EP268: Nat’s Nieces #61 – getting the pumpkins out

Speaker H 0:02:54 I must just say that I also thought that, uh, Pat from EastEnders, Pam St. Clements, was dead, and I was like, what the flip? Yeah, hilarious. And I think Chico's understandable because that was a thing, wasn't it? But, uh, yeah, that's so funny. I also thought she was dead, so there you go, you're not on your own.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:17 The Mandela effect is a psychological phenomenon Easy for you to say. Did I say it right?

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:24 Phenomenon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:25 Phenomenal.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:25 Banana.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:28 Something like a banana. Where a large group of people collective— oh wow, I'm doing a Natalie. A large group of people collectively share a false memory about a specific event, detail, or fact. So the origin of the term, coined in 2009, I'm assuming—

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:48 To do with Nelson Mandela dying in prison. I was assuming it was about Nelson Mandela and not Pat Butcher. No, nor Chico.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:59 However, just some more facts. Pam— Pamela Ann Clements, born 11th of May, 1942.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:07 Oh, Taurian like me, old Pam.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:09 I know. Present. She's— everyone, she's still— well, she is still well. What does this mean though on Wikipedia? Years active, 1972 to present.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:19 I would say he's working. Oh, fine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:21 Thank you. I was like— But the amount of people—

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:26 Oh, we had some crackers. We really did. Very funny.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:30 Well, I can see why people would make that assumption. Yeah. But why? No, but why? Just— it's just, I find that incredible that so many people have had the same thought. Did she die in EastEnders? Yes. Yeah, that's why. And I do think—

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:44 She came back as a ghost. A ghost.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:46 So I think that's what's thrown me. Yes. She did come back as a— well, I had to, as I said to you the other day, I had to Google if Ricky Tomlinson was still alive. Yeah. Just 'cause I was like, what? I'm really into watching, I've watched it before, but I'm obsessed with going to bed watching Royal Family. Not Friends anymore, you'll be pleased to know. You've ditched it. And I thought, I wonder, I was like, surely I haven't missed his death. 'Cause that's heartbreaking. But he's still alive. 87 Saturday, actually. I'll let you know. Saturday the 26th.

Speaker J 0:05:15 That's all we're gonna do now is Google if people are still alive.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:18 Fantastic. Amanda said, RoRo, I also thought Pam and George had died. Why is that? So there you go, Amanda. Now you know. I did die. No, but she means— Well, but the Matrix is where it's— Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:30 And other people did think that it was like AI-generated imagery.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:34 Talking of AI-generated imagery, Julie sent us a picture from Malta of a very, very large boat with RoRo on the side. Oh, wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:43 So good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:44 And it isn't AI-generated.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:45 I was gonna say, what's that got to do with AI?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:46 No, just trying to go into a little smooth link that didn't really work.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:50 Well, speaking of AI, I posted a photo on holiday and it said AI content.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:57 Oh, have you put a filter on it or something?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:59 Nope, hadn't touched it. And then I've, I've then post— done a post. So that was a story, and then I did a post yesterday with like 18 photos. This says AI content. I haven't done anything AI.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:10 Well, that's really annoying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:11 Unless I've— it's because I've added a song, but I've never seen that before. No, no pictures have been AI, like they're just from my camera roll. I haven't touched it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:20 Els went to Blackpool. Yes. All the pictures, everything she's done, she's pretended.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:26 But I'm fuming 'cause people probably look at that and think that's AI. I haven't done anything. I've not, that's annoying. It's not even like the caption, it just says where we went.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:33 Maybe, isn't that weird when you think about it? Maybe it looks so beautiful, the sea or whatever, they think it's AI.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:40 Yeah, you can't just do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:41 That they think it's AI, or if it's generated, you don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:44 I dunno. I dunno what's happened.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:45 Maybe we should, AI it. Find out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:48 Oh yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:49 I'm not gonna talk too much about this 'cause I actually don't know the facts 'cause I'm trying to listen to the pod, but I've listened to it in bed. Obviously I fall asleep. Mm-hmm. But there's a certain podcast that I listen to and it's got all these AI men on it. They're not, they're real people, but they're all the people that do all the AI job stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:08 Right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:09 And like some people say it's gonna end the world.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:12 No, it's been a big thing in the news last week. Really huge. And the King had everybody up to Scotland to talk about it. Oh, good. I'm glad someone, someone gives a shit. The problem with the King having all of these sort of head of AI, if you like, up there, there was apparently no one from China, no one from America. So it was a bit pointless, apparently.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:32 These guys are Ameri— well, no, these guys I think are— there is everyone who's in the world. Well, my friend saw a thing about one— But seriously, 10 years, it could— we could be finished. What do you mean finished?

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:43 There was a guy on the radio who works in technology, and it was on LBC, of course, and he works in it. And the way he described it was, there was something that happened recently where the AI bots began to talk to each other, and they did something on their own, within their own power, that the people who were running it—

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:07 Didn't know how to stop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:09 Wow. So what he said was, if that were to continue—

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:13 They'll be ganging up on us.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:14 Then what that would happen, it's, it's, Tony said it the other night, and funnily enough, we put a call out for an AI episode, and me and Tony's next episode is all gonna be about AI. So we're gonna go deep into it. But it is like the Terminator. Now, I've not seen the Terminator film. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Sure. Which again, I don't watch, but it is exactly that. And Tony thinks it's really relevant. He said we should actually watch that film now. But this guy was saying, imagine if all of the government people who are in charge said, this is too much, we need to blow up all the system. They would then be ahead of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To stop them using the technology to blow up the system.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:49 'Cause it's, what do they call it? It's, oh, so long.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:52 Sorry, I'm terrible.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:53 But it's like now they're getting AI to train AI. It's like a super, it's insane. And also AI, it's got no, caring. There's no emotion.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:03 No emotion.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:03 So it's, yeah, I mean, that's scary.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:08 It is quite scary.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:09 Can that actually happen? I feel, I'm not sure.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:13 In terms of, I think what people worry about, it should be higher on the list than it is. But what do you do? I listen to these things, you worry, what can you do? You can't really do anything apart from not use it. But that's, it's gone too far now, really.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:29 No, and it's not when you say use it, I think actually using something like ChatGPT or Gemini, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal when you— with what you're talking about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:39 No, absolutely, I agree.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:41 Because why couldn't it just stop somewhere?

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:42 Well, it doesn't, does it? Well, that's the point.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:44 Well, there's too many powerful people earning too much money out of it, and that's the problem. But the King actually held a big thing to say, we need to use this to—

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:53 Anyway, save this with Tony because this is boring.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:55 Oh, fair enough.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:56 Oh no, it was interesting though. This guy said though, if someone paid you a billion pounds But you could press like one of these 9 buttons and it would just blow up all your fat, like all everyone, would you do it? Like basically that's what they're doing. Mm-hmm. Just for money, they are risking potentially the lives of—

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:13 Well, it's no different to social media. And what people are saying is what social media have done to teenagers of today—

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:18 Is what?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:18 AI. Yeah. Is about a billion times worse because people now have AI bots as friends, girlfriends. Mm-hmm. They're only talking to their AI bot. It's crazy stuff. And they're still letting that happen.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:29 Well, yeah. So, there you go. But they've let social media happen for a very long time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:33 So, it is very deep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:35 Oh, we're doomed. Well, my friend was buzzing. She said, I found this singer on Instagram, he's amazing. She was like, I love him. And then where she's been liking his videos, someone's then messaged her to say, just to let you know, this isn't a real person, it's AI.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:48 Isn't that crazy? But why?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:50 What's he doing? What does she love? Just his singing, loves his music. I mean, she showed me, I've got the video, I'll show you. If she hadn't have said he's AI, I would absolutely have said he was a real person.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:00 And there you go. It's gonna do people out of so much. It's crazy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:04 But yeah, it did make me laugh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:05 But there's even men. Sorry, we will stop talking about this. Or not just men, but what I've read is there's men.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:12 Thanks for letting me know I've got all sugar around my chops from that croffin. How was it? Loads of it. How was the—

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:17 Everywhere. No, I couldn't see it. I promise.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:19 Only a little, but I had a little bite.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:21 Any good?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:22 Making AI women on like OnlyFans. So even women are gonna lose, we're losing those jobs because there's guys just making AI women. Mm-hmm. It's mad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:32 Yeah. I mean, it, it's terrible. Talking of the news, I mean, we've been very intellectual today, aren't we? Can we just talk about my pal Danny Dyer?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:40 Oh, that's a cracker. Oh, I've not seen it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:43 Okay. I'm going to show you it.

Speaker K 0:11:45 Sorry guys.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:46 Just talk me through your message for the Prime Minister about What do you think?

Speaker L 0:11:49 I don't know who the Prime Minister is, mate. Do you? Andy Burnham. Yeah, no, but who is he? I don't understand. Anyone vote for him? Because I didn't vote for him. So I think we've had successive, um, successive Prime Ministers that are cunts. And I've put that on the fucking BBC. Cheers, man.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:05 No, he went in. So, so who was interviewing him?

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:10 I'm not too sure. So anyway, yeah, this happened and, uh, Listen, he has his faults, our Danny, whatever. He can say what he likes. Good luck to him, whatever. But then what I've found very funny is that our PM, Andy Burnham, has been asked, what do you think of Danny Dyer's comments? And he said, I'm not really sure who that is. Is it a West Ham's father-in-law? West Ham's player's father-in-law? No. Good banter. A little bit of banter going on. Yeah, I like that. Which I did quite like.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:44 Right, so he's obviously, he knows who he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good. Very clever.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:48 Nice. But I did find that quite funny, and I wonder if the feud will continue.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:51 Oh, how funny. I was watching his caravan thing last night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:55 Oh, was you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:56 I won't talk about rivals again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:59 No, don't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:00 He's always outspoken about politics of dire, isn't he?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:06 Yeah. I like him. I love him. That was great. That was a great guy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:10 Say what you wanna say.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:11 Talking of feuds, the Oasis documentary. Oh. Everywhere I look, it's only got about 3 stars, but I think if you are—

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:20 A fan.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:22 A true fan, I urge people to go and see it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:25 I'll wait. Mark couldn't quite— I'll wait for it to come on the telly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:28 Mark couldn't quite believe me. I was sobbing. He's like, what are you doing? I was sobbing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:34 Gosh, she's embarrassing. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:35 I couldn't, I couldn't stop. You know when the lights come up, I've— What do you think?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:39 What's the difference to the Netflix one?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:42 Well, do you know what? I haven't seen the Netflix one, which is terrible.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:45 I knew she was gonna say that. I haven't. And I knew it. She's gone to the cinema. Yeah, just like number one fan. I've not even seen this thing advertised though. That's what I don't really get. It's, it's like you only know if you're like a real fan.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:57 No, it's, it's, I can't explain it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:00 She only knows 'cause Jamie Balfour wrote in and was like, it's unreal, you need to go and see it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:04 Oh, I saw everyone going to the premiere of it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:06 No, you didn't get invited.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:07 No, which I found really upsetting. We were talking about FOMO last week. Oh, there we go. That is the first time thing that I've seen with all these assholes in the front of Oasis Brit. And I thought, what is going on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:19 You could have booked your top 3. Why are they there?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:22 They don't like them. It really did wind me up, actually.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:25 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:26 It wound me up that I didn't get invited.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:27 You've been proper mugged off there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:29 Yeah. But no, it was really good. And it's, you know, it's quite emotional. So what is it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:34 What is the premise? All the cousins meeting.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:35 It's just the beginning, when they're rehearsing for the big tour last year. Oh, it's a really sad one. And they're all in the room. And it's just Brit, and they're waiting for Liam to turn up, and he comes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:45 Oh, nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:46 And you see their relationship as brothers grow. And then their kids don't know each other, and they meet, and they all get on. It's just quite emotional.

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:54 So they are actually friends now? Yeah. Well, that's lovely. Yeah. Very nice. I'm sure all the hundreds of thousands have helped. And millions.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:03 Millions, yeah. But no, it's good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:05 Well, you should watch the Netflix one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:07 I'm going to. As I read that, as I flicked through my book, uh, the other night after watching it, I thought, I still haven't watched the Netflix one. So it's on my list to do very soon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:18 Nice. Very nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:19 That was very good. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:20 Well done. You went to the cinema. I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:22 Little date night. Late date day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:24 Oh, date day. Gross. You're such a dick. That's an ick.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:27 That's a fucking ick. Oh, do you know what?

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:29 I thought of an ick the other day. Oh my God. Oh, why didn't I write that? Mummy and Daddy date night. Mum, mum and dad, mum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:38 Who says mum? People say mum and dad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:42 American? No, not Americans.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:43 No, they don't. Yeah. But from here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:45 I've seen it a couple of times.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:46 That's crazy stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:48 Mum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:49 What was the ick the other day? Went to the Sherlock Holmes Museum.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:52 Yeah, you're a geek. Oh no, I didn't.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:54 Sorry, we were gonna do that. No, we went to the Charles Dickens Museum. And then we went to— Sounds fucking boring. No, it wasn't. It was actually riveting to go in and you thought, he sat here at this desk and wrote Oliver Twist. My mind was blown. My mind was blown. All the kitchens, that was absolutely fantastic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:12 I thought you didn't like seeing those sorts of things.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:15 What do you mean?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:15 Oh, you're not interested in going to, I don't know, America and seeing shit. So why are you interested in that? That's different. Why?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:23 Because it's up the road in Bloomsbury. Get the tube there, cracking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:26 Yeah, so it's only because you can't be bothered to travel.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:28 Oh, it was great. Really good. Went into the British Library. Oh. Saw the Magna Carta. We went to see—

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:35 we went to go for lunch. Where, sorry, where is the British Library?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:38 Right next to King's Cross Station. Yeah, we went there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:40 This was a good one. And he said, Amelia really wants to go to the big library in London. I said, okay, lovely, we'll all go. We get there, there's no fucking kids' books. They have no children's books.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:53 I did not know that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:54 Yeah. Wow. We were like, perfect.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:57 You also need to go and sign in and you need ID. to get a reading thing so you can actually go into the libraries and read, which I didn't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:05 I mean, it all sounds very complicated.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:07 But it, yeah, we, I think when you walk around London, you forget how lucky we are, the things we've got to do, to see.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:14 I think it's actually great that we still have libraries.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:16 So do I.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:18 It's nice really. Like everywhere you go, there is a library in the town. Well, thank fucking God. Well, around here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:23 Thank God.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:24 It's good really, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:26 It won't be long.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:27 What do you mean, thank God? When, when do you visit the local library?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:31 I used to with the children often. I used to do all the reading challenges in the 6-week holidays. Go up there, you collect your stamps when you've read your book. Libraries are great. When you've got smaller children, libraries are excellent.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:41 Yeah, I used to take them, like you went to the—

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:44 Rhyme Time. Yeah, that's great. But even sometimes just going in there now, like just for James to smash all the books up, pull every book up off the shelf.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:52 And he's not doing it at all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:53 Smash them all up. Not read one single book, even though he loves a book.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:57 Your hair, can you just tuck that in?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:59 Oh, wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:00 Ah, I didn't see it from this angle. Thank you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:02 You lot are fucking getting right on my nerves. No, because he does love a book, so it's nice to just go in there if we're in Ware and we just pop in there for 20 minutes, although every time I wanna go, it's closed. Is it nice in there? Yeah, it's cute. It's a new one, isn't it? It's lovely. It's a new one. It's a new one. But I haven't got a card and all that shit because I know I'd forget to bring them back. I'd lose and break. It's just not worth it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:23 Fair enough. It's very good for the summer challenges for your children's age group.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:27 Yeah, that is good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:29 Go in there and you walk up there and then you, you get a little lollipop at the end and it's a little challenge and you do the stamps. Just keeps them a little bit—

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:35 I don't agree with lollipops.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:35 A little bit involved. Pardon?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:37 I don't agree with lollipops.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:38 Well, I don't really particularly like them, but why don't you agree with them? Because of the choking hazard?

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:43 They're awful. James is never having a, a lollipop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:45 I understand, I do. But if they were that bad, they wouldn't do them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:18:49 They are that bad. They shouldn't. What do you mean? That's, What a stupid thing to say. What do you mean? Surely some of the food we eat, there's sugar that's in it. Oh, we shouldn't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:00 I know, but you don't go, oh, you know, he died, that's because he ate— yeah, too many.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:06 But if you look, if you actually saw paediatricians and stuff, all that jazz, they would say do not— How many children die?

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:12 Let me know now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:12 No, well, come on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:14 I think what I'm saying, there's got to be a threshold, isn't there? It's like, it's like we're talking about roads. There's gotta be an X amount deceased before you can put a hump in the road, or—

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:24 Yes. And also, I thought you were gonna start talking about roundabouts then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:29 It's just really, it's really bad. No, I agree.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:32 No, it is bad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:33 But yeah, but that's like saying we can't have grapes anymore.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:35 But you can cut them in half.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:38 True. And then sausages.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:42 Yeah, they can be cut. They can be cut. The thing is, that's the thing. You can't cut it. And it is, it is literally like the same size. that could just completely block?

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:51 Well, I've been very fortunate 'cause my kids don't eat sweets, so I've never had the issue.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:55 But usually kids have, you know, the round ones that are flat.

Natalie Cassidy 0:19:58 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:00 Yeah. What's happened to them?

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:01 They're still knocking about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:02 Well, they're—

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:03 Like in those sort of clear things. Yeah. Chupa, Chupa, Chupa, Chupa Chups. No, they're bad. They're bad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:07 Yeah, they're bad. They're dangerous.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:08 But like if it was like a little drumstick or something, or, you know, the long whistle ones, they could go right down, couldn't they? So what's the facts? There are no statistics. There we go. Well, thank you. Well, it doesn't matter. My— I will not be letting him have a lollipop.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:21 No, I will. I will when he's older.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:23 I won't. I've got friends that they've never— I've got friends. That don't allow their kids to have lollipops. Really? But it is mad, 'cause you know, like you go to a restaurant, they're like, have a lollipop. It's a bit like, 'cause then you've gotta say no, they can't. And then they've got the hump and then it's hard really. Just change it to something else.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:39 You're gonna be like on the WhatsApp group, like the WhatsApp chap about the Oreos that's online.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:45 What, don't send your kids in with lollipops?

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:48 Yeah, that's great that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:49 What was it? The Pat—

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:50 It's been very good. Very, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:52 Well, yeah, I just think, yes, just no need for it, is there?

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:55 No, fair enough. What made us get onto that? Yeah, I'm not sure. That's why I love this pod. Low breeze. Low breeze. Because you said you get a lollipop from the— Oh, yes. From the reading material. That's right. Or a badge or something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:47 So that was your exciting day date.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:50 Yeah, it was really fun. Really enjoyable, actually. I haven't done anything.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:53 Just 2 kids' parties this weekend.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:55 All good?

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:56 Yeah. James loved the bouncy castle. He's learnt to jump, so he's absolutely buzzing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:00 He just jumped off the stair. I couldn't believe it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:01 Yeah, he's really into jumping now, so that's good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:04 That's good. Really good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:04 I'm hoping that the weather will still be nice around his birthday, 'cause I might get a little bouncy castle for the garden.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:09 Aw. Yeah. He's looking lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:11 He's maintained. I mean, it's unbelievable. The weather's like the day before his birthday, it's like 20 degrees.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:15 Yeah. It's unbelievable, this weather, but it can fuck off. It's mad. I imagine it's like this.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:23 It's really bad. This is the most confusing my life. I have to say. The clothing. I was in shorts yesterday. The clothing. I don't, I'm getting changed. I'm gonna get waxed. I'm getting changed like twice a day, like a child.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:32 I, when I say I've been bitten on my leg. Yeah. I mean, it's not normal. I don't know what it is. It's weeping. Ugh. I, I am fed up. I don't— I'm in bed, got into bed last night, mosquitoes in my room.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:46 Yeah, the flies are still about as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:48 Loads of flies.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:49 And, and now we're getting all the spiders as well. The spiders.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:53 I saw one this morning, it was huge.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:54 I've got— I woke up this morning, there's about 15 spiders in my kitchen. They are everywhere. And like the really big skinny leg ones. That's what she was saying earlier. Rank everywhere.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:04 Picked up a cushion and it was like that with the legs out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:07 But what's that? Like, just the harvest. Just the time of year, the fields.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:11 The fields have been harvested. They are everywhere.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:13 The cobwebs. Oh my God. I picked up some conkers. Apparently sticking them on the window ledge keeps them away. Oh yeah. So I've put some. Yeah, I need to do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:22 There'll be some, won't there? Somewhere around here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:25 I assume so.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:28 It's weird though, isn't it? September.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:32 It's October next week. I was gonna say though, September we do have nice weather, right? No, we do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:36 Yeah, it's true. But this feels particularly—

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:39 it is particularly warm.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:41 It wasn't this warm last year, I'm sure it was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:43 I think it was more wet, maybe. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:45 Which I can do without.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:47 But yeah, it's just not very seasonal, is it? And I'm sure, is it in your line of work? I would imagine it's a struggle.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:54 Yep. Well, people aren't buying winter stuff. Yeah, no one's really— what you buy? Have you bought much?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:00 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:02 What are you buying? Don't wanna buy, it's too hot to buy knitwear. I put a jumper on the other day, walked outside, I thought, where am I going? Took that off. I could do with some long sleeve t-shirts. Yes. Jersey, that's what people are buying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:12 Are they?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:13 Jersey, very lightweight jackets. Lightweight, yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:18 That's it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:19 And I even feel sorry for some of the shops with all the kind of pumpkin stuff. And I know it's not quite yet. What are you saying? But no, I'm saying, no, but they all, I'm just saying they have these seasons and they get everything ready. Maybe they've gotta change it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:31 Well, it's not only people, they're probably getting it earlier. Getting ready.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:34 Hold on, buying what? What are we talking about?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:36 Pumpkins for Halloween.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:37 What, actual pumpkins?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:38 Oh, I'm talking about bits. All the decor.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:40 Yeah. Halloween ain't moving, babe.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:43 I know, but I'm not— I'm doing Christmas.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:44 I've got my pumpkins out on the old—

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:45 I bet you did.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:49 Oh my God. Trick or treat. Oh no, can we change the subject or not? Are we still— So childish. Losers. What, you've got pumpkins out on the doorstep? Those really tickled me. No, on the mantelpiece. My felt ones. Stacey Solomon, Georgia Asda. Got 'em now. Have you seen Stacey Solomon's moved house? No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:13 To a farm. A farm? She's showing all the, she's showing all the rooms.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:17 Yeah. Have you seen the— no, it's not a farm. It's like a manor house. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:22 No, a manor house. But she's doing a farm, isn't she? She's gonna do a farm. Yeah, she's just got lots of land.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:26 But it looks fucking huge.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:28 She was like, this is the bathroom. I know. The bathroom as big as my lounge.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:32 It reminded me of Scarface, the bathroom. You know, she's got the round— Yeah. I mean, unreal. She's got quite a lot of kids though. She probably did need a bit more space, to be fair to her.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:43 Well, absolutely. Yeah. And she likes doing things, doesn't she? She does all her DIY. I'm looking forward to seeing what she does.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:46 Did you see her fireplace?

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:48 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:49 Yeah. She was like, oh, you just want to, just to put into perspective how big it is. And then she like stood next to it. Oh yeah. She's massive. Like double the height of her. Gosh, she'll make that look lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:58 Lovely for Christmas, won't she? Yeah. Good luck to her is what I say. Her and Joe.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:01 Oh, what was I gonna say? What did you say about pumpkin? Oh, did you see that? That, I don't really know who she is. She does a podcast with someone, but she was talking about breastfeeding in public.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:11 How funny is that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:13 We are one mind. Why? Because I mentioned it earlier. Who is she? Who is she? No, she.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:20 So I get confused. They both look very alike. This is—

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:23 I don't know who they are.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:24 One was on Love Island, I wanna say.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:26 Right. Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:27 She's very controversial.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:29 She's quite aggressive in her approach. Because people have gone in on her. Yeah. But even just like—

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:33 She has done a bit of an apology, I think, on the breastfeeding point.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:36 Someone has even like, a guy put something up about his wife breastfeeding, an actor or something. Everyone's really— Oh, really? Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:44 Wow. I mean, I feel, I just think it's such a, these, if there are certain subjects whether right, wrong, or indifferent, that I don't think you should talk about because they have such strong opinions. Breastfeeding, not breastfeeding.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:01 But everyone should be allowed their opinion. I know. I don't think you should be allowed your opinion. She was— breastfeeding is, is nature. It's natural. That's nature. Yeah. So that's where it's weird. No, I think— I absolutely agree. People should be entitled to their own opinion.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:13 From what I saw from her apology, she was saying that she said, She was saying just about like not covering up sometimes. If she's in a situation, there's just someone sitting there with their boob out in like a situation you wouldn't expect them to be in, it makes her feel uncomfortable. I dunno why it would make her feel uncomfortable. I don't get it. I was quite an open— Mm-hmm. Breastfeeder. Like, you know, I said to Natalie though, it's funny, I've seen on social media now the other extreme of people doing it, like walking along the shops breastfeeding. I'm like, I don't know if I would personally do that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:44 No, but also their kid needs feeding and— Is that safe though?

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:48 Would you walk and do that? I could never imagine. Probably have done it before walking and, but you know, now everyone's showing these examples of where you, you know, but—

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:56 For me, I just think, wow, if you can walk along and do it, good luck to you. 'Cause I've struggled to do it at any point of any day, sitting down, standing up. I've found it— Well, you know what it is, like now everyone's just doing it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:08 But I think imagine— There'll probably be someone, I dunno, jumping out of a plane doing it or something, you know, just to prove a point. It's, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it is what it is. I don't know, but some people do feel uncomfortable by it, don't they?

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:21 I don't know why you'd feel uncomfortable.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:22 Some people do though. Because boobs have, as I think I mentioned before, they've become sexualised. Yes. But that's not the intention of them. No. So like I said about that woman who was on, who'd had a double mastectomy and she was on Good Morning Britain with no top on, and I think at the time you were like, well, that's, or you, Oh no, it is. Yeah, that's it. No, but when I spoke about it, but yes, she's— boobs are sexualized. They're not a sexual thing. They are, they are nature. So why does it matter?

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:51 What did you think of the Sydney Sweeney thing? Have I got her name right?

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:55 Yes. Thank you. Is this the one that did the football? Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:58 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:58 What, what's the problem? Oh no, that's— see, I'm again, I'm so torn. My opinions are so divided on it. I, oh, sorry, can you just explain to make sure I've got the right thing with the football? She's got— About sport. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:13 American football, but she's naked in it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:15 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:16 And I just think it's so like 1995. It's so fucking boring.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:23 But she's not naked, she's got the ball. I mean, she's pretty much naked.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:26 She's completely naked with the ball. I've just seen one picture. For me, I just think, oh really? It's VH, you know, when we had, what was it? FHM magazine. naked women sprawled over cars. I just think, oh really? It's a bit—

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:39 Just because she's got a banging body, so she wants to show it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:42 Oh yeah, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying from an advertiser's point of view, I just think, oh, sex still sells. Yeah, yeah, I suppose so.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:50 Yeah, it's a hard one because I was again reading loads of things about it and people like, well, do you remember when it was the Diet Coke adverts and the guy?

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:58 Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:59 You know, all of that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:00 Oh yeah, yeah, it works both ways. That's what I'm saying. A lot of that was old. It's just very old school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:06 You still have some adverts. You have David Beckham. David Beckham. Or Paul Dandy on a boat with all his abs out. Yeah, yeah. You know, on the river. Yeah, yeah. On the river. Down the fucking Swan. Down by the river. You know, going—

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:18 Down by the river.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:19 But like, you know, no top on on a boat looking unbelievable.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:23 Or the perfume adverts, I suppose. Yeah. You still get lots of bodies on it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:27 I think it was just because it was very—

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:31 also, who is she? I don't know who she is.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:33 Oh, that's Tris.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:34 Okay. No, she—

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:36 but I— so Nicola McLean actually posted something about it. She was getting a lot of stick about the fact that you're sort of supporting women's football, maybe. Is that right?

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:46 But it wasn't. She just said, this is sport, or something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:49 So then everyone's taking it and they're like, well, you want to see how women actually play sport? They don't look like that. So there was loads of TikToks of women in sport saying, this is, this is what women in sport look like. But it's not— that's not what she's trying— it's not trying to be that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:05 No, it's an advertising campaign, isn't it, to get people's attention? Yeah, no, interesting. Just wondered your thoughts, because I just— for me, I went, God, is it 1992? I just found it a bit old-fashioned.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:15 Yeah, I think so. Again, like, for me, if I had— again, I have no issue with it whatsoever. Would I want my young daughter looking at that? No, I wouldn't. That's— that's fine. No, not really. I wouldn't. Probably I wouldn't want her thinking, oh, that's what I should have to do to be noticed or—

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:37 No, but it's not have to, it's a choice that she's made.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:40 Absolutely. But I'm just saying it from an influence type of thing. I, it's not something that I would—

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:45 Yeah, I think I'm probably gonna agree with you there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:48 Yeah. But at the same time, I get it. Like, to me, it doesn't bother me as a person. If you've got an amazing body, good luck to you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:54 Interesting about bodies, and I will mention this, which I think is very important. Joni has been really talking about weight, which for me is very odd.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:04 I think she's just at that age.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:05 I'm not saying she's talking about her weight. Well, she was. She was looking at her bum, and she was looking in the mirror, and she was saying, I've got a really big bum, haven't I? Oh, she's got a lovely little bum. And I said, well, don't— it just aggravates me. So I'm like, no, I don't know what you're— why are you even talking about that? And then she said, oh, lots of people at school were talking about Ariana Grande being thin. And I thought, this is wild.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:27 Yeah, but it's just people at school talking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:29 All these people at school, but you're 10.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:31 I know, but she's a singer who's very popular with that demographic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:35 Yeah, but I'm saying Jodie wouldn't talk like that. No, she wasn't at school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:39 But she's obviously hearing it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:40 She's hearing it from people at school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:41 Again, I don't ever remember at that age, I go back to Spice Girls, but I never thought, oh, Victoria's thin, or I never remember any, like, that was never a conversation.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:52 She's also said that a few people at school have said she's got a big forehead. And it's upset her. Oh no. And she's, she's sorry.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:59 Hold on. It's out of order to laugh. Bless her heart.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:04 'Cause, but she said, my forehead. 'Cause you've got a big forehead, haven't you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:06 Yeah. And I know. We all, we, I have a bit. Honestly, I haven't. You have. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:10 Fuck. But again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:12 But also it doesn't matter. It's just cute that, like.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:15 But, but again, that's, but she's now conscious about her forehead. And I think that's so mad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:19 And that's, she's just getting to that age now. I'm, I'm just saying. I'll smash people up. It's not acceptable. What are you doing? But it will happen. But, You should say, well, smash them, headbutt them with your big forehead.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:31 I should actually.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:33 She'll come on, she's broken someone's nose today.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:39 Oh, bless her. But yeah, no, I know, I just don't like it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:43 I just, I'm not saying it's acceptable, but unfortunately at that age, they, they— This is where they've got to build their resilience a bit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:49 It's hard, that naive, but that just that little Just the change. People going to school and just going to school and playing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:58 For me though as well, it's like—

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:58 Changes quickly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:59 For me also, it's where are they getting that from? Parents, your older siblings. And their friends. Because for me, it's like even with the whole, I've had it, well, not that bad, but Alfie's come back, I've said it before, oh, my hair looks like a girl.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:14 It's all this stuff, it does come, it's not just—

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:18 Well, it's from their home life, it's from older siblings. Of course, it's generally around kids. And social media.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:23 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:23 No, but we had it. You say that it's not social media. We had it at school all the time. It's just a thing, isn't it? It's just—

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:31 Yeah, kids can be horrible.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:32 Every kid goes through it. I can't imagine there's not one person in this world who's gone through school life and not been called something or a comment. Yeah, there's no way.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:42 No, even if they're—

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:43 and there's nothing wrong with anyone, but someone will always try and pick out a weakness or what is a weakness to you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:50 Always. What are you gonna do? Fuckers. What are you gonna do when Alfie gets to an age, hopefully he won't and he'll love his hair forever. But when he comes home and says, I wanna go to the barber's, Mum, I wanna be, I'm playing football and that and I wanna be, well, the good thing actually about football is they've all got quite cool hair. Yeah, exactly.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:04 That's what I say. I was going, go Maldini. I thought he was gonna be a little Maldini.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:09 But yeah, what would you do though? What if he wants to cut it all off?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:11 I'll say, no, absolutely not. Not while you're living under my roof.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:14 What if he's deeply unhappy though?

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:15 I'll say, I don't give a fuck. I'm just joking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:19 Oh, I can't imagine him in shorts.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:21 He has mentioned it before and I said no.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:22 No, he's too young. He's too young.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:25 I think we'll see if he gets older and he wants to, but—

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:27 It's hard because— Don't do it. I think if a little— if Ruby at his age said, oh, I want a bob, you would say absolutely not. I'll cut my hair how I want it until you're of an age. But with Alfie, it feels a bit— I feel like, oh, but if he wants short— but again, because I'm, I'm sort of generalising that he's a boy and most boys have short hair, albeit they really don't. No, they don't. You see loads of boys now with really long hair. But you sort of think, oh well, if he wants it, he should have it. But you wouldn't allow a 7-year-old to— No. Well, I personally don't think I would.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:00 And also I'm trying to teach him that you haven't got to be like everyone else.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:05 Of course.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:05 Or do something because other people think.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:08 That's your hair. You've got beautiful hair. There are lots of boys in his school that have long hair. And do you know what? Every time I come out of an assembly, some random mum will say to me, He's got beautiful hair, isn't he? Hair, he's got the most beautiful hair. And his close circle of friends, one of them's got curly-ish, longish hair. The others have got short hair. Ah, yeah-ish. But I just wanna teach him that you haven't got to be like everyone else.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:30 But what I'm saying is it gets to a point.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:32 When he's older, a teenager.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:34 When you, when you get to, no, not just him. I'm just saying that's, you try and instil it in your kids the whole of your life to be individual and don't be in a part of a pack and don't follow people. But As soon as they get to secondary school, it's impossible. They have to fit in. Otherwise, they're unhappy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:50 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:51 It is so sad, but that's true. Just homeschool them. Lock them up. That's what I say.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:35 Just changing the subject, I saw the best picture on Instagram earlier. Stephen Graham and Jason Statham. Please look at how beautiful both the men are. Let me see. Oh, I love them. That is like, what a cracking combo.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:49 Are they doing a show together?

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:50 No, well, they've just said long time no see or something. Oh, there it is. Yeah, it's cracking. How good does that even look? That's at a fashion show, isn't it? So I think they were with— I can't remember. This isn't the original thing I saw. How cracking does Stephen Graham look? Yeah, he's fit, man.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:06 I'll tell you what's interesting about him. He's just— he's done a McDonald's advert, hasn't he? I bet he's absolutely caked out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:11 I mean, I don't— I think maybe all the shows that he does, not really McDonald's. No, McDonald's would be— no, it was— yeah, Megabus. Um, he's got a new show. I know. What's it called? When is it on? With Ashley Walters.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:24 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:25 Burberry, of course. I said Burberry. Thank you. Bastards. Ashley Walters has written something. Is that what you're talking about? Was that me? The back of your throat. Oh, and Romeo Beckham. Wow.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:41 Didn't he— didn't Ashley Walters write the prison thing that was on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:47 No, he's—

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:50 On the BBC. He's in it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:52 No, he's, he's in this new though. Nocturne. Yeah, let me see it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:04 Oh God.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:04 But he's in it, isn't he? Yeah, release date October 30th, 2026. Thank you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:10 What's it called?

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:11 Nocturne. I don't think it is this. That bloke just don't stop, does he? Working. Stephen Graham, he is unbelievable.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:20 Doesn't stop, doesn't leave off.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:22 He does not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:23 Can you imagine the scripts coming in? I bet he hasn't got time to read 'em.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:26 He's it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:28 To be able to just, I'm gonna do what I wanna do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:31 Absolutely. Don't need all this. Unbelievable. It's a new thing, Elia.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:33 Ashley Walters, I believe, has written, directed it. Stephen Graham's in it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:37 Yes, I'm aware. I'm telling you. Oh. I told you about it. Oh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:43 Fantastic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:45 Ashley Walters and Stephen Graham. I know that was adolescence. I don't know, you know, but I saw something about him too. You are useless. I did see something about him.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:56 Hmm, good story.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:59 Yes, Nocturne may feature— thank you— his most unsettling performance yet. Stephen Graham stars as Jamie's dad with Ashley Walters as the detective leading something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:06 There you go, detective leading Unsure.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:11 Just want to ask, I just think it's a great subject and I want people to let us know, what is your favourite name of a business or a shop that you really like? For instance, I saw this. That's really hard on the spot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:28 How are we gonna just think of something? Well, you did yours. What?

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:30 'Cause you created it all those years ago.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:32 Oh yeah. Oh, happy days.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:34 That's all the shit I'm talking about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:36 No, that's too big. Happy days. Can't do that again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:38 Unbelievable Hair Salon. I just really like it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:43 Well, yeah, there's a, there's a girl. No, but Unbelievable Hair, she's, that's not her, is it? With loads of followers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:48 41.5K.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:51 Yeah, there's, she's like a very, very, very expert. She is an expert in her field. I agree.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:58 All right. But what I'm saying is, yeah, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:00 The play on words.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:01 Unbelievable. Like in Hartford, the Codfather. Yes. The fish shop. I like it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:06 What about Only Poles and Hoses? Hello. cleaner. That's excellent. He's around here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:12 Brilliant.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:13 That is a good one. And in the sort of signage. Yeah, very good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:16 I like that a lot. So please, 07788 201919, shops, businesses that make you laugh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:24 I'll tell you what I don't like, and I think it's around here, is Chish and Fips, like fish and chips. That's, that's icky.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:34 Yeah, that's awful. It's not funny at all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:39 There must be some others. Have you not got any? I can't. What do you mean you can't? I don't know. Like, what do you like? That is quite funny though, if you think about it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:53 What do you like? Oh, like, what do you like? Is that what it is? No. Is that what it is? Oh, I just fucked— fuck.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:14 They cook me pork.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:16 I know, I know they do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:27 I thought it was because what What do you like?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:29 No, I know that's probably what— Yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:31 I think it's a bit of everything.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:33 Is it a little amalgamation of the two?

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:35 Oh my God.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:36 What do you like? Yeah, yeah, that one. Never would have thought of that one. But yeah, I like it. I like that subject. That's why I like the subject. It brings joy to me. Oh dear.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:55 Yeah. Oh, yappy days. That didn't last very long. No, that was, that's a good one for dog walking business. It's very good. Oh, right. Yeah. Well, maybe come back. Maybe didn't need the oh, maybe just yappy days. Like, see, like in our heads we were going, oh. I know, but we didn't need to say, oh, hi, oh, yappy days. You know, just yappy days. It wasn't oh, yappy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:24 What a fucking punch!

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:30 How embarrassing!

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:32 You could have answered the phone. Oh yes, you answered the phone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:37 I didn't fucking stop. I just stuffed my penis on websites and email addresses for about 10 years.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:49 Oh, don't. Oh well, it is very good. Oh, what a shame that Ellie's dog walking business didn't work out.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:57 There's time. There's still time. Oh dear. I think you all would support me, as in my pod fans. I think they would all really come behind me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:04 Imagine they'd what, give you a million dogs to walk?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:07 Yeah, I think they would.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:08 I think they'd be rooting for me. They'd like post it and stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:11 You're not picking up dog shit, are you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:16 Oh dear. That is very random. No, but it'd be funny to see. Maybe I'll make it a franchise, see if someone wants to buy it. Oh, bloody hell.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:29 We do laugh, don't we?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:32 Oh, sorry, I keep smashing that mic. Oh yeah, we know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:34 I give up now. Don't even— I don't ask.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:37 Oh dear.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:39 Oh dear. Bubble Word Jam, quick update. What you want?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:42 Oh man. Are you sure you wanna know?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:43 No, because I've played it. Oh dear. 217.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:47 It's really— it's been really tough. Like, I'm having to Google all the words. 278. Look at her face, she's livid. What are you on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:55 278.

Natalie Cassidy 0:48:58 278. And I've caught up, I've caught up with Kat. She's on 277 as of about an hour ago.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:02 135. Yeah, see, I, I can't keep things up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:07 Some of the, it's just—

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:08 Oh, sorry.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:09 Oh, here she goes again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:11 Level 148.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:15 Oh, I'm, I'm close. Yeah, well, she ain't played it for a month.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:19 Yeah, I haven't played it for a month.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:20 I'm just still addicted to my other games. Do you know what it is though?

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:23 It's the time, isn't it? During the day. It's the time during the day. So I'm reading my book now for book club.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:29 Well, who's playing it during the day?

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:31 During the day, during the evening, whatever time I have spare, I'm reading at the moment. So I haven't got time to play that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:36 Good for you. How's your reading going? Non-existent. Perfect. I haven't got time to read, guys, please.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:41 All right. Earlier is no longer part of the book club.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:45 Thank you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:46 I don't think she's ever been a part of the book club.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:48 No, I have. I read, um— No, you didn't. You didn't. You actually had already read that book. Yes. This is why we did book club.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:53 That's right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:54 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:54 I dunno what you are talking about. You've read 1, 2, 3.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:59 Listen to 1.

Natalie Cassidy 0:49:59 That's true. Anyway, we're back on it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:02 We're back in the game.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:03 Excellent stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:04 What else has been going on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:05 A little gripe of mine. people that have very few followers, or even a lot of followers, it doesn't actually matter. When they post—

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:15 On life or?

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:16 So on Instagram.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:17 She's obsessed, obsessed with social media.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:19 Right, on Instagram. Be it 5 followers, 5,000, whatever it is. When someone posts up, hi guys, just to let you know, I'm gonna go a little bit quiet on here. I hope you don't mind, and I'll see you soon. I just need to have a little break on it. No one gives a fuck. Why are you telling everyone that you need a break?

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:41 Well, you're not his friend. You're not—

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:43 no, you're not gonna hear from much of me on here. And so what?

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:48 But what if, like, she posts quite— or he posts quite a lot and then is conscious that if they—

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:54 But your friends and your family will know that you're okay because you talk to them, don't you? Or maybe you text them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:50:59 She might think people might think she's dead or something. Or, but they're people that are messaging saying like, oh, you've been so quiet, where are you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:06 But I'm not talking about famous people.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:08 No, I know, I'm aware. We could write that on ours, to be honest. No one gives a shit, let's be honest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:14 Yeah, who cares? Oh, why do you think that people care about that? Because you, you think people are waiting for your posts? Yes. That's mad, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:29 But that's some people, that is what their lives are, just focused on what am I putting up.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:37 I did my first post in 6 months, I think, on Instagram. Not story, like actual post. I was like, oh wow, I've got a post.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:43 And listen, no, I sound like I'm having a go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:46 No, I know what you mean. No one— but no one really does care if you're gonna be off there for a couple of weeks.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:51 I am on there, I have to be. What was all the comments?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:53 What were the comments?

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:56 Don't think much, if I'm honest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:51:58 Apart from Natalie writing, no one gives a fuck.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:02 Just blows my mind still. I can't get over it. I can't change with the times of it. And I'm on it and I get work from it and I'm eternally grateful. I'll get the odd campaign and I have to do things, but I still don't understand. I mean, I'll probably stop getting any work from it because I do fuck all on there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:18 But I think I think as well, what you gotta remember is there's a lot of lonely people out there. So that's like an outlet to them, right? Yeah. That they feel like— Yes. They might have fake friends on there that like them, you know what I mean? It's that, it's just that— Gives them a purpose. Yeah, it gives them that sense of—

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:39 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's what it is.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:40 That's a nicer way of looking at it. That is good. No, no, I like that. I'll think about that now. That it gives people a bit of a purpose to do something.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:48 Yeah. I'm not, I mean, I'm not saying I think it's the right purpose in life to have.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:51 No. No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:52 But it's, everyone's got different, different things going on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:52:55 They have. But then I think what that does is unfortunately, instead of people going out and actually—

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:00 Meeting. Doing things and— Socialising.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:02 They're just thinking, I'm just gonna sit at home and do that. And that's—

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:06 No, it is.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:07 It's mad. It's a funny old world.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:08 I tell you what though, it does make you, again, I know that you laugh at me and all that, But when I— the reason I like going into museums or art galleries or libraries, it restores my faith a little bit. I come away thinking, oh, there are loads of people who are not on their phones, who are interested in the world, who are talking to each other, who want to find out things and discover things. And you can see them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:33 That probably have sat on their phones.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:35 They haven't got— so they probably haven't got social media. They probably don't even own a telly, if I'm honest. But what I'm saying is there are still a lot of people in the world that are very curious and haven't gone down the route of that, which makes me happy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:48 It's a generation thing as well, isn't it? No. No? Really?

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:52 No. They're not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:53 Definitely not.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:53 Yeah. Definitely youngsters. A lot of youngsters, I would say. I would say a lot that have fought away from it and have said, no, I don't wanna do that now. You can see it. You can see the curve.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:04 I think it's a healthier way of living, isn't it? Let's be honest.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:08 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:10 Fucking hell, you two know how to bring the tone down, don't you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:13 Anyway, back to y'all.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:14 What I like is the downs, the downs and the ups.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:17 It's like a rollercoaster. And what's your search page saying on your Instagram these days? Ah, she loves it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:22 Just 'cause I just looked at mine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:24 Can you tell me how to do it again? Sorry.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:25 Yeah. No, no, just your search. Just when you go to search.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:28 The magnifying glass?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:29 Yeah. Like what's on, what's coming up for you? 'Cause all I have is beige trainers, white and beige trainers. Just clothes, basically. Autumnal clothes. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:40 Um, I've got 400 Ricky Gervais videos.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:43 What do you put? Just the magnifying glass? Yeah, but like, what—

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:45 yeah, like, what's coming up for you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:46 Nail— nails. Lots of nail inspo.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:49 Mine is all— mine is all clothes for the autumn. Oh, that's nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:53 I've got, um, Liam Gallagher. What is that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:54 Adidas tracksuit. So I love Look at that little chequered Adidas.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:00 Oh, that's lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:01 I want that. What's that?

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:02 This is the problem. Do you want, do you want to know what's on it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:05 Go on then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:05 I've got Ricky Gervais 4 times. I've got something about being a Taurian. I've got something that's come up that says you're eating at the wrong time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:14 Perfect.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:15 11 signs you're becoming someone new.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:17 Some inspirational shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:20 Behaviours of people who handle stress well. What your sleeping position does.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:26 Right, so yours is a lot about sort of self-care and—

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:28 Self-care, and then Ricky Gervais and Liam Gallagher, basically.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:32 And who was, who was she playing the other day, like 100 times? James Bond. James Bond.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:37 Oh, that's annoying.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:38 What's yours, Meg?

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:39 Yeah, lots of nail stuff, really.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:41 Oh, really?

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:42 Some trainers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:43 Hmm, nice. I'm gonna have to get my Zodiac.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:48 Oh, some bed design trends, they look nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:50 I'm gonna have to get this, um, Adidas laces on here.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:54 Liam Gallagher.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:55 Oh, lovely, that lace. Oh, you're really turning into it, aren't you?

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:58 Yeah, I don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:59 I mean, I mean, mine is actually just New Balance trainers, children. Oh, look, Turtle Burgers. Maybe I could make them for James.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:07 Oh, fuck me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:08 Have you seen?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:08 No, don't even get me started on that shit.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:11 Oh, I see. Oh, he would really like that knife.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:15 He doesn't even— he doesn't like me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:16 No, that's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:17 That'd be a waste of time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:18 Sorry, you said Lacey popped up on your Instagram there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:21 She did, yes.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:22 Lovely Lacey Turner partnered with Vito.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:25 Woo! I'm so pleased about that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:27 I'm really pleased.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:28 Cannot wait to watch it on Saturday. Does it start on Saturday? No, it started last night. No, but I know, but I'm not interested in that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:34 Me too. I know what you mean.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:35 It's like, woo! We all know, it's fine. Just get on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:39 Yeah, but I, no, I'm gonna be honest. I was gonna lie and say I saw it. I haven't seen it properly yet. the launch show.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:46 Why was you gonna lie?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:47 Just because I wanna talk about the presenters, but they've had very good feedback.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:50 Have they?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:51 Yes. And I think everyone has said it's, you know, very, very good. And Emma Willis is—

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:55 Yeah. Meant to be really good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:56 Yeah. She's meant to be good. Claudia Winkleman put something, didn't she? One word. I can't remember what the word was.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:00 Perfect.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:01 Just something like, you've smashed it, you know?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:03 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:04 Well, she didn't say that 'cause that's 3 words. But anyway, I think she gave her the nod to say, Well done.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:12 I'm excited about it. Are the judges the same?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:15 Yes, I think so. I believe so.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:19 Who are they? Shirley Ballas. She's still one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:23 Yes, Shirley Ballas.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:24 I like her a lot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:25 Yeah. Craig Revel Horwood, who I absolutely love actually.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:28 Yeah, I love him as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:29 And Thundercat. Love 'em all. Yeah. And Scott Motsi.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:32 Great, great panel. It is a good panel.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:34 It is good. It's really good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:35 I'm not sure about the, the changes, if I'm honest, to the host, but whatever. I'll have to watch it and and see, because I can't— I've not given it a minute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:44 No, gotta give it a minute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:45 But I can't wait. Saturday night.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:49 What else is on? Oh, Hit List is back.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:50 Is it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:52 It's actually been back a few weeks.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:54 Oh no, I watched it and it went.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:56 No. Oh, maybe. Oh yeah, so it like wasn't on last week, but there's a few I've missed. Anyway, I'll watch that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:02 Do we think The Floor's coming back?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:05 Yeah, but that wasn't yet. That's The Floor's so good.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:09 Yeah, The Floor's good. Have you watched Alex?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:10 Nah. Alan Carr's Picture Slam.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:13 Oh yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:14 That's sick, that one. Really, really good, they are. Really easy watching.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:19 Can't beat a little game show.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:21 On a Saturday night. Can't beat it. Lights out watching, easy. What will we have, The Wheel soon?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:26 Ah, The Wheel.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:27 The Wheel will be back. Big Brother, guys. I just hope so.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:30 It's taking off. What is going on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:32 Is Jedward in it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:33 I thought I heard something about Jedward. I saw something. I'd really like to watch it. I know, I can't believe I haven't. It's meant to be too much controversy. But it's the time, innit, as well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:42 The time it takes. No, it's more just how, yeah. I mean, I watched The Bake Off last night, which has come back, 'cause I really love The Bake Off. I like watching it. It reminds me of Eliza being little. It's got so much nostalgia for me, the whole programme. So me and Joanie watched it last night. Nigella has started, so it's Nigella and Paul. It's excellent. Although, did have a little voice note that I will play regarding that subject.

Speaker U 0:59:08 Hi, Natalie, I hope you're well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:11 Just watched the Bake Off and I'm slightly concerned at how Nigella eats cake. It's, it's awkward to watch.

Speaker U 0:59:22 I feel awkward for her, but I'd just like to know whether you've seen it seen it, or even if the nieces have seen it, actually, to get your take on it. Um, and also apologies to Elle's Bells if your chair's squeaking. It might be on my fat ass that's caused that, so my apologies.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:39 Um, anyway, take it easy.

Speaker U 0:59:41 Catch you soon.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:42 Yeah, bye-bye. Is it Tim? Cheers, Timbo.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:44 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:45 Um, oh, I'd have to watch then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:46 I didn't— I'll tell you what, Tim, I didn't think it was that bad. I was waiting for it to be a lot worse.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:55 In what respect? Well, here you go.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:57 Well, because she's very—

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:58 A news article from 2 hours ago. Nigella Lawson makes debut but baffles fans with weird way she eats cake.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:06 Well, what, what do you mean? So it's on there. How's she eating?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:09 Because she is a bit— is it like sexualized? I thought— What she's eating?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:12 I thought it would be more sexualized because her programs— have you ever watched Nigella?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:17 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:17 They are a bit very much, you're all very sort of sexualized.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:20 I just don't think we need to do that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:22 But I don't feel like she, has been that bad. It wasn't.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:27 It's a family show. She should know.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:29 Well, they're all talking about it, so all the best.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:31 But what I was gonna say regarding it, hey, I love it. It was great for me. That kicks off the autumn as much as Strictly does for me, the music and sitting down. Poor Joni, she like matched it. I said it'd be off in a minute. Fuck me, the adverts.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:46 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:47 Oh my Christ, I'm not doing that again.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:49 Well, you shouldn't have started. You shouldn't have told her about it, and you should have What time is it on? Is it on every night?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:54 So no, Tuesdays.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:56 Oh, so 10 o'clock. Starts at 8. Yeah, well, record it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:59 10 o'clock. It wasn't, she fell asleep and I said, I paused it. I paused it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:04 8 till 10.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:04 It was until—

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:05 Well, maybe it's 'cause it was the first one.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:07 There's so many adverts annoying me.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:09 But the adverts every 7 minutes.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:12 Well, it's like when I'm watching Royal Family, there's a fucking advert in that. Yes. I recorded it. I've like got it on, You know, it's like on, I dunno, it's just available to me all the time. Why is there an advert? I don't want the advert. I'm not watching it live. Yeah, but at least you can forward it. I know. Still annoying though. Yeah, nah, of course.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:29 I know it starts at 8.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:33 It was probably just a longer episode. It was an hour and a half or whatever.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:36 Anyway, it was just a really long time. And yes, unfortunately I am gonna now watch it on 4OD or, you know, record it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:43 Or just record it and then watch it on Wednesday night.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:45 Yeah, we'll do, 'cause it's really long. I just really found, is it because we are not used to adverts anymore? No, of course we're not.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:51 No, we've got no patience for anything.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:53 Yeah, but like, I'm, there was so many, I feel like more than ever.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:58 That's probably why now. I remember watching like I'm a Celeb.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:01 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:01 I would always watch, start that half an hour later. Yeah. Because you genuine, you can watch.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:07 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:07 It's like an hour and 48 minutes. You still catch up. Or there's actually an hour and 20 worth of watching the programme.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:13 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:14 Yeah. I, I don't like an advert.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:16 I know. It's a shame, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:17 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:18 We're all too lazy and— And I'm new to them. I'm like, oh God, I can't bear the noise.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:21 It winds me up.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:22 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:22 But then I remember when I was younger, I loved adverts 'cause you'd see like what toys were coming out.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:26 That's right. And Joni doesn't mind the adverts now. She gets a bit annoyed when she's watching a film 'cause she can only watch Harry Potter at the moment on ITVX, and that's really annoying her. But she now does the advert game within the adverts. So she jumps off the sofa and she's in front of the telly doing the adverts.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:42 That's hilarious. And she's— Oh, well, at least she's enjoying it and enjoying it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:45 But yeah, no, I enjoyed it. And as far as Nigella's cake eating is concerned, I actually did not really notice much. She likes a big, big spoonful, but good on her. I think taste people that are tasting things should be having a good old go.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:59 Yeah, but I don't think that's the issue. I think it's how she's eating it, how it's entering her mouth.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:04 I think she's just getting it in.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:06 I don't think she's doing that somehow. And that's not based on the picture I've just seen. Yeah, exactly. It's all very like Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:13 Or maybe they've just got that as a screen, a screenshot of it, 'cause she's known for that. Let the woman just do the job.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:20 She was never gonna do it and people weren't gonna say anything.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:23 Why not? Just not.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:25 I've never, like, she's never been someone that I wanna watch Jamie Oliver, I wanna watch.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:30 I've never wanted to watch her. Is that funny?

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:32 It just doesn't, like Delia Smith I could watch. Oh yeah. I've never, not really bothered about her.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:37 There's a Mary Berry, I liked her kitchen stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:39 I can't wait. I can't wait to watch Jamie's Christmas.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:42 I know.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:43 Oh my God.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:45 Well, um, this week it's just started, hasn't it? His new programme.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:48 What's that?

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:49 Jamie Oliver Meals in Minutes, 20-minute meals.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:53 Oh yes, I love them.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:54 20-minute meals, it's great.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:56 I'm gonna watch that.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:56 Well, on Samsung, on the actual telly, you know when you turn it over sometimes and there's a load of channels up and you think, what's going on? I haven't got it on Netflix, I haven't got it on Sky yet.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:05 No, you should just watch it on shit telly. No, I just don't. Just a smart TV, babe.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:10 There's a Jamie Oliver channel.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:11 Oh, wow.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:14 On the smart telly.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:14 Yeah. I really love his shows, but the Christmas with— what season? And then the other one he does with Gennaro. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good, that one.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:22 It's very, very good. But Joanie really made me laugh, actually. She was like an old woman. You know, sometimes she says something, and she went, oh, I do. She said, I do. I love these cooking programmes, Mummy. She said, I really do. She went, the other morning I come down, she went, there was a Jamie Oliver thing on, obviously this channel I'm talking about. She went, I didn't even put on what I was gonna watch. She said, I watched him for 20 minutes. It's the way she said it. Oh, bless her.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:43 She is funny, isn't she?

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:44 Yeah, she's funny. Bless her, little funny old thing. Right, lovely jubbly. That was a nice little chat, that, wasn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:51 Very good. Little catch-up.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:53 Lovely jubbly. Let us know what you think. 07788 20 19 19 on the WhatsApp. Voice notes are most welcome, and we will speak to you very, very soon. See you later.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:05 See you. Doo doo doo.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:07 Bye now.