EP258: Nat’s Nieces #59 – having a dust up at a music festival

Natalie Cassidy 0:02:58 There is something quite noticeable happening with the moon right now, especially if you're someone who likes to tune into lunar cycles. Fucking shattered.

Speaker F 0:03:08 I feel like I've been run over.

Speaker G 0:03:11 I've been so tired. Did kind of put that down to Sunday evening. Easy weekend.

Speaker F 0:03:18 Well, I've still been putting mine down to Friday, doing 24 hours. Well, yeah, Friday, Sunday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:25 Message from Samantha. Thought of you this morning when I typed this into ChatGPT about the moon. I know I've used a huge amount of water asking this question, but I needed a quick answer as I feel so flat, it's unreal. And yes.

Speaker F 0:03:39 I need to remember to do stuff like this when I feel like this because I cannot put my finger on it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:44 That's what it is, isn't it?

Speaker F 0:03:45 I feel like I've got the, my shoulders feel so heavy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:03:48 You've got the weight of the world on your shoulders.

Speaker F 0:03:50 I have, I have. I feel flawed.

Speaker G 0:03:52 Yeah, I've been extremely tired. And actually, since I was at Mum's on last Thursday and I said, Mum, I'm— I can't move.

Speaker F 0:04:00 Yeah, I remember you saying that.

Speaker G 0:04:01 I feel exhausted. And there was no reason then.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:04 Absolutely drained. It's the moon. Full moon. Full moon now, this weekend. Tomorrow, actually. This goes out Thursday. Crazy timing. So Friday it goes. But we should all feel lighter and more energised by the 1st of September. Which is when?

Speaker G 0:04:19 Monday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:19 Monday.

Speaker F 0:04:19 Okay.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:20 So Sunday you're coming around for a roast, is that correct?

Speaker F 0:04:25 It is.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:25 I am so excited about doing my first roast. What meat? Whatever you want. Excellent.

Speaker G 0:04:32 Beef. Beef. I, when I tell you Sunday—

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:37 You're a fucking alcoholic.

Speaker G 0:04:40 I cooked The most amazing bit of steak.

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:46 Yeah.

Speaker G 0:04:47 Quite hammered.

Speaker F 0:04:49 Intoxicated.

Speaker G 0:04:50 It was a bone-in sirloin. How good was it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:04:55 It was really nice.

Speaker G 0:04:56 I mean, when I say like the most perfect pink in the middle, but no blood.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:01 And then she whacked some—

Speaker G 0:05:02 Like just how Nat liked it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:04 You did a chimichurri.

Speaker G 0:05:05 Chimichurri, which was beautiful. How nice is it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:08 Unbelievable.

Speaker G 0:05:08 Natalie in the morning was like, I had to brush my teeth for about 10 minutes 'cause it's like garlic. Garlic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:13 I woke up, I was like, ah.

Speaker G 0:05:15 It was, it was, Unreal.

Speaker F 0:05:16 Oh, it sounds good. It was excellent. Well done.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:19 It was very, very good. What was more excellent is I, I am unfortunately getting older and growing up, and I got to a point where I was like, oh, I'm woozy now. I felt tipsy. 6 pints of water later and woke up right as rain. Stopped drinking.

Speaker F 0:05:38 Wow.

Speaker G 0:05:38 Yeah, no, I didn't feel terrible, but I was like, come on, Joan, let's play Uno. I was so excited to play Uno, and then we got halfway through a game, she was like, She was like, I'm tired, I'm going to bed. So then we just carried on playing.

Natalie Cassidy 0:05:52 We did play Uno for a while.

Speaker F 0:05:53 I did think you sounded a bit tipsy in the video you sent me.

Speaker G 0:05:57 Yeah, we were. Well, Joni was before I came out. But yeah, no, that was, um, yeah, you've got to do beef really.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:04 Definitely.

Speaker F 0:06:05 Yes, we will.

Speaker G 0:06:06 Cauliflower cheese. If you're doing it, I think you've got to go in.

Speaker F 0:06:11 Yeah, we can do it.

Speaker G 0:06:12 Honey roast carrots with your lovely carrots.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:14 I can't wait to use those.

Speaker G 0:06:15 Why don't you do some parsnips next year?

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:18 I'd love to do some parsnips.

Speaker F 0:06:19 Oh, for dinner next year.

Speaker G 0:06:22 You know that date we're coming around next, next October? Yeah, I'd like to do a lot more food next year.

Speaker F 0:06:28 But you don't use parsnips a lot.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:30 I do in the winter. I eat more parsnips than potatoes.

Speaker F 0:06:34 But where are you keeping these?

Speaker G 0:06:37 Freeze them. Blanch them, freeze them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:38 Oh yeah, I'm gonna do that tonight with the carrots. That's my evening stew.

Speaker F 0:06:44 Well, no, but you've gotta keep the veg.

Speaker G 0:06:45 Well, no, but if you plant them later, as you've said, and you start picking them October, end of September, I think you'll be all right. It's good to me, like I know what I'm talking about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:06:54 Well, yeah, I'm not even sure when they get picked, but yes, I would like to do so.

Speaker F 0:06:58 I think that's why people have like greenhouses and—

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:02 Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get a greenhouse.

Speaker G 0:07:04 Where? To put where? I don't know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:06 I need—

Speaker G 0:07:06 Like she's gonna get a swimming pool this year, everyone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:08 No, but that's very different. The hottest summer.

Speaker G 0:07:10 We've had, and zero— lucky you didn't, because we haven't been here once for a sunny day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:07:16 When we say swimming pool, by the way, I did mean, you know, on poles.

Speaker G 0:07:20 It's like a big pool, paddling pool that stays up throughout the summer.

Speaker F 0:07:24 Yeah, that didn't happen. It didn't. No, you get in the greenhouse. Well, we've all been away with the aircon.

Speaker G 0:07:31 I mean, it's just, it's just gone very quick, hasn't it?

Speaker F 0:07:34 Flown.

Speaker G 0:07:36 But I do think—

Speaker F 0:07:37 Has it flown?

Speaker G 0:07:38 I think as well it's because, I know it's irrelevant for me because I don't have children at school, but I still feel the impact because I— But it's also because the weather's been nice, so it's very easy for people to just go to a park. Or I think when the weather's shit and you've been sat in all day, or you're thinking, I have to plan a day, it makes it go a bit slower. Yes. But people are just getting out.

Speaker F 0:08:02 And it has been— Because everyone— It's been busy. We have.

Speaker G 0:08:06 But I think, but everyone I speak to, speak to, like my friends, are like, it's gone quite quick, really. Because again, they just can get up and have a couple of hours at home and go to another park for a couple of hours, and that sort of breaks the day up. Whereas when it's pissing down with rain like it normally is, you're sort of sat inside thinking of things to do.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:24 I think it's different for me because this is really the first summer where I feel like I've been around properly, around.

Speaker G 0:08:29 Yeah, yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:30 So it feels long.

Speaker F 0:08:32 But you've had a lot of— really? Yeah. And you've had 2 holidays.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:35 Yeah, but I feel like it's gone on forever. Really? Yeah, it's been amazing.

Speaker F 0:08:39 I can't, oh, I can't believe it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:08:40 I'm now ready, ready for some routine, ready for the children to go back.

Speaker G 0:08:44 Me too. I know I've said it before, but fucking, I went to the park today, just kids everywhere. Yeah, it's summer holiday. I know, go back to school. Poor little James is like trying to jump on this thing and this big kid just like comes past. I'm like, I'm gonna fucking knock you out. I know you shouldn't, but it is annoying. No, I know, but it's just like, I'm like, just chill out a minute.

Speaker F 0:09:06 But you're gonna get your time back. Yeah, I know. Um, I know I sort of panicked, just, I was like, shit, I haven't paid for school swimming. Then I had to order towels, swimming hats. I haven't ordered their cardigans and their jumpers. Yeah, I did that yesterday. And their shoes and all that stuff.

Speaker G 0:09:24 I understand, but it is funny whenever you go into any shop now, it's like, whoa, stationery, bang in your face. Is it essential that every year you have to buy all new stationery? Yeah. Is it though, or is that—

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:38 Joanie's only got to have stationery from this year.

Speaker F 0:09:40 But like, yeah, I don't think mine need it, but I still buy them. Well, I don't really, not Ruby, but Alfie, I bought him a Spurs pencil case. Yeah, but that was a birthday present.

Speaker G 0:09:49 But I do feel like you get this thing of, oh, I should get them a new this and that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:09:53 But that's because it's in the shop, it's again, it's marketing.

Speaker F 0:09:57 And also their tastes do change. Yes. You know, they're into one thing, the next year they're not.

Speaker G 0:10:00 Yeah, but what do they need it for? Like you said, Joanie, does Joanie take a pencil case?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:04 She has done in the past, but she doesn't need one this year. She needs a case with things in it.

Speaker G 0:10:10 Does she? Yes. So it's— and she's going into Year 6? Correct. Yeah. So she hasn't had a need because they get their pens, pencils, rubbers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:17 She has a little case with a few bits in it, but I, I haven't done it every year.

Speaker G 0:10:21 No.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:22 I've done a new pencil case. She always has a new bag though.

Speaker F 0:10:24 Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:25 And I haven't done that yet.

Speaker F 0:10:26 See, I've done that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:27 Because it only, because it gets battered. It is battered.

Speaker F 0:10:30 See, Alfie's is in mint condition and actually he could still have his, but you just feel like, how can he go to school with the same bag?

Speaker G 0:10:37 No, he can.

Speaker F 0:10:38 He's got a Spurs one now.

Speaker G 0:10:40 Oh, so he can have a Spurs one? Yeah. What, he doesn't have to have a school one?

Speaker F 0:10:44 No, he had the book bag and even last year he had his Minecraft backpack.

Speaker G 0:10:48 Plus they don't have to have the school thing, you know that thing?

Speaker F 0:10:51 No, Ruby will. Ruby still will have that.

Speaker G 0:10:54 Why?

Speaker F 0:10:54 I dunno, I just do it in— For the little ones?

Natalie Cassidy 0:10:57 Yeah.

Speaker G 0:10:58 Oh, I thought they had to have the school one until like forever.

Speaker F 0:11:02 No, they try and they say in the younger years, 'cause there's not as much room in the classrooms, put it on the pegs. But I think as they go up, that all changes. So there's a bit more room. I mean, Alfie's got, he'll have a swimming bag, a school bag, a football bag. It's mad. PE bag. It's ridiculous. All the, yeah, just trying to remember all these things.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:20 All these different bits and pieces going on. Clean soles.

Speaker G 0:11:23 Yeah, wait till they're in secondary school and you need to make sure they've packed their books. 'Cause I do remember doing that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:28 Yeah. Well, now it's a laptop. There's only probably for Eliza maths and history, she has a book.

Speaker G 0:11:34 Is that in every school?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:36 Most schools, yeah. Well, they give them a laptop. Yeah.

Speaker G 0:11:40 Really?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:41 Yes.

Speaker G 0:11:42 Wow. Every school?

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:44 I don't— oh, fuck me. Well, not every, but most state schools.

Speaker F 0:11:49 I can't imagine.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:49 They do. They have— oh, they do it all on their phones or tablets.

Speaker F 0:11:52 Well, in state schools, they come all come home with a laptop. I don't believe that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:11:57 I don't know whether they have to buy it or— they do. It's all done.

Speaker G 0:12:01 What they don't know—

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:01 And Eliza, isn't it funny that the lesson she enjoys most, which she doesn't even realise it— Wow. Doesn't even realise it correlates, maths and history she loves, and she likes a book, she likes writing down. So I think that we're missing a trick there.

Speaker G 0:12:17 That is a bit mad. I get it for certain things, but— Can someone, listener, can you confirm that for us?

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:24 I'm not saying it's every school, but there are lots and lots and lots of schools, definitely around here, people I know, they do it all on their phone, homework on their phones, you know.

Speaker G 0:12:33 I don't like that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:33 Well, that's the world we're living in, honey.

Speaker G 0:12:36 Yeah, I do think that is. Oh dear. So what's the point of them learning to write? Well, it's a basic skill that you need to learn to write.

Speaker F 0:12:45 I know, but it's not—

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:46 You don't really need it anymore.

Speaker G 0:12:48 No, you don't. But also, if you need to write a birthday card and you don't know how to write. All right, Tone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:12:56 That's true.

Speaker G 0:12:57 No. All right, there's things. What? Give me one. Write an address on an envelope because you're sending something.

Speaker F 0:13:02 No. Well, you don't send— what did you send? What are you sending?

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:04 You're not sending anything. Guys, can you chill the fuck out?

Speaker G 0:13:07 There will be, there will be things that you need to write.

Speaker F 0:13:09 Give it to me.

Speaker G 0:13:10 You fill out a form when you're in, in a waiting room for something.

Speaker F 0:13:14 Do it all on iPads.

Speaker G 0:13:15 Wow. No, I've done some paper ones.

Speaker F 0:13:18 They need to get iPads then.

Speaker G 0:13:19 No, I've done, well, when I went for my MRI, I had, it was all on paper. It weren't an iPad.

Speaker F 0:13:24 That's, you're just ticking a few boxes though.

Speaker G 0:13:26 If you dunno how to write, you dunno how to do a test. No, you know how to do that. No, no, no.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:30 Listen, I'm with you. It is a skill that I want people to write letters. I love writing. You know, I've got a diary. I'm not, I hate the computer.

Speaker G 0:13:38 Yeah, I do. See, if I'm writing a list, I like to, I do, I do do it on my phone if, 'cause I think of it when I'm out. But I like to, I do like to write. I still write on my calendar.

Speaker F 0:13:48 Yeah, I still can't do the phone calendar.

Speaker G 0:13:49 No, I'm on the phone.

Natalie Cassidy 0:13:51 Are you? Calendar?

Speaker G 0:13:53 Yeah, because I've bought them before. I just, I write in it after the event just to fill it up.

Speaker F 0:13:57 No, I like to have the whole month in front of me. But again, when I'm busy, different in time.

Speaker G 0:14:03 I think I will need that when it's a lot of school things, or— but for me, yeah, I'd use my phone. But writing, come on, there must be some more things I don't know. I think it's birthday cards. I know you say Moon Pig, but majority of the time—

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:20 People don't really send cards anymore.

Speaker F 0:14:21 It's an anomaly.

Speaker G 0:14:23 What, you don't— people don't buy a card for their nephew?

Speaker F 0:14:26 Yeah, but I'm saying like, but I know that's basic, right? I'm not saying you've gotta learn to write. What I'm saying, that's basic.

Speaker G 0:14:32 No, but that—

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:33 Yeah, but you're 4 and 5, you are. Yeah, but what are you— Basic writing, aren't you?

Speaker G 0:14:36 What are you talking about? You have to— you, if no one taught you how to do that, you wouldn't know how to do it. No, I'm not saying that.

Speaker F 0:14:40 I'm saying, of course they don't need to know the basics, but this whole back in the day, you're, your writing having to be perfect. You could only get pen when you used to write like this. Those days—

Speaker G 0:14:51 I'm so sorry, guys.

Speaker F 0:14:53 Those days are long gone, aren't they?

Natalie Cassidy 0:14:54 What is that?

Speaker F 0:14:55 My alarm. Christmas cards, people don't— I don't send them anymore.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:00 No.

Speaker F 0:15:00 Don't bother.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:01 What do you do?

Speaker F 0:15:02 4 months today.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:03 4 months today.

Speaker F 0:15:05 Well, not when this comes out, but since we're recording on the 25th. Almost there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:12 Exciting. No, I'm not. It's too quick.

Speaker G 0:15:15 It's too soon. We've got ages.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:17 And you know what, actually, we keep— we're talking about going back to school and all that. We've still got a few days. I've already got a Christmas present.

Speaker F 0:15:23 So how about that one?

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:24 Have you? No, I haven't.

Speaker G 0:15:25 Who for?

Speaker F 0:15:26 Not telling.

Speaker G 0:15:27 Why?

Speaker F 0:15:28 Because.

Speaker G 0:15:30 Boring.

Speaker F 0:15:31 Got my first Christmas present.

Speaker G 0:15:32 I know it is a bit boring, but— and it feels like it's a long way away, but it isn't. Can we believe that James is going to be 2?

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:39 I can't believe it.

Speaker G 0:15:40 In like 6 weeks' time. Yeah, it's crazy. It's really sad when you think about being pregnant. I'd like to turn him 7 now. Why?

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:51 I want him to stay there now.

Speaker G 0:15:52 I know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:15:52 Yeah, I'd like him to stay there.

Speaker F 0:15:55 That feels, that feels like— It's nice. It's a nice age. 3's nice, 4's nice. I mean, 7 is freaky. Oh, 7 is—

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:03 He's so cute. Yeah, he's so cute. I feel like he's getting so grown up.

Speaker F 0:16:08 He is so grown up. It's like, yeah, both of them. I feel like Alfie was younger at 5 than what Ruby is at 3. Definitely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:18 But that's always the case.

Speaker F 0:16:19 I get where you're saying earlier, but when I think of them when they're 2, I mean, it feels like forever ago. 7.

Speaker G 0:16:26 No, I think as well it's just because when we were doing the pod and I was pregnant, I don't know, I sort of have that Yeah, and it's just mad that we're there already.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:36 Time flies. It's an absolute shocker.

Speaker F 0:16:39 And yeah, they're going into year 3 and year 1.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:41 I have got the girls tomorrow for a sleepover.

Speaker F 0:16:45 You do?

Speaker G 0:16:46 Oh, excellent. So are we doing something?

Speaker F 0:16:47 No. Oh, was you gonna let me know?

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:49 Yeah, so sorry, just remembered. I'll talk to you about that. But yes, that— I'm looking forward to that as well.

Speaker F 0:16:55 Well, I had Amelia sleep over on Saturday.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:57 Yes.

Speaker F 0:16:58 And they topped and tailed.

Natalie Cassidy 0:16:59 Were they as good as gold? Good as gold.

Speaker F 0:17:01 I mean, we went to bed quite late.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:03 Where are they then to sleep? With Joni. No, all the best.

Speaker F 0:17:08 They'll be fine. Oh yeah, we had a bit of a late night because I wanted to watch a film. We watched like 20 minutes and they were like falling asleep.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:15 So yeah, I won't be getting in bed early. They can just have a nice late night with me tomorrow.

Speaker F 0:17:19 And that means when they get into bed, they're gone and they will sleep. No, they were good as gold.

Speaker G 0:17:23 Um, oh nice. Is Joni excited?

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:26 Yes.

Speaker F 0:17:26 Yeah, it's cute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:27 They will be nice. I think I'm gonna take them for a bit of dinner. Lovely. Where can I take them?

Speaker G 0:17:31 Anywhere, babe.

Natalie Cassidy 0:17:34 I might come. Yeah, please do.

Speaker G 0:17:36 I'll let you know.

Natalie Cassidy 0:20:50 I need to talk to you both. I want to apologise for how much I have a go at you about being on your phone playing games, because I've found a game. It's so good. What is it? Bubble World Jam. How good is it? How long have you been playing it?

Speaker G 0:21:11 Cat is— I've got Cat hooked.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:14 Oh, it's so good. It's unbelievable. But I haven't—

Speaker G 0:21:17 I'm currently playing. What level are you on?

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:20 I can't believe it.

Speaker F 0:21:21 I haven't played it as much as probably you two because I still am obsessed with the other game.

Speaker G 0:21:25 No, but I'm, I'm not playing.

Speaker F 0:21:27 I'm only on level 16.

Speaker G 0:21:29 Oh, boring.

Speaker F 0:21:31 What are you on? 104.

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:34 What? My whole holiday, Maria, I was obsessed with it.

Speaker F 0:21:37 Wow, welcome to our world.

Speaker G 0:21:39 I'm only on level— sorry, I'm in some sort of competition. I'm only level 33 because I'm currently obsessed with bus traffic fever. So I have to sort of give most of my time to that. That's— do you know what one that is where you put the car in?

Natalie Cassidy 0:21:55 I had a man on the aeroplane and I didn't know. So I'm sat on the aeroplane and this man was, I'd say, late 50s, early 60s. For the whole duration of the 2-hour and 50-minute flight, he was playing that game.

Speaker G 0:22:09 Is that why you downloaded it?

Speaker F 0:22:10 What, do you not need Wi-Fi?

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:11 No, my first thing.

Speaker G 0:22:12 Oh, my one.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:13 'Cause Joni went, that's the game Ellie plays. Do you not need internet?

Speaker F 0:22:16 Mine you do, which is annoying.

Speaker G 0:22:19 Yeah, no, I don't think you do. The ads annoy me though. Every time I get the popup to pay for the no ads, I think, oh, I really wanna do it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:27 5 moves left.

Speaker F 0:22:28 But that's how I got into that, 'cause that game that we paid all the adverts off. Yeah, all the adverts. And you're like, oh, I don't like that.

Speaker G 0:22:33 And you wanna see the adverts you get on these. There's one where it's like a picture.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:36 No.

Speaker G 0:22:37 And you've gotta press the colour bubbles. What? And you've gotta press the—

Speaker F 0:22:41 No.

Speaker G 0:22:42 Or the arrow one. Did you ever get that one?

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:44 No, I'll tell you what I got on holiday, which was very deeply disturbing.

Speaker G 0:22:48 Oh, the kid.

Natalie Cassidy 0:22:49 With the mum. What? And she's got burnt eyes and they're— Yeah, there are some weird ones. And the mum walks in with the baby and there's a bra that falls down and the dad's there. And so she leaves the dad and then it's freezing cold. Oh, all of those.

Speaker G 0:22:59 And it's like, pick your decision. And she's like— Or the old couple sitting the tent.

Speaker F 0:23:03 Do you put the fire in? Do you close the window? What do you do?

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:06 Yeah, there's some of them ones.

Speaker F 0:23:08 I like the one with the, um, like Bunsen burner bottles where you have to like pour the—

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:13 I have seen that, a test tube thing.

Speaker G 0:23:16 Yeah. Or there's a wall one. It's like the wall and you have to click and it's like a corn. We need to get a fuck all that, I have to be honest. No, but the worst thing is, is I'm on the ads and I'm playing the ads Yeah, same. And then before I know it, you've got— And then you've downloaded it. Oh, you're black. Yeah. And then you've downloaded it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:35 No, for me, this is unbelievable. There are words I don't know. I have to come off and I have to look them up. What about when the words are split and you have to then—

Speaker F 0:23:42 Yeah, that's all right.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:43 That's good.

Speaker F 0:23:44 Um, but how was your holiday?

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:46 It was lovely. We had a lovely time.

Speaker F 0:23:48 Did you play Bubble Word Jam the whole time?

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:49 Yes, I did. It was lovely. Really, really nice. Lovely weather.

Speaker F 0:23:54 And you went for quite a long time.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:55 9 days.

Speaker F 0:23:56 Long enough.

Natalie Cassidy 0:23:57 Could have done more days.

Speaker F 0:23:58 Really? Yeah. Wow. But you said you were ready to come home.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:02 I was ready to come home, but I still think you could do that, those 2 travel days.

Speaker G 0:24:06 Yeah, you could do like 9 days there. How long's the flight?

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:09 2 hours 50 minutes.

Speaker F 0:24:10 Oh, nothing. Oh no.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:12 Nothing at all.

Speaker G 0:24:12 No, but still, what time are you getting there? By the time you get from the— you're losing that day.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:17 Well, we were 5 minutes from the airport.

Speaker F 0:24:18 Oh no.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:19 Which was unbelievable. And again, I know, interest in that. I wonder what people would think about the flight path. 'Cause obviously the planes are very low, but it doesn't bother me.

Speaker F 0:24:28 Does it not?

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:28 Does not bother.

Speaker G 0:24:29 What are you talking about?

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:30 In terms of being near the airport.

Speaker F 0:24:31 Being in my villa. Constant aeroplanes going overhead.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:34 But it wasn't, 'cause it's such a small airport. There's probably, I don't know, 12 flights a day or something.

Speaker G 0:24:38 I wouldn't eat, I don't even think.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:40 But I love the fact, I love being near the airport. Yeah. I love that.

Speaker F 0:24:44 That was like Santorini, literally 10 minutes away.

Speaker G 0:24:47 It is lovely being close. Game changer.

Speaker F 0:24:48 When you get there and you're like, oh, an hour and a half.

Speaker G 0:24:51 It's a lot. Yeah, no, not for me.

Natalie Cassidy 0:24:53 I like being close. It doesn't bother me.

Speaker G 0:24:55 No, I think we're— well, it's about 45, but you're gonna have that when you're going somewhere. It's different.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:01 Yeah, absolutely. But no, thoroughly enjoyed it. And there is a lovely little Patreon holiday special, 'cause me and Mark did a few little recordings. Well done. So that'll be out next week.

Speaker F 0:25:12 We never do that, do we?

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:14 No.

Speaker F 0:25:14 We have— It's very different though when it's carpool. Yeah, it's true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:17 We get on there. Who's got time? Something else I wanted to talk to you about. Hmm. Does it mean I'm unhappy at home? But on a holiday, I am up at the crack of dawn. Can't wait to get up like a child. So excited.

Speaker F 0:25:30 Yeah, but it's a different, different environment. It's a whole different day ahead. You're going to sit round the pool.

Natalie Cassidy 0:25:38 Yeah.

Speaker F 0:25:38 You wanna, you wanna make the most of your day.

Speaker G 0:25:40 It's not like you're getting up to do a school run, do washing, do a food shop.

Speaker F 0:25:43 But in saying that, in Santorini, some mornings, I was waking up at like 9, half 9, breakfast in bed, got up at like half 10. So it was quite nice actually to do the leisurely thing and not feel like you have to rush around or make the most of the sun, or it was just, yeah. So I think, yeah, it's both.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:01 It's just something I love about everyone being asleep on holiday and get up.

Speaker F 0:26:05 And doing your makeup in your little minute.

Speaker G 0:26:07 Make a coffee.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:07 But even that, I don't drink coffee at home. I was getting up using the coffee machine. It's funny, isn't it? Like completely different.

Speaker G 0:26:13 Sitting, just having 10 minutes of peace with a coffee. Oh, there's nothing better.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:18 All you need though is a fag.

Speaker G 0:26:20 Yeah, that would just be like tick.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:22 I did nearly buy some, but I don't really enjoy it.

Speaker G 0:26:26 No, you won't enjoy it. You did it in Italy and you were like, bleh.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:29 I know.

Speaker G 0:26:30 When? In Italy. Dom's wedding. Dom's wedding. We did some vokes and it was absolutely horrendous.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:36 But yeah, thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Speaker F 0:26:38 We went to, um, All Points East on Friday.

Speaker G 0:26:41 So good.

Speaker F 0:26:42 We had such a good time, didn't we?

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:44 Oh, the festival. Sorry. Yeah. Good times.

Speaker G 0:26:46 There was a dust warning. Dust, dust. And the whole, every time we said about it, everyone was going, dust. Anybody knew dust? There was a dust warning.

Natalie Cassidy 0:26:54 Right. And what did that mean?

Speaker G 0:26:56 It meant that sort of we couldn't breathe by the end of the night. The next morning, Kate still can't speak. Her whole voice is gone. Felt like I'd smoked about 60,000 Vogues in a day. Just sort of dust coming out of every orifice. Nose, ears.

Speaker F 0:27:14 I got home, I had dust resting on my cheekbone. I looked like I'd been—

Speaker G 0:27:18 Throughout the day, we'd sort of look, look at someone and go, oh, your tash, just literally black. Black. I first noticed it, I had a bit of a runny nose. I went to the toilet, I went like that, and I was like, oh my God, what is this? And then I looked at my white vest top, honestly. So it was— I was wearing high-waisted trousers, unlike now.

Speaker F 0:27:39 Oh yeah, stand up a minute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:27:42 Ellie is sat With a vest top and knickers on?

Speaker G 0:27:46 I'm sweating and I was gonna put these shorts on, but now I'm not keeping them, so I just decided to go commando. No, I have got knickers on.

Speaker F 0:27:53 Is that lockdown already?

Speaker G 0:27:55 Yeah. So I had the high-waisted shorts on, so half of my top was white, brand new white vest top, pristine. The other half, black.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:05 Wow.

Speaker F 0:28:06 Did you throw it away?

Speaker G 0:28:07 It's all bubbled, really bad quality. I'm sorry.

Speaker F 0:28:10 Where's it from?

Speaker G 0:28:13 Next. Next. £20 though for a vest top. When I'm talking, this is a Zara one, maybe £14. Really, I wasn't— I'm not happy. All of them have done it, all bobbled, worn them once.

Speaker F 0:28:24 We should take them back. They're quite good. No, they're very good.

Speaker G 0:28:26 No, they've said to take them in. On that, I'm obsessed with buying vest tops. All I do everywhere I go is just buy a vest top. I think it's because I've not worn a vest top for about approximately 12 years. Now I can sort of wear them. I just buy them every time I see one. I went in Tesco the other day, I was like, that's lovely, bought one. M&S, oh, lovely, bought one. Zara, vest top.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:48 It's interesting because you made me sort of go on to the vest tops.

Speaker G 0:28:52 What do you mean? Oh, wearing it because I don't like my arms. No, but— At all. I think you just need to get over it. But now, no, I've got over it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:28:58 I'm wearing the vest top. Just wear the vest top.

Speaker G 0:29:00 Don't worry about it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:01 Sweating actually.

Speaker G 0:29:01 I'm so hot.

Speaker F 0:29:02 It's so warm in here. I'll take this off. Sorry.

Speaker G 0:29:05 Yeah, all points, Deece. Yeah. Then there was on TikTok, we saw there was an actual dust warning out, and that's why people wearing masks or scarves around their face. We were a bit like, what's going on here? Why has everyone got scarves around their face?

Speaker F 0:29:17 We did 25,000 steps.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:18 Lovely.

Speaker F 0:29:19 Which I was absolutely buzzing about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:21 Very good.

Speaker F 0:29:21 We managed to see all the acts we wanted to see. I went alone ranger to one of them.

Speaker G 0:29:27 And guys, if you ever get the opportunity to go and see DJ Ezed perform live—

Speaker F 0:29:32 Yeah, Ilya's fallen in love.

Speaker G 0:29:34 It was unreal. And he is so cool. I'm obsessed.

Speaker F 0:29:40 We saw some artists that Elia was shocked because she didn't think that that was— well, it's not what they was expecting. Yeah, we were— it was funny. But we got to see our all-time fave, Tems. Yes, we saw Loose Ends.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:53 Yeah, it's one of my favourite songs.

Speaker G 0:29:54 Yeah, we did FaceTime Eliza. She loved every second of it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:29:58 Fantastic.

Speaker F 0:29:58 Um, but yeah, funny time. Tems was And then you messaged earlier in the group being like, do you reckon Dave will come on? I was like, absolutely. And these are like, no.

Speaker G 0:30:09 And then he came out. Oh, it was— yeah, it was really good.

Speaker F 0:30:13 What about when we went to buy a bottle of wine?

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:17 Ah, what happened?

Speaker G 0:30:18 So we booked VIP.

Speaker F 0:30:20 Always us.

Speaker G 0:30:20 They had little wine and champagne carts, so we were like buzzing, queue up, go there. My friend Victoria, I'm like, what are you doing? What's taking so— you're there, you're at the front. I've gone for a wee, I've gone back. They haven't got a bottle opener. Sorry. Oh, shut up. Serious. How much was the Provence rosé? It was quite expensive. It was like 60 quid.

Speaker F 0:30:42 65 quid. And this lady—

Speaker G 0:30:44 But obviously they're all, all the drinks are so much more in these places, aren't they? Of course.

Speaker F 0:30:48 I mean, the price of these drinks, some of it, I couldn't get over it.

Speaker G 0:30:52 No corkscrew.

Natalie Cassidy 0:30:54 Are they gonna sell the wine?

Speaker G 0:30:55 No, they were, they were searching.

Speaker F 0:30:57 The lady in front had ordered it, paid for it, so she just got the bottle standing there and Ilya's eyes getting warm your wine? She went, I've just told them to get me a knife and a fork and I'll sort it out. Yeah, we're wetting ourselves. She was like—

Speaker G 0:31:08 I said, I think you need to tell them that you'll just take a bottle of the champagne instead because they're taking a long time. Anyway, then a few hours later we thought, yeah, we'll have another wine. No, they found—

Speaker F 0:31:18 they come.

Speaker G 0:31:18 Oh, they found it.

Speaker F 0:31:19 Yeah, one, one corkscrew found. Don't know where, how, what, but—

Speaker G 0:31:23 And then we go and get another Provence. We've run out. Bearing in mind, I know it's the— but I did not see one other person drinking this row. It's not like every other person is drinking it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:31:35 Do we feel like the wine stand was maybe a first try? Because—

Speaker F 0:31:40 No, I, I went before a few years ago and it was there, although I did get champagne.

Speaker G 0:31:44 But all right, it's a fucking bully for you. Um, run out of Provence.

Speaker G 0:31:51 I mean, how many bottles could you have? They must not have— Kate, yeah, on the specials as well. Shambles. It was a shambles. And then sort of, don't know, there was a little situation in front of us where somebody ordered a glass of Prosecco and she was pouring— can't speak— Laurent-Perrier.

Speaker G 0:32:10 So I don't really know what was going on. And then the girl was going, no, just all— because then we were like, it doesn't— you couldn't get Laurent-Perrier by the glass, right? So then the girl behind her was like, but I'm confused, it's not how much. She went, just ask for the Prosecco. So she's buying the Prosecco and pouring.

Speaker G 0:32:26 Champagne. I don't know what's going on.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:28 That's where the staff don't know what they're doing and they're young. It was crazy.

Speaker G 0:32:31 They're so young.

Speaker F 0:32:32 Yeah. Well, not even that.

Speaker G 0:32:33 I just think it was the first day of the festival, was it?

Speaker F 0:32:36 Yeah.

Speaker G 0:32:36 Yeah. So maybe new staff that haven't done it before. Maybe. Yeah. It was just crazy.

Speaker F 0:32:41 But no, it was fun. But yeah, a lot of walking and a lot of dance.

Speaker G 0:32:44 Fucking lot of walking. I, I nearly wore my little mesh shoes. Oh my God. I was so tired. I have to tell you, I can't hear you.

Natalie Cassidy 0:32:52 The trainer's covered in dust.

Speaker F 0:32:53 Oh yeah, yeah, my glasses are like—

Speaker G 0:32:55 I couldn't even see at one point because I've got no nails on at the moment, which is dreadful, but I'm waiting for holiday. I— my fingernails look like I was like a 12-year-old boy that had been playing in the garden.

Speaker F 0:33:06 I feel like Alfie.

Speaker G 0:33:07 Yeah, like just all, all black. I had to go home and get a scrubbing brush and scrub them.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:13 Gosh.

Speaker G 0:33:13 It was— yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:14 And was that in—

Speaker G 0:33:16 because of the drought?

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:19 Yeah, sorry.

Speaker F 0:33:20 See roundabouts, fields.

Speaker G 0:33:22 Cracking roundabout outside the front of it though. Go on, what was you gonna say? Because of what? The volume of people stamp like a stampede.

Natalie Cassidy 0:33:31 I understand.

Speaker F 0:33:31 Yeah, it was like being here in Lion King when Mufasa dies. Oh, that was a really weird though.

Speaker G 0:33:49 I know the actual words.

Speaker F 0:33:53 Is that actually how it is?

Speaker G 0:33:56 No, I did it in my drama. We actually got the lyrics.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:00 I mean, can you listen to this please?

Speaker J 0:34:02 Hi Natalie, so, um, this is just off the back of listening to your latest podcast with the nieces about watering stuff on a roundabout. So I've just literally driven past a man from the council watering the flowers on the roundabout with a hosepipe. No way, flowers? And he was from the council, which just made me really laugh. So yeah, there wasn't any grass on it, but there was a nice flower bed which he was happily watering. Anyway, thanks for the laughs. It's Helen here calling from Hampshire. See you later. Bye. Thanks, Helen.

Speaker G 0:34:44 But you just said it's flowers though.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:45 I'm not talking about flowers.

Speaker G 0:34:47 Okay, but they're still being fucking watered with a hosepipe. It's the— it's the—

Speaker F 0:34:51 is that not okay?

Speaker K 0:34:52 What is she talking about?

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:54 Why do you have hosepipe bans?

Speaker F 0:34:55 It doesn't matter. Yeah, but maybe because they're like community flowers.

Natalie Cassidy 0:34:58 Maybe.

Speaker F 0:35:00 I'll open my back gate.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:01 I fucking bet you will. There's no need for that sort of language.

Speaker F 0:35:08 That's called— that's called colonic irrigation. Mine can be a community garden.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:14 Oh, I had some friends here yesterday and that was said, but there was a little joke about a back door.

Speaker F 0:35:20 Oh, it was excellent.

Speaker G 0:35:21 She really set herself up for it.

Speaker F 0:35:24 Um, yeah, but yeah, the problem is with this, that is gonna cost money. If the flowers die, they will all be redone.

Speaker G 0:35:32 I understand.

Speaker F 0:35:33 I'm not about flowers, I'm about the grass.

Speaker G 0:35:35 Well, it's all fucked. I don't really get— I don't know what you're talking about. Look at Victoria Park. They're not watering that, are they? But apparently that will grow back. Of course it will. What are you talking about? It's in the winter.

Speaker F 0:35:47 No, I understand. I do understand. But my grass—

Speaker G 0:35:50 The seed is all there.

Speaker F 0:35:51 That ain't happening to my grass.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:53 It might do.

Speaker F 0:35:53 It won't. As my mum said, it was fucked before this.

Natalie Cassidy 0:35:56 Fair enough. That's fair enough.

Speaker G 0:35:58 Yeah, it's true. It's always been a bit fucked.

Speaker F 0:35:59 But why is that? So why is that not growing back?

Speaker G 0:36:02 Well, because sometimes there will be like, we have areas that are patchy. Jack will have to seed it. But overall, Fascinating.

Speaker F 0:36:11 And it's a bit like— it is like watching Attenborough, isn't it? All dries out, then it all comes up back.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:18 Yeah, it is.

Speaker G 0:36:21 It's like having a flower that flowers once a year and then it dies and it comes back, and then it comes back.

Speaker F 0:36:27 Fantastic.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:30 But mad that they're using a hosepipe.

Speaker F 0:36:32 No, I understand, but I'm telling you now, if I left my garden That it's not— that's not happening.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:38 Can I just say, I'm looking at the monitor.

Speaker F 0:36:40 Why is that happening there? Why is it—

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:41 oh, it's just good in case it goes off and that. I need to do that for professionalism. But may I just say, I am quite brown for me.

Speaker G 0:36:49 No, I mean, I forgot how translucent you really are. So yeah.

Speaker F 0:36:54 No, you look well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:36:55 Thank you. That's what the lady in Marks and Spencer's said. You look well. You been away? I said, yes, I have.

Speaker F 0:37:01 Why are you red though on your chest? What do you mean?

Speaker G 0:37:05 Yeah, red. Always red.

Speaker F 0:37:06 And then your cheeks, you may be just flushed. It's very warm in here. I'm sweating, actually. Yeah, no, you do look well. I said you look well. Even Eliza looked well brown. Mark looked brown.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:16 He goes brown though, doesn't he?

Speaker G 0:37:17 And yeah, Joni, they've got cracking colour.

Speaker F 0:37:19 Yeah, no, when you walked in on Sunday, I was like, oh yeah, that's nice.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:23 Thank you, thank you. I need to go and get them done. No, they've lasted quite a long while.

Speaker G 0:37:27 Done well.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:28 I have. Talking about our nails, by the way. Um, a couple of people talking about the school holidays, but this one I loved. Someone just sent a message, Nico. He said, end of school holidays means a trip to Australia. 3 weeks out there for my son's wedding. School can fuck itself. The words of my 14-year-old son. There you go.

Speaker G 0:37:51 Her son's wedding in Australia.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:54 Yeah.

Speaker F 0:37:55 So what does that mean? What? I'm confused.

Speaker G 0:37:58 Well, not the 14-year-old.

Natalie Cassidy 0:37:58 No, so what she's saying, people are going back to school, everyone, oh, we're getting prepared. They're off. No, I don't think that's what she's asking.

Speaker G 0:38:06 She's asking the son situation.

Speaker F 0:38:07 No. So what, so they're taking the son out of school is what we're saying?

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:11 Yeah, for the son's wedding. So obviously there's a valid—

Speaker G 0:38:15 Really? I would imagine so. There's a valid reason, I think.

Speaker F 0:38:19 That's cracking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:20 But good luck to them.

Speaker F 0:38:21 Oh, I don't know. It makes me feel a bit lucky, that. I have to say— I couldn't do it myself.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:28 I have to say—

Speaker G 0:38:29 You would if you had a— I wouldn't. What, so if you had someone in Australia?

Speaker F 0:38:33 I'm too mingy, Elia. I couldn't do that for 3 weeks at the start of the new school term.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:37 I genuinely could now if I had children of your age, and I wish I did it more. I didn't take them out for a day.

Speaker F 0:38:43 I know, I do the odd day here and there.

Natalie Cassidy 0:38:45 I didn't do a day.

Speaker G 0:38:47 No, but also there are some situations she's not gonna miss her son's wedding.

Speaker F 0:38:50 No, I understand that, and good luck to him. I'm just saying I would do it. that would give me the heebie-jeebies. When I get their school report and I see 98%, oh, that makes me sweat. I don't like that. I like 100%. That's what I'm there for. Don't like it.

Speaker G 0:39:03 I don't think it's that deep.

Speaker F 0:39:05 Well, no, it's not, but I'm just saying that's how it makes me feel.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:07 Also, I think going around— Don't like it.

Speaker G 0:39:10 Yeah, the travelling, what they— The travelling. Experience.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:13 The experiences you can see.

Speaker F 0:39:14 No, I get it, I get it. But also— And as a family—

Speaker G 0:39:17 What about everyone else that adheres to the rules?

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:19 No, but I'm just saying, for 6 weeks we have these times and you're going on holiday or you're spending time with your kids. And, and then we're just all like sheep and we go, we're going back now, 2nd of September. And everyone goes back and we don't see our children. 'Cause I just find the whole concept—

Speaker G 0:39:37 I think you should just let people make their own choices.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:39 Yeah.

Speaker G 0:39:40 I don't think you should be— have rules or be— But you have to. No, you don't. You do, 'cause some people take the piss. That's true. And also— But that's their own children. No, I know, but also some children need to be in the system. So there needs to be rules.

Natalie Cassidy 0:39:53 Yeah. And then you have the other end of the spectrum where people can't get their children to school and it's awful for them. This time of year is horrendous for them.

Speaker F 0:40:03 Because, look, there's awful— you're never going to please everyone. No. But there has to be a system because, yeah, otherwise if it was a free-for-all—

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:11 No, I know, I'm sure. But it does just sometimes I think, oh, if I did get a job in Ireland Then I should be able to.

Speaker F 0:40:20 Yeah, but you can, you can do it. You just pay, you have to pay the penalty.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:23 Yeah, and just say, sorry, I'm moving over there and they're going to be homeschooled for a bit.

Speaker F 0:40:27 Yeah, but I think that's different. I mean, it's different. We're talking about taking them out to homeschool. We're talking about taking them out on 2-week, 3-week holidays.

Natalie Cassidy 0:40:35 No, but if I had a job that was, say, 3 months in Ireland, and I wanted to— There are things around that.

Speaker F 0:40:40 I'm sure there's loads of people that have to travel to work and their kids will be homeschooled or go to that school and that school.

Speaker G 0:40:47 Yeah, I mean, I've got a friend who is basically living between here and another country, and she's got the school here. Yeah, the school in the— and then obviously the other school she's paying for because that's the way it works. But she's got her place for her son in England, which is mad.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:01 That's mind-blowing.

Speaker G 0:41:03 They've kept it open, so when, when he's here, he'll go— he goes to that school.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:06 Yeah, that's really good. Very good. Oh, it's interesting though. I just think all the time that we spend together I know that you have to learn.

Speaker F 0:41:15 Well, same as working. It's the same as then. You've got to go and get a fucking full-time job.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:19 That's what I mean.

Speaker G 0:41:20 No, but you're— well, but you're earning money to live.

Natalie Cassidy 0:41:23 I know, but again, education—

Speaker F 0:41:25 you won't get the job if you don't get the education. It all goes hand in hand. Not necessarily. Well, no, you do. Of course it is necessarily. You're talking about learning to write earlier. Yeah, it's all the same thing.

Speaker G 0:41:34 No, but not necessarily. The education doesn't mean—

Speaker F 0:41:37 It does. It makes you all— it makes you well-rounded. You like to— we all like to know things about things. as many things as possible. It's quite nice.

Speaker G 0:41:45 Yeah, but you can learn that by not— it's only because we know school. We know you get to an age, you go to school. There are some people that would homeschool or do other, and you're learning in a different way. It's just a different way of learning, that's all.

Speaker F 0:41:59 Yeah, no, I get that.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:01 Lovely Harry, who listens to the pod, sent us a message. He said, so you, Els, and RoRo was in my dream last night.

Speaker G 0:42:08 Oh, cracking.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:09 I remember being at your house and also at a meeting sort of thing. I can't remember the synopsis, but you was all in it. How weird are dreams? I can remember waking up and remembering it all, and now it's gone. Maybe something to discuss, how strange dreams can be.

Speaker F 0:42:24 Oh, how old? You need to try and remember. You've started.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:28 You're a dreamer, aren't you?

Speaker F 0:42:29 I'm a massive dreamer. Yeah. And I'm the same. I wake up and I can remember it like I'm living it again, and then it just goes. You should write them down. But some of them I feel a bit, I dunno, I'd rather just forget. I have some weird dreams. Maybe we should do that though. Maybe we could do a little seg.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:45 Definitely a segment on dreams.

Speaker G 0:42:47 Yeah, write some down.

Speaker F 0:42:49 Well, no, when you wake up, write it down on your iPhone, in your notes.

Speaker G 0:42:53 I'll write it down on my notepad.

Speaker F 0:42:57 Then we can discuss it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:42:59 I think dreams is a really good one. Really good one.

Speaker F 0:43:02 I dream every night without fail.

Speaker G 0:43:04 What, that you remember? Do you?

Speaker F 0:43:06 Oh, I don't know.

Speaker G 0:43:07 I don't. I can't tell you the last dream I had that I remembered.

Speaker F 0:43:12 Yeah, every night.

Speaker G 0:43:13 And mine, usually there's only 2. I'll save it, won't do it now. Let's have a listen to this a minute.

Natalie Cassidy 0:43:19 Oh my gosh, Nat, how funny. I'm coming. She's doing bath time. Um, Jake's shouting, come on, Jess. I was just talking to my friend because basically I'm gonna be singing and doing my first gig down at Loco Latte in Spellbrook, like Bishop Stortford.

Speaker L 0:43:35 And, uh, anyway, it turns out she's related to the— basically, long story short, my friend's related to one of the girls that— who owns the Loco Latte.

Speaker K 0:43:43 Anyway, and then she goes, oh, and on that note, she goes, I'm going to South Mill in October, my friend's on a podcast. I was like, oh my God! I was like, hang on a minute, I went, so am I! So it turns out, long story short, what a small world, she is friends with RoRo.

Speaker L 0:43:59 What a small world! Best friends. And I was like, oh my God, this is so funny. Yeah, small world basically. It was just funny that 2 of them— I think I might be psychic.

Speaker M 0:44:07 It made me laugh. I thought I've got to tell you.

Speaker L 0:44:10 You might know her as well. Michelle Cruz, her name is. Oh no, Michelle's got a different name actually to the girls.

Speaker N 0:44:15 Her little girl is Ella Cruz.

Speaker F 0:44:17 Brilliant.

Speaker L 0:44:18 And Gary, her partner, is Gary Cruz.

Speaker F 0:44:20 So Michelle Cruz, the real thing, isn't it? It is Michelle Cruz, and they are married, and she's my best friend. a school mum, I believe.

Speaker G 0:44:31 Oh, right, okay.

Speaker F 0:44:31 So they're coming to the Stortford show.

Speaker G 0:44:34 Wow.

Speaker F 0:44:34 Michelle was like, I needed someone to go.

Speaker G 0:44:36 That is one of our lovely listeners, Jess, who always messages in, and she is family with Steve, called Dream. Oh, stop it. Yes, this is the— I think the daughter-in-law. Oh, really? Small world. Small world.

Natalie Cassidy 0:44:50 Very, very small.

Speaker G 0:44:51 And her and Michelle are friends from the school?

Speaker F 0:44:53 Yeah, from the school. I'm guessing Ella, which is Brilliant. He's Alfie's age. Yeah. Gosh, that is mental.

Speaker G 0:44:59 Until bath time's agony.

Speaker F 0:45:01 Oh, I shower now.

Speaker G 0:45:05 No, I'm not on the shower.

Speaker F 0:45:06 Oh no, you're too young.

Speaker G 0:45:07 No, sometimes I like it because I'm like, that kills half hour, let's get up and do it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:12 But sometimes I'm like, oh, it can be the pits.

Speaker G 0:45:15 Well, also because I'm at that— I'm not saying I would ever leave, but there's— you get to an age where you can sort of nip in and out the room. I'm at the stage where I need to be in there.

Speaker F 0:45:24 Oh yes.

Speaker G 0:45:25 Like a hawk.

Speaker F 0:45:26 Yes.

Speaker G 0:45:26 So I'm confined to that space and it's sweating and I'm getting splashed and now there's water everywhere.

Speaker F 0:45:32 Yeah. And I, um, I shower now.

Speaker G 0:45:36 Do you?

Speaker F 0:45:36 Shower them down.

Speaker G 0:45:37 Oh, they don't like a bath. That makes me sad.

Speaker F 0:45:40 Well, they will have a bath, but we just don't have time, especially now, I think, because we're having a bit late at night. She just wanna get them washed and get them ready for bed.

Speaker G 0:45:48 I mean, they're having a wash and that's the main thing. Yeah.

Natalie Cassidy 0:45:51 That's sort of better than what I do.

Speaker O 0:45:52 Hi Nat, it's Joanne Hitchin. Well, usually in Hitchin'. Today, a little glass of rosé on the balcony in Kos, if you don't mind. Stunning. But I wanted to say, so I'm on holiday having a lovely time, and, um, but every time I get in the pool, all I can think about is RoRo weeing in the pool.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:12 And I'm literally looking, looking around the pool at all the people in there thinking, you just done a wee in this pool.

Speaker G 0:46:18 I know, I was gonna say.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:20 It often happens to me, stuff I hear on the pod, and then we go about in normal And think, oh God, like when I'm cooking and I think I just cannot eat from the tomato tube. I can't do it. Yeah, so anyway, I just thought I'd let you know that that's what I've been thinking about on my lovely holiday. Yeah, it kind of ruined swimming pools for me, RoRo, not gonna lie to you.

Speaker F 0:46:40 Sorry about that.

Speaker P 0:46:40 Obviously, you know, people do it, but I mean, you think, do they really do it? You think kids or whatever.

Speaker O 0:46:45 But anyway, I'm gonna stop. Much love to all of you. Can't wait to catch up on some podcasts. 'Cause with a 9-year-old on holiday, I've obviously not been able to listen to anything. I'm sending you all lots of love from sunny Kos.

Speaker Q 0:46:57 Bye.

Speaker F 0:46:57 Oh, lovely.

Natalie Cassidy 0:46:58 Ruining people's holidays.

Speaker F 0:47:00 Sorry, babes. And if they say they don't do it, they're fucking lying.

Speaker G 0:47:03 My friend today said that her daughter was in a swimming lesson and she said, mummy, I need to get out and have a wee. And I thought, wow, that is—

Speaker F 0:47:10 If I think kids, that is their natural—

Speaker G 0:47:14 I'd be like, no. Well, crack on. Yeah. Get on with it. Get out, get all wet, all soggy, swimming costume down. I was impressed.

Speaker F 0:47:21 I remember saying that to Ruby before, and then she stood up and started weeing.

Speaker G 0:47:24 I said, no, you sit down.

Speaker F 0:47:26 You don't stand up.

Speaker G 0:47:27 You just move around. In fact, you do it whilst moving.

Speaker F 0:47:32 Swim and wee.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:34 Oh my God.

Speaker G 0:47:36 Oh, it's unbelievable stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 0:47:38 We are away in Montenegro at the moment on our family summer holiday. For extra bonus material, and especially our holiday special, Go to Patreon, have a little listen, sign up. It's not a lot, a couple of cups of coffee a month. There's a lovely special of us being on holiday. Cheers all.

Speaker S 0:51:03 Oh girls, I am just, uh, listening to today's pod and I feel you on this fucking plane stuff. So just flew back on Monday from Portugal, a little girls trip, and, um, I had some hand luggage that was too big, so they charged me €70 around the fucking blasted to have a 3-hour delay on the plane. So you think, so it's okay for a 3-hour delay and then you want to charge me fucking €70 for my big bag?

Speaker T 0:51:33 Oh my God, I was raging.

Speaker S 0:51:36 Not only was it late at night after a girls trip, so I was pretty fucking battered anyway, they then want to charge me that. Oh, honestly, absolutely fuming. So yeah, they all do take the fucking piss.

Speaker U 0:51:50 That's so funny.

Speaker S 0:51:53 Wow, sorry, that was very, very bad language, but as you can tell, still raging, and that just brought it all back. So, uh, happy Thursday. Sorry girls, me again, just got to the end of the pod. Um, Maria, question for you. As you were just in Santorini, what did you think of the people queuing to have photos in certain areas?

Speaker S 0:52:16 Now Don't get me wrong, I got photos of those areas, but I skipped the queue because I didn't want to be in the actual picture. I just wanted to take a picture of the scenery. I literally seen a couple of people in these queues as people are queuing, and these people are having full-on photo shoots and taking about 20 minutes to take one picture. What is that about? One, it's rude, everybody else is waiting.

Speaker S 0:52:47 And 2, who do you think you are? But yeah, I am with, uh, earlier who said just go and enjoy yourself. What is— what about all of these pictures? Don't get me wrong, I'd love a holiday picture, but enjoy yourself because that's what it's about.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:05 You— when are you ever going to look back on all these pictures and all these videos that you spent hours on doing?

Speaker G 0:53:09 So true.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:10 Honestly. Blows my mind.

Speaker G 0:53:12 That is actually crazy queuing.

Speaker F 0:53:16 I didn't see it. Oh really? So there was a couple—

Speaker G 0:53:20 Maybe where you were, you sort of got those views at all points. Yeah, that's what I meant. So maybe if it's a different area.

Speaker F 0:53:26 There was a couple of spots we did bypass and there were crowds of people, and you might— they might all be at the front of the thing to get the photo. But again, I just leant over and took a photo. I didn't didn't want to do that. But what I had seen on social media, and I was a little bit nervous about that, the hordes of people, didn't really see it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:48 Well, that's good.

Speaker F 0:53:49 So yeah, I don't know if I bypassed it or just didn't go to those spots.

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:52 That is why I have to tell you, I— it blow— it blew my mind on holiday.

Speaker F 0:53:58 What?

Natalie Cassidy 0:53:59 In the amount of places. So we went to Budva Old Town, beautiful, very, very picturesque. There were people getting out tripods, couples, tripods, timering it, doing that.

Speaker F 0:54:11 People love it though. People love photos. What are you doing?

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:14 And like you said, how often are you looking at— No, I—

Speaker F 0:54:16 People love photos. No, I'm sorry. No, but there's love in photos. You just, yeah, you take a little quick photo. Well, no, but you're never, you might never be there again.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:24 But it's a fucking tripod.

Speaker G 0:54:25 Right, but people love it now. Take a photo of the scenery. They know you were there when they took the photo. They want to be in the photo.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:30 But then there was a little boy who obviously did not care, doing a full-on photo shoot with his mum. And I have to say, the mum obviously, like, took care of herself, if you want to say that. Obviously he's quite a lot of work done.

Speaker G 0:54:47 And yeah, just all to get the best photo to post on Instagram. That's all it is. It's not memories. But they were having a meal.

Natalie Cassidy 0:54:54 No, they were doing it for Instagram, definitely.

Speaker G 0:54:57 But again, you did take a photo, it's natural. You take a couple and then you get on with it. You're I'm not standing there 20 minutes having a photo shoot.

Speaker F 0:55:04 I know, I don't get it. I don't understand any of it.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:08 All of the pictures. And then Mark went up some steps. I was like, I'm not going up there, it's too hot. Him and Joni went up and he came down. He said, I, I'm sweating. He said, there is a woman laying, there's a tripod on her own, and she's laying on a ledge where there's a 100-foot drop. Perfect. So you're risking your life to get a shot of her by the mountains or whatever. He said, I can't believe what I've just seen.

Speaker G 0:55:34 But it's everywhere you go. It's the same as us going to that festival on Friday.

Speaker F 0:55:38 Don't get me wrong.

Speaker G 0:55:39 We, we got one— sorry, was that my voice? We took like one selfie, maybe. Like, we barely took any photos.

Natalie Cassidy 0:55:49 No.

Speaker F 0:55:49 And there are people there just posing all day long. Yeah, it's wherever you go. Festival, it's, you know, you're trying to walk somewhere and people are having photo shoots. It's like we talk about all the time, isn't it?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:03 But it is like being— I just think enjoy.

Speaker G 0:56:05 It's like us on Friday, we barely had a photo. I took— I looked at my phone, one video is me holding it down here where I've gone to do a video and forgotten because I'm having such a good time. But I know I had a good time.

Speaker G 0:56:18 I don't need— That's right. I took a few videos for my friend who loves Thames, so I did that, so I've got those, but I'm never going to look back at them. I did the other day. It was excellent. But what I'm— only because I put it on Instagram, but I don't— I'm not gonna look back at them.

Speaker G 0:56:32 I remember taking fucking videos of fireworks at Oceans and Mel going, what, what are you doing? Have I ever looked at the fireworks ever again?

Natalie Cassidy 0:56:40 Yeah, the fireworks displays, people taking pictures.

Speaker G 0:56:43 It's for Instagram. It isn't to keep. I've never taken a photo of a firework.

Speaker F 0:56:48 But even like— but then sometimes if I'm looking at stuff on social media, like, of the festival, and I'm rewatching some videos, I'm like, oh, it's amazing. Those people didn't take that. I wouldn't get— I know, but you wouldn't.

Speaker G 0:56:59 That's because you've just been. In like a month's time, you won't be interested.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:04 Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker G 0:57:06 The only thing I like looking at photos of is my son.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:09 I thought you were gonna say myself.

Speaker G 0:57:10 But I like, you know, the photos we've got of like him 5 days old. They're the things.

Speaker F 0:57:18 But even that now, so like I did a post for Alfie But again, he's not even on social media. I'm doing it for myself. I put a post up celebrating my 7 years. I like that. But again, I'm like, there's so many photos. But what? I'm not going back in the archives to get photos when he's younger.

Speaker G 0:57:35 And you feel that pressure. No, that's why you're 40. If I thought— I said to you, Maria, I've got— you did?

Speaker F 0:57:43 No, didn't get one.

Speaker G 0:57:44 This is rude. Oh my God, fucking blowing up balloons for your birthday. Fucking threading through fucking photos. Well, I'll do one for you. Oh yes, sorry. Yes, Maria, we were quite busy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:55 We were busy.

Speaker G 0:57:56 And again, it's the pressure then. That's what I mean.

Natalie Cassidy 0:57:58 Yeah, no, there's no telling you.

Speaker G 0:57:59 Finding photos. And bearing in mind I did a whole photo banner thing. Yes. So I'd already scoured through all the photos. Don't worry, I'll do you a belated one of all of them photos. You— I'll do a little thing, a little reel. Um, it's too much. It is. Yeah, too much to think about. For Joni's birthday, I don't post.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:18 I can't, I can't. I can't be doing all that.

Speaker G 0:58:20 The pressure of thinking, oh, it's so-and-so's birthday, I've gotta find a photo now.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:24 I've never done that, so I don't do it anymore.

Speaker G 0:58:27 It's too, like Alfie's birthday, I would normally, but it's just, it's too much.

Speaker F 0:58:30 You trying to do that for your godson though?

Speaker G 0:58:32 But who for? He can't see it. No, he can't. It's not for him.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:35 He's not interested.

Speaker F 0:58:36 No, no, it's crazy.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:37 Hello. Oh my God, I'm catching up by the pool on my holes in Croatia and getting so many funny looks, laughing madly to you lot. Don't get me started on having to tag your own luggage and not getting a snack on BA. than watching other passengers arrive with 85 bags when yours has had to be checked in. Madness.

Natalie Cassidy 0:58:55 I haven't messaged for a while, I've been having a tough time with my daughter, but on the days when there's not been many smiles, you have all kept me going and given me a proper giggle. Thank you. I'm with you on roundabouts, they are buggered. It's been raining at home while we've been here, and I keep thinking about my grass, and now I'm worrying about roundabouts too. It'll look like Kew Gardens when I get home.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:14 Maybe not. Love you all. Loving Patreon, and so glad Maria's had a great time celebrating 40. Although I think she needs to go longer. I was 50 last year, started in March and went on to October.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:25 She's a lightweight. Em in Yule.

Speaker G 0:59:27 Oh, thanks, Em. Don't worry, Em, I'm still going, girl. There's still a couple little things in the bag. And the brunch, we are definitely celebrating even though these two don't want to.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:39 Can I just say, the brunch, we've only got a really, really limited amount of tickets. Like a handful. A handful. 6, about 6. So if you wanna come—

Speaker G 0:59:53 6, 6, 6.

Natalie Cassidy 0:59:54 Sound like James.

Speaker G 0:59:55 4, 6, 6, 6. Well, unless we put out a little post, then by today it may be even less.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:03 So get yourselves on there. Come on now.

Speaker G 1:00:05 Thank you everyone who's bought a ticket.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:07 Oh, it's gonna be such fun. It's gonna come around so quick.

Speaker G 1:00:10 Are we gonna get drunk?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:11 drunk. I won't be.

Speaker G 1:00:13 Are we gonna get drunk? What do you mean you won't be? No, I shall get a bit tipsy. Yeah, I mean, what happens in Hertford House stays in Hertford House. Does a bear shit in the woods? I don't know, does it? Yeah, it does. Where else is it gonna shit?

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:27 Do you remember that joke?

Speaker G 1:00:29 Yeah, it's like about the Pope. No, no, not about the Pope. Oh, and I never got it. Oh, about the, the monk. No. Does a matchbox? No, but a tin can. What? Yeah, does a matchbox? No, but a tin can.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:47 I don't get it.

Speaker G 1:00:49 Does a matchbox? No, but a tin can. Why can a tin do it? Yeah, when the match doesn't. It's just a joke.

Natalie Cassidy 1:00:58 No, but it's not funny. It was in my joke book and I never got it.

Speaker G 1:01:03 But the tin— Does a matchbox? box and it's a tin can. Oh, so it's just playing on words. It's got nothing to do with— Jeez, that's a great joke.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:15 The monk—

Speaker G 1:01:17 in Tuscany, the kids loved my jokes, didn't they? Go on, give us one. What's brown and sticky? Oh, stick. It's only because you've heard it, guys. You wouldn't have known that. No, I had some really good ones. What's a woman with, um, bacon, eggs, and beans on her head called?

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:33 Cath. One of my favourites.

Speaker G 1:01:36 Yeah. What's a man called with a spade on his head?

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:38 Doug.

Speaker G 1:01:39 What's a man called without a spade on his head? Douglas. Okay, I think that means the poddy's over, guys.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:51 I think we've done it right.

Speaker G 1:01:52 All right, well, um, I feel like we have not been together for ages. Anything? Oh my God.

Natalie Cassidy 1:01:59 What's wrong?

Speaker G 1:01:59 Guess what I'm watching? Go on. What am I watching?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:02 Rivals.

Speaker G 1:02:03 No. I don't know, it's all quick. It's like, what you watching? What am I— Guess what I'm watching? Here we go. I'm obsessed. What's that? I'm obsessed. What is it? Oh no.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:15 It's great, isn't it?

Speaker G 1:02:16 It's a comedy with Pamela. I didn't know she was in it. She plays the mum. Isn't she a Scouse though in real life?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:24 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker G 1:02:25 Yeah. Um, the guy, Ponce— No, she's not. Ponce.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:30 Tom Basden.

Speaker G 1:02:31 After Life. Again, this fucking bloke. Oh my God, I love it so much. He's created it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:37 I love it so much. I'm so pleased. What is it, funny?

Speaker G 1:02:40 Oh, it's a comedy. So it's funny, but it's just light-hearted. But how about the dad? I can't— sorry, you're saying Alison Steadman's Oh, she is? Okay, she's 79.

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:51 Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker G 1:02:52 It is so fun. It's like really—

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:56 but I love the mum, you know. She got a BAFTA for that.

Speaker G 1:02:58 Did she?

Natalie Cassidy 1:02:59 She won Best Comedy Performance, which I'm so proud of.

Speaker G 1:03:02 And how many seasons, episodes? Like 5 or something. No, but they're short. And I just watched the one where she meets the Italian man. Am I ruining it for me?

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:10 It's brilliant.

Speaker G 1:03:10 It's not ruining it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:11 It's not, it's just great.

Speaker G 1:03:12 It's just really easy. Really, some of the jokes are just so ridiculous, but it's the sort of shit we'd come out with. But how about when he—

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:19 and how about the, the, um, the girlfriend? Whereabouts are you?

Speaker G 1:03:24 I'm at— they— she's just about to—

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:27 Oh, fine. Yeah, so is she— that she's had the affair?

Speaker G 1:03:30 Yeah, yeah. Are you fucking shitting me? But it's funny though. And that's not fair on the listeners. Well, they should have watched it. It's old.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:38 Very, very old.

Speaker G 1:03:39 Oh, is it? Yeah, well, there's 5 series.

Natalie Cassidy 1:03:41 That is not many people knowing. It's just really weird.

Speaker G 1:03:43 Have you watched Olivia Atwood, Price to Perfection? Yeah, I had to turn it off the other day with the whole stretching of the legs. How mad was that? What was it? My surgeon was on it, everyone. Really? Yeah. Who? Did the eyebrow lift, Dr. Riaz. Um, the man was making himself like 10 inches longer.

Speaker F 1:04:01 So they break—

Speaker G 1:04:01 Not in his private parts, in his legs. They break the legs.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:05 Yep.

Speaker G 1:04:05 And then they— Oh no, it was— That's disgusting.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:09 And they want to be taller. Yes.

Speaker G 1:04:11 But then what we were saying is, but then you're gonna have really long legs. And but yeah, but some people do have long legs and shorter torsos. Just that was a killer.

Speaker F 1:04:21 But there was one guy that went from like 4 foot— what was it, 4 foot something—

Speaker G 1:04:25 to like 5 foot 10. Yeah, I mean, but that is life-changing in many aspects.

Speaker F 1:04:32 Maybe you should get that done.

Speaker G 1:04:33 I'm all right, thanks. I'm happy being short. 5 foot 1 and a bit.

Speaker F 1:04:37 And they do the whole like turkey thing. So yeah, like, I— and again, maybe I'm naive, but I didn't realise, which I'll be up for this, people, um, that people get free stuff.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:48 Sorry?

Speaker G 1:04:49 They'll do all these cosmetic surgery things for free just so you promote it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:04:54 Yeah, they do.

Speaker G 1:04:57 Yeah, but why are you sounding like you're shocked? I don't know, I just didn't think that was a thing.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:03 Are you joking?

Speaker G 1:05:05 No, I know, really.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:06 Do you know how many messages I've had?

Speaker G 1:05:09 Have you?

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:09 It's Turkey.

Speaker G 1:05:11 Stop it, Maria, please. Are you— do you live under a rock? No, Turkey. Yeah, I guess in Turkey. I know it's mad. I'll do it. Things here, they do it with like teeth. Oh no, all of them do it loads.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:25 So good. Um, it's not good, I'm joking.

Speaker G 1:05:29 But no, it's good, watch. And the other thing, guys, I'm obsessed. But I must say, I wouldn't— the turkey thing pains cash. No, no thank you. Please watch Secret Lives of Gypsy Wives. Oh, I need to. Oh, I think that—

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:41 I think I'll enjoy that.

Speaker G 1:05:42 In fact, we— I reckon we can get Truly Preach on. Please, can we? No, but she is excellent.

Natalie Cassidy 1:05:50 Is she?

Speaker G 1:05:50 Her mum Tina. No, I'm obsessed.

Speaker F 1:05:53 Where do I watch that?

Speaker G 1:05:53 Pearly Girl, the sister. I love them. It's on Channel 4. It is a great watch. They are excellent. They're lovely. Oh, they're just brilliant. I love them.

Speaker F 1:06:03 Okay, I need to watch that.

Speaker G 1:06:04 What's her name? Truly Precious. Truly Precious.

Speaker F 1:06:06 I watch— I'm— I've just— I'm caught up on Love at First Sight.

Speaker G 1:06:10 Yeah, never. Not for me. And I've got EastEnders to watch from last night and tonight.

Speaker F 1:06:14 So sad.

Speaker G 1:06:16 Why? What? No, don't tell me, actually. Don't ruin it.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:19 She's not gonna die, is she, Denise?

Speaker F 1:06:21 I don't think so, but she's doing an amazing job. Her and, um—

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:25 She's an incredible actress. Her and—

Speaker F 1:06:27 oh my God, what's his name in real life?

Speaker G 1:06:31 Wow.

Speaker F 1:06:31 Oh my God, Jack.

Speaker G 1:06:32 Who plays Jack? Scott.

Speaker F 1:06:33 Scott. Sorry, Scott. Brilliant. Really good stuff.

Speaker G 1:06:35 But the whole— I've just, you know, the whole Grey thing's happening. They tried to steal the baby.

Speaker F 1:06:39 Yeah, that was a bit boring towards the end. But this— and I do love the whole Max and Priya.

Speaker G 1:06:45 Priya, she's obviously pregnant, isn't she? She's been chundering.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:49 Oh yeah.

Speaker G 1:06:51 Um, sorry guys, if you haven't caught up, we've just ruined it for you.

Natalie Cassidy 1:06:54 But, um, Eliza started from July today. She said, I've got to catch up for Christmas.

Speaker F 1:06:58 Oh my God. I mean, but no, Denise, Yeah, she is. Yeah, it's really sad. Really, yeah, beautifully done.

Speaker G 1:07:05 Very, very sad. Are you watching anything? Have you actually sat and watched any telly since you've been home?

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:10 Uh, no. Uh, last night I put the telly on, the Sky box wasn't working. I spent an hour and 45 minutes on Bubble World Jam, and then Mark did the telly and I fell asleep.

Speaker G 1:07:19 And I've got a book to read.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:23 You have?

Speaker G 1:07:24 What?

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:25 Tom Allen's Common Decency. It's a lovely fiction. Oh, am I not in the book club? I would love you to be in the book club.

Speaker G 1:07:30 Wow. I mean, when was the last time you read the book. No, you've said I have to be in it. I would like to do it. I would like to do it. I won't be reading it. I haven't got time.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:37 However, you are going on holiday, so you could do the next one.

Speaker G 1:07:39 With a toddler.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:41 That's true.

Speaker G 1:07:41 She ain't reading. I'd love to say I'd get the opportunity to read a book. Have a lovely holiday. Thank you. Have a lovely time. See you very soon. Yeah, excellent. So good. Not gonna see anyone.

Natalie Cassidy 1:07:52 That's rude. So rude.

Speaker F 1:07:54 I get it though. I do get it.

Speaker G 1:07:56 I just want a bit of peace. It's lovely. Sit there obviously with my child.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:01 And your partner.

Speaker G 1:08:02 And my partner. But no, well, I'm hoping— well, no, he was just as bad as James, to be fair, they were me busting my balls.

Speaker F 1:08:08 Oh, I've got your Arrow word at home, by the way.

Speaker G 1:08:11 Oh yeah, I'll take that seeing as you can't find them anywhere. So we were saying goodbye approximately 8 minutes ago. See you Sunday.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:18 See you Sunday for our roasty. And see you maybe tomorrow. Possibly.

Speaker V 1:08:23 See you when you're older.

Speaker G 1:08:25 Bye, everyone. See you later.

Natalie Cassidy 1:08:26 Love you both.