Marc 1:07:31 Okay, anyone help me?

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:36 Prime. What's it called? Grand—

Marc 1:07:39 Grand Tour.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:40 He's on there now?

Marc 1:07:41 Right. Did I not tell you that?

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:43 No, I thought you said he was on Top Gear.

Marc 1:07:45 I think I probably did, and I think I probably meant the Grand Tour.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:49 Anyway, don't forget, please, if you fancy some bonus stuff, sign up to Patreon. Book club is also back next week on Patreon, and that's me and RoRo talking about Cathy Burke's book. Next week on this pod, there's a lovely birthday special all about RoRo turning 40. We've also got a really lovely episode with a guest listener. which is fantastic.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:09 Really enjoying doing a few different ones at the moment as well, you know. And because it's holidays, and as everybody knows, we're all away, our family are away, we're really, really busy. I will never ever fail to get one out to you. They may be a little bit different. Let me know what you think.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:25 But it's sometimes nice. A change is as good as a rest, I say. And at least we're not off.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:32 Don't forget that tickets are on sale for our live shows at the end of the year. If you go to lifewithnatpod.com You will find everything there. That's lifewithnatpod.komi, K-O-M-I dot I-O, and you'll find everything there. And there we go. That was lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:50 Thank you so much, darling.

Marc 1:08:51 My absolute pleasure, darling. Ah, what a lovely evening having a chat with you.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:56 It certainly was.